Guardians of The Lambsfoot!

Jack Black said:
Well done Phil, nice composition :) Welcome to the Guardians :thumbsup:

I came across one of those CK knives a while back, an odd Lambsfoot, but better than some of the more recent knives they've designated as such o_O :thumbsup:

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Sorry to hear that Dan, we're not alone here, in fact I had never heard of sleep apnea before I came to The Porch. The fellers here were more useful in terms of diagnosing it than my doctor had been o_O Unfortunately, I have struggled with my CPAP machine for a while because of a longstanding cough, but I need to get back into using it again :thumbsup:



There's no stopping you now Phil! :D :) Who are the makers of the two outer knives? :thumbsup:



Thank you very much Dylan :) That's definitely a Taylor (@tmd_87 ) Beer I reckon! :D Nice photo buddy, the grey patina on your Waynorth Lambsfoot blade looks good :) :thumbsup:



Sincere thanks Vince, it's great to see you here pal :) :thumbsup:



Hello my friend, I was thinking of you just yesterday (as I often do), I hope you're keeping well :) Great photo, and an interesting Lambsfoot knife there :) :thumbsup:



Thanks pal, I am glad his missus has been vaccinated too, as she is also a frontline worker :thumbsup:

I came across Clanadonia entirely by chance on YouTube. They busk in the streets of the big Scottish towns, so with some luck, maybe we will see them if we ever make it up there together :) I wish I had half their energy :rolleyes: :thumbsup:


That's pretty cold! :eek: I just heard that it was minus 18 in the Scottish town of Sterling last night, but that's unusually cold for here. Lovely photo, and I hope you get an early Spring and warmer days ahead :) :thumbsup:



Same here Leon :) :thumbsup:



Mine too mate! :eek: :D :thumbsup:



Same here Dan, I found myself browsing restaurant menus at 3.00am :rolleyes: Hope you slept through once you eventually dropped off :) Classic photo my friend :) :thumbsup:

Good morning Guardians, it's bright and sunny here, with about an inch of snow. Hoping I get a chance to walk round the block at least today :rolleyes: Hope everyone is having a good week so far, and that you stay safe and well. I thought I'd go with some Rosewood today :) I haven't carried this one in ages, Originally, I'd thought it would be in my pocket a lot, but its Sambar cousin went and monopolised my pocket :rolleyes: :thumbsup:

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Hi Jack, thanks appreciate that. Also sorry to hear about your buddy.
The other 2 in the picture- the bottom one is Wingfield & rowbotham, the top one has 'real lamb f.....' on blade but can't make out anything on the tang. Here's a zoom of the bottom one. Cheers, Phil
 
Icarve2 said:
Hi Jack, thanks appreciate that. Also sorry to hear about your buddy.
The other 2 in the picture- the bottom one is Wingfield & rowbotham, the top one has 'real lamb f.....' on blade but can't make out anything on the tang. Here's a zoom of the bottom one. Cheers, Phil
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Thanks a lot Phil, Wingfield & Rowbotham was first listed (as ROWBOTHAM WINGFIELD) in 1797, but they may date back earlier. Geoffrey Tweedale, in Tweedale's Directory of Sheffield Cutlery Manufacturers 1740-2013 gives a lengthy history of the company. Couple of links below:

https://www.hawleysheffieldknives.com/n-fulldetails.php?val=w&kel=470

https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Wingfield,_Rowbotham_and_Co

Icarve2 said:
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Not even close! Not sure why you'd think that was a Lambsfoot Phil, but since this thread is exclusive to that pattern, I'd be grateful if you'd edit out the pic (perhaps replace it with a photo of one of your Lambsfoot knives) :thumbsup: If you're confused about what defines the pattern, please have a read through the early part of this thread :thumbsup:

Good morning Guardians, I hope everyone is doing OK, and that your week is going well. We still have a little snow here, and low temperatures, but the sun is out, for now at least :) Back with my Sambar Stag Hartshead Barlow today :) Have a good day Guardians :thumbsup:

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herder said:
JakeBlight,
Interesting to see another uncommon lambfoot model without bolsters which is called a "shadow" pattern as Jack mentioned. I would also agree with Jack that it dates to the 1940s to 1950s era.
I would be curious to know if you can make out a maker's stamp on the blade just above the handle. Enclosed is a similar example from the same era by H. Rowbotham who were out of business by 1969.

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I'll go look and get back to you on the stamp, I've never looked. In fact I only rediscovered the knife a couple of days ago. I seem to remember he was Royal Navy Air Service during the war but have no idea when he purchased it.
 
Old Engineer said:
Welcome to the Forums young man . You may regret it . There are many Enablers on here that want to show you a very nice sharp edged cutting tools . As Jack Black Jack Black has suggested , there can be Much More information to be had if you can find what is stamped on the Tang Area .

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Thanks for that... regret not on the net much so can't be a regular, but this forum makes me smile so it's now bookmarked. Will update knife details soon(ish), I just need to practice inserting photos.
 
