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Not D/A, just flicked open. Notice that it's also a lefty, as Cruise is left handed.
Michael Mann (director of Collateral) is a stickler for realism when it comes to weapons and "tools of the trade", and how the actors use them. He figured that a professional killer would have a quality knife, and a Sebenza is the highest quality you can get. See also Miami Vice. Sonny Crockett's (Colin Farrell] personal handgun is a SVI Tiki, discontiuned and very rare, worth several thousand dollars. Not some cheap generic movie prop.
David Mamet likes his knives too. Many of his films feature knives:
In House of Games, Lindsay Crouse steals Joe Mantegna's "lucky pocket knife".
In The Spanish Prisoner Campbell Scott is framed for killing Ricky Jay with his Boy Scout knife.
In The Heist Danny DeVito whips out a Benchmade 9100 at one point.
In Spartan (mentioned previously) Val Kilmer's personal knife is a custom Severtech automatic.
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Saw the movie RED last night (pretty awesome BTW). In it a Russian guy has an auto (maybe a protech? not really sure) that he uses a couple of times
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i think i would agree. that is a fine piece of work(both the movie and the knife).The one that started my obsession was Case's V-42 Combat Knife in the movie "The Devil's Brigade" (1968).
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It doesn't look like either to me, at least not a model I'm familiar with.
Dude needs to trim his nails. The ones he has left anyway...
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I disagree, its definitely opens automatically in the scene where he opens it in a car. Looks like it opens automatically in the scene in the club too. It is left handed though.
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If you slow it down a lot (.25x), you can see that it's flicked. Not hard to do with a Sebenza (have you ever handled one?). The only automatic Sebenza conversions are/were done by Butch Valloton, and they have a button in the middle of the handle. It's harder to see in the car, since the knife is facing the other direction, but no part of his hand is near where the button would be. And in the club it's obvious his hand is nowhere near where the button would be. Most of the frames are blurry from motion, but If you slow it down enough, there's a frame or 2 where you can clearly see that it's his thumb opening the blade with the thumb stud.
Trust me, it's not an auto.
Not all the Valloton conversions used a button, some have a sliding scale release. Just because his thumb isn't where it might have to be on the models you know about has no bearing on the knife in question. Couldn't it be a custom made specifically for the movie? I also slowed both scenes down and looked at them frame by frame and there was no frame in either where he was using the thumb stud. Unless you know of a reliable source of information where it's been documented that it was a manual used in the movie we are going to have to agree to disagree.
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Not a movie, but I've been watching Tour of Duty lately. Fantastic knives in that show...I'll see if I can get some screenshots and make a dedicated thread later.
Lots of Gerber Mk. IIs (above), a Case V-42 dagger, some Kabars, M7 Bayonets, and even a sweet Randall Model 1, just like this one:
Lots of Gerber Mk. IIs (above), a Case V-42 dagger, some Kabars, M7 Bayonets, and even a sweet Randall Model 1, just like this one:
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I'm pretty sure its a Microtech halo actually...
Good eye, the whole time I was wondering what that was. Guess I'm not as familiar with microtech as I thought I was
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The real Sonny Crockett carried a Bren Ten. Also rare and worth a few bucks.
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A converted framelock with a scale release would have to have the scale overlayed on the frame. Indeed, the one Vallotton I'm aware of did just that. Do you see a scale overlayed on Cruises Sebenza? No, you don't.
It would be impossible or pointlessly impractical to create a scale release framelock where the actual frame itself had to be maniupulated. A framelock knife is based on the rigidity of the frame against the blade. A non-rigid framelock would be a piss-poor design. Scale release D/A autos like the Lone Wolf knives are linerlocks with a rigid frame and scale overlays, one of which is moveable. Scale release S/A autos like the Protech Magic or the Dalton Scale Release are in fact basically lockbacks that lock closed as well as open.
It's possible, I suppose, but if it were, wouldn't there be some press about it? Some maker proud of his work being featured in a blockbuster film with A-List actors? Just sayin...
How are you viewing it? If I use Cyberlink on my computer, I can't see a thing. If I use .vlc and slow it way down, I can see it plain as day.
Maybe it's mind controlled. Or magical. But unless you know of a reliable source of information where it's been documented that it was an exceedingly rare or unique, and unheard-of automatic that works in a way no automatic has ever been known to operate, I can only be left believing that you're mistaken and you're letting your eyes (and probably ears) deceive you, and that Tom Cruise is simply merely flicking open his Sebenza just like anybody who has ever handled a Sebenza can do with minimal practice.Or, if you can't wrap your head around this simplicity of this, consider the plot points in the movie, and remember that Michael Mann is a stickler for this kind of stuff. Cruise flies into LA and is given a briefcase full of his equipment. Because he can't take it with him on the plane. Presumably he had a list of stuff that he'll need, and somebody in LA got him what he needed. Would he ask for an ultra-rare, one of a kind custom knife that somebody somewhere could link to him should he lose it? One that would be illegal to sell and carry in CA. Or would he ask for something that any schmuck with $400 could pick up at the mall? Which would make more sense to you?
I don't want to argue. I still think its a custom automatic, or a sebenza with a prop spring in it to get the auto effect.To me the most memorable is Ralph Macchio's shellpuller leverlock, but there were a bunch of autos in that one. Some unidentified...
