GSO 20 request thread

Cruforge V on this one to keep cost down???

Depends on how much it keeps the costs down - there doesn't seem to be much of a difference in the price of the 4.7 cruforge vs 3V. Obviously there would be a greater difference with so much steel, but 3V is the better steel from what I've seen, and unless the $ difference is massive I'd take 3V. I'm also very partial to 3V's partial stain-resistance so that plays a part in my opinion for sure.
 
Cruforge V on this one to keep cost down???

I am with RedWood on the idea proposal of a GSO 20 as a practical machete and by using CFV steel, S!K ought to be able to keep the cost somewhat down. Nothing too thick for the zombie apocalypse type of fantasies, but something that in effect competes with the types of Fiddleback Forge machetes. A product that is very practical in the toughest of the World's jungles, swamplands or even in one's own backyard.
 
I guess I'm looking for something like a SK - Machete 24. Wide thin blade with a decent five or six inch handle and enough weight forward to chop with. A blade that is half handle is going to have a more neutral balance than I prefer. Steel choice is up to Guy. If you strike hard enough a thin blade will get lodged in thick wood, but a blade stout enough to pop chips like an axe that is also twenty or more inches long is going to be heavier than I want to swing for very long. I didn't call it a GSO because I don't think I need 3V for a machete, although with the introduction of a GSO Cru Forge V 4.7 that distinction may be changing.
 
Depends on how much it keeps the costs down - there doesn't seem to be much of a difference in the price of the 4.7 cruforge vs 3V. Obviously there would be a greater difference with so much steel, but 3V is the better steel from what I've seen, and unless the $ difference is massive I'd take 3V. I'm also very partial to 3V's partial stain-resistance so that plays a part in my opinion for sure.

The steel is less expensive, but then you have to add the cost of Cerakoting. Steel is a pretty small portion of the overall cost of a knife, and the other steps don't change in price. We can cut cost on these by sticking with the less expensive handles, fasteners and sheath. With less options, they are also faster to build and QC.
 
+1 on what Fancier had posted.

As for what Ellie is saying, it makes sense from the maker's / manufacturer's POV. From the consumers' aspect (for those who are looking for quality machetes) I guess that prices over $200 make purchasing decisions somewhat prohibitive. I am not just talking about the gang here on the Survive! sub forum who will probably even pay up to twice that much to add a GSO 20 to their repertoire, but I am talking about the more well off population who live in those more tropical type environments (jungles, swamps yet not forestyish areas) and can afford better and longer lasting machetes.

Again I bring up Fiddleback Forge machetes which run in the $130 - $150 range but are admittedly smaller than 20" (I think 12" - 18" range) but the steel choice is 1075 which is a cheaper metal as compared to anything which S!K uses or has used so far. TOPS 230 is also a good machete which runs in the $95 range and is about 16" but it has really "sucky" handle ergonomics! I really think if Survive! can make a decent profit with a machete at a faster turn around time and price it in line with FF, this will give Survive! another very nice platform in the more niche sections of that longer yet thinner blade market.

My idea of a very good to great machete is a very functional tool which requires the snap of the wrist to be a well performing tool as opposed to the kind of brute force that a heavy chopper and axe replacement requires. As for swords and that sorta stuff; I'm just getting too old for those sort of toys! Get off my lawn :D
 
So if I am to read into things, as I sometimes choose to for my own fantasies... Ellie is confirming a 3v gso 20, the only limitation is green canvas handles only??? Awesome!!!!!
 
The steel is less expensive, but then you have to add the cost of Cerakoting. Steel is a pretty small portion of the overall cost of a knife, and the other steps don't change in price. We can cut cost on these by sticking with the less expensive handles, fasteners and sheath. With less options, they are also faster to build and QC.

So if I am to read into things, as I sometimes choose to for my own fantasies... Ellie is confirming a 3v gso 20, the only limitation is green canvas handles only??? Awesome!!!!!

 
...and for the record, I want it less machete-ey and more S!wordy. Like a "super SURVIVOR!" (instead of super assassin).
 
So if I am to read into things, as I sometimes choose to for my own fantasies... Ellie is confirming a 3v gso 20, the only limitation is green canvas handles only??? Awesome!!!!!

Yep - I'm taking her post as a rock solid commitment.
 
...and for the record, I want it less machete-ey and more S!wordy. Like a "super SURVIVOR!" (instead of super assassin).

Agreed. Nothing wrong with wanting a Survive! Machete, but if you do, I suggest you start your own thread, rather than derailing this one. There are a lot of quality machetes out there, I think people started this thread because they wanted something that's not available without paying for a $4000 custom.
 
Agreed with the intent for a gso-20, I would say though...when your spouse questions why you need a sword, THATS when you say it's simply a nimble machete ;P
 
Agreed. Nothing wrong with wanting a Survive! Machete, but if you do, I suggest you start your own thread, rather than derailing this one. There are a lot of quality machetes out there, I think people started this thread because they wanted something that's not available without paying for a $4000 custom.
I don't know if the intent was to derail but instead just voicing of a preference. I'm all for discussion BUT Guy has mysteriously mentioned actual plans and drawings for a machete....... now that is exciting. As far as the sword-like dealer of death and destruction, we need to get this baby off the ground!
 
Sword, machete, whatever ;) I just don't want anything too heavy or it becomes just a collector's piece! This is SK! It should be a practical tool!
As long as we are expressing preferences :)
 
So Guy, how about it?

Something for the masses to have a taste of the S! interpretation of a waki, or modern day equivalent. I'm thinking ~20" blade length, and ~9-10" handle. I believe you know exactly what I'm thinking of as a reference...

I know you understand how awesome it is, and we all understand how awesome the S! version would be with based on everything else you've touched.

This would be absolutely amazing and more useful in bushcraft that some may realize. The ultimate chopper? Check. Overgrown weeds and vegetation? Check. Sudden emergency self defense implement from wildlife? Check. Grail? Check.

I know you have many many projects and ideas on your plate already, not to mention production back-logged at least through the beginning of the year, but just consider this. And please, please give us our grail.


update - Here are a few beautiful renderings that redwood22 put together. This is a glimpse of what the fabled GSO 20 could look like. Just add Guy's signature touch.

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I checked out the original post in this thread. Call it what you like, but the profile looks like a machete to me...
Granted, it does show a thick blade with thin scales.
 
So if I am to read into things, as I sometimes choose to for my own fantasies... Ellie is confirming a 3v gso 20, the only limitation is green canvas handles only??? Awesome!!!!!

I'm IN!
Two in CPM-3v for me, and I LOVE the green micarta handles!!!! :thumbup: --- ;)
 
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