Jack Black said:
Welcome aboard Jake :) In terms of protocol, have a read at post #1 in this thread, and maybe have a look at the first few pages. That sounds like an interesting profession. In terms of your other knives, there are probably other threads here to discuss them, but you have come to the right place for Lambsfoot knives! :D In post #1 you'll find a link to an index to the first few hundred pages of this thread, and that should save you a little time. That's an interesting Lambsfoot your father-in-law left you, quite unusual too. I think the covers (the slabs on the sides) are compressed fibre, which was most commonly seen on British/Commonwealth Army knives around WW2 and a little later. It's a very utilitarian design, what knife collectors call a 'Shadow' pattern, in as much that it has no front bolster, again like the Army knives. Do you know anything about how your father-in-law came to have it at all? If you have a look at the 'tang', the square area where the blade meets the frame, it will hopefully have the name of a maker. If you can read that, or take a clear photograph, it should be possible to tell you a bit more about it :thumbsup:

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LOL! :D Don't go to sleep Jer! :eek: ;) It looks like you've a lot more snow there than here! :thumbsup:
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Thanks Jack, will go through the posts/threads you've quoted. He was in the Royal Navy Air Service during the war so I guess it's quite probable that this was just an everyday work knife.... but that's me guessing. I'll post more info as and when I get it.
 
JakeBlight said:
Thanks Jack, will go through the posts/threads you've quoted. He was in the Royal Navy Air Service during the war so I guess it's quite probable that this was just an everyday work knife.... but that's me guessing. I'll post more info as and when I get it.
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I don't think that knife would have been issued during WW2 Jake, despite the style of the covers. During WW2, cutlery production in Sheffield was restricted to 'War Work', officially at least, and the Lambsfoot was not an issued pattern. I think it's more likely it was produced post-war. The NAAFI did sell some knives, which have similarities to the issue knives, but I'm not aware of a Lambsfoot being among them.

My uncle was on the aircraft-carrier HMS Bulwark soon after WW2 :thumbsup:
 
Jack Black said:
Thanks a lot Phil, Wingfield & Rowbotham was first listed (as ROWBOTHAM WINGFIELD) in 1797, but they may date back earlier. Geoffrey Tweedale, in Tweedale's Directory of Sheffield Cutlery Manufacturers 1740-2013 gives a lengthy history of the company. Couple of links below:

https://www.hawleysheffieldknives.com/n-fulldetails.php?val=w&kel=470

https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Wingfield,_Rowbotham_and_Co



Not even close! Not sure why you'd think that was a Lambsfoot Phil, but since this thread is exclusive to that pattern, I'd be grateful if you'd edit out the pic (perhaps replace it with a photo of one of your Lambsfoot knives) :thumbsup: If you're confused about what defines the pattern, please have a read through the early part of this thread :thumbsup:

Good morning Guardians, I hope everyone is doing OK, and that your week is going well. We still have a little snow here, and low temperatures, but the sun is out, for now at least :) Back with my Sambar Stag Hartshead Barlow today :) Have a good day Guardians :thumbsup:

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Jack, another fine photo of your fabulous HHB:thumbsup:. I enjoy you comments regarding Lambfoot knives and the history of them that you occasionally comment on:).

Corto_Malt said:
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Good day to all :cool:
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A very good dram of single malt scotch:thumbsup:. A very nice knife too:thumbsup:

Today it's back with my trusty Stag HHB.IMG_1582.JPG
 
Onebigbill said:
Jack, another fine photo of your fabulous HHB:thumbsup:. I enjoy you comments regarding Lambfoot knives and the history of them that you occasionally comment on:).

A very good dram of single malt scotch:thumbsup:. A very nice knife too:thumbsup:

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Thank you Bill, I do enjoy seeing the old examples :) Yjat's a cool photo my friend, what is that, a wheel-barrow? :cool: :thumbsup:

scrteened porch said:
There's a cooper in the Remsen-Steuben area who makes barrels for micro-distilleries.
I have a couple of unused barrel staves, a nail-keg of Grampa's, and a scorp in the garage, but I'm not going out there for a picture.
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Very interesting Jer, and a great pic :) I love to talk to old fellers who were involved in the old trades, each with unique skills, tricks, language, tools, etc :cool: I suspect coopering may be having something of a small resurgence with all the new craft breweries and distilleries. However, back in the day, it was a huge industry, and coopers were actually very powerful, amongst the urban proletariat. In 1699, the British Parliament passed the Bulk Tobacco Act, outlawing the import of tobacco 'but in cask, chest, or case each containing two hundredweight of of neat Tobacco.' In practice, it was transported in hogsheads, which coopers not only built, but also sealed, and unsealed. This had an even greater effect than 'containerization' did in the mid 20th century, but it denied sailors, ships officers, dockers, warehousemen, etc access to goods ('sweepings'), which they had previously pilfered by way of long-standing custom, WITHOUT the assistance of a cooper and his tools, and most transported items were shipped, sealed in barrels, including alcohol of course. To quote historian Peter Linebaugh, "There were coopers. They were the most craft-conscious workers of the river [Thames], whose hand-skills gave them an authority among the river trades lasting into the twentieth century. Their skills impressed Virginia Woolf: 'The light stroke on either side of the barrel which makes the bung start has been arrived at by years of trial and experience. It is the quickest, most effective of actions. Dexterity can go no further.' They provided drink to other workers ('Can I have a drink Mr Cooper?'); they lorded about with their 'scribing irons' (openers!). At the base of this power were ancient customs - 'sucking the monkey' and 'tapping the Admiral' - mentioned in Chaucer and Xenophon. The coopers united the two stages of offloading - on the river and on the quay - and their position was thus vital for the provision of sweepings to the lumpers and gangsmen. Within the division of labour, theirs was strategic to the livelihood of all."

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