hancea is a SCUMBAG do not deal with him!

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You lucked out it didn't become more complicated, imagine if it shipped Friday or Saturday? And going overseas would have made it really bad. Ya, flaking is annoying but it happens. However, funds should have stayed in account until buyer received knife and confirms everything is good,unless you can cover a refund irregardless without complications. Restocking fee? That's a bit much.
one last thing, no negative feedback is appropriate due to the rules, but a factual non-emotional,no name calling thread in the good,bad and ugly forum if you feel it's necessary. Then if a pattern of flaking is reported perhaps then action would be taken.
 
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hancea said:
I don't think that i did anything wrong here.I just backed up from deal,...
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That, my man, is precisely what you did wrong. A man's word should mean something and be worth something. Being known for not keeping your word is extremely difficult to overcome.
 
hancea said:
I don't think that i did anything wrong here.I just backed up from deal,i am sure many of the guys here did that.It even happened to me once or twice,but i moved on.
The guy didn't even responded my emails,i asked him if he received the money aad when will he ship the knife,but no response.
Until i don't hold the knife in my hands the transaction is not over,so the money are still mine until then.
The reaction of this guy is way exaggerated !
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Please also understand that in the time that it was sold to you and then decided you don't want the knife, there's the potential that another chance for someone else to buy it may have been lost. They see it's sold and make another knife purchase instead and the seller may lose the sale or may incur a lengthy delay in getting it sold again. Your not the only one to ever change their mind at one time or another, but remember it may have a negative impact on other people, so be sure you want to make the purchase before saying I'll take it.
 
Wow, refund his money, leave a negative for his flaking on the deal and move forward.

That's it
 
wolfmann601 said:
Wow, refund his money, leave a negative for his flaking on the deal and move forward.

That's it
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I have to agree 100% here. You didn't print a label or send the package..... whats the loss here other than you had to refund someone? You are NOT entitled to keep 10% for your time. When you engage in e-commerce on any forum there is a chance you may have to refund someone for whatever reason. To go as far as calling him a scumbag for simply changing his mind is a bit much. A more appropriate action would have been to leave the feedback and move on.

Yes, he was wrong for backing out of a deal and I can assure you most people won't be doing business with him because of the negative feedback. I know I wont
 
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I will agree this is what should have been done and I will fully admit that I clearly have made mistakes in the process of reporting the negative transaction with him.
A lot of people seem to be stuck on the 10% thing I understand I am not entitled to keep 10% etc the FULL refund was given.
Very fortunately this is now over and the situation wasn't as bad as it could have been. I just know that if a lot of people knew of him backing out of a deal in this way that they would not want to deal with him and now they know.
I fully apologies for the names and some of the rash things said some of it was definitely a bit of an overreaction.
He just has proven to be a dishonest man to me and will not deal with him again in the future. Now it is time to move on.
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You lucked out it didn't become more complicated, imagine if it shipped Friday or Saturday? And going overseas would have made it really bad. Ya, flaking is annoying but it happens. However, funds should have stayed in account until buyer received knife and confirms everything is good,unless you can cover a refund irregardless without complications. Restocking fee? That's a bit much.
one last thing, no negative feedback is appropriate due to the rules, but a factual non-emotional,no name calling thread in the good,bad and ugly forum if you feel it's necessary. Then if a pattern of flaking is reported perhaps then action would be taken.
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You shouldn't have left negative for a deal that never took place. Negative feedback is reserved for deals that took place, period. Not just because you were inconvenienced. A simple thread saying what transpired would have sufficed.
 
If I was the buyer, I would have asked nicely if the seller minded if I changed my mind. If there was any issue at all, I would have followed through with the sale and flipped the knife myself. This whole situation is unnecessary and kind of disappointing from both sides.
 
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this signature by gizo is the only worth while thing i read in this thread.

i totally understand it isn't good etiquette to pull out of a deal but to boldly call him a SCUMBAG over it just makes you sound like a child. be a bigger man than that. good luck with the knife and new home, peace
 
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Why does Natedog have pictures of a different knife that's not the knife for sale in his first post, in his sale thread at all? How hard is it to edit that out?
 
I wouldn't buy anything from Natedog if I wasn't happy and returned it he'd probably leave me negative and make a thread calling me a scumbag!
 
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Looks like Natedog left negative feedback for another member "rio" tied to the same sale thread?
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/itrader.php?u=177896
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I made a mistake and did not read the thread fully , nate posted the wrong pics on his first post and I should have read it, I did send him various emails and pms apologizing for my mistake in pulling the trigger, he decided not to communicate with me directly and gave me negative feedback, I never had anybody giving me negt feedback in the 8 years I've been dealing in the forums so my reaction was poor , i apologize for that but to me giving me the negative feedback when he was in a small part at fault for leaving those pics there was a bit harsh imho, he never communicated with me he simply refund me and gave me negative feedback, I leave it up to you guys to decide , I've been here for a long time and never wrong anybody, it is my mistake and I should have read that thread ( which has been edited after all this happen), i don't mind the negt feedback , those who know me can vouch for me and see that I made an honest mistake, his post was not tarnished and yes it was an inconvenience but I was never giving the chance to make this right by him.
 
Natedog is at fault and should not have pictures in his first post of a knife that's not even the one for sale. WTF is that about and why can't he edit it out? I see a thread of a knife for sale I don't expect to see ANY pictures of another knife not for sale.
 
He also needs to read rule number 4:

SECTION 4 - Rules for Feedback -
All feedback on sales or trades must be kept to the Feedback Forum and/or iTrader.
It is not mandatory to leave feedback, but it is highly recommended. It serves an important purpose sharing your good and bad experiences with the community.
We will not edit feedback for you unless it's an obvious error (ie negative rating). You can report it using the black triangle button on the iTrader page.
Retaliatory negative feedback ratings can earn you an infraction. Getting pissed off because a deal didn't go though is no reason to try and ruin someones rep. You are expected to conduct yourself in a mature and responsible manner.
If a deal did not happen, there is no iTrader Feedback to leave.
Threads started in the Feedback: G, B, & U section should contain facts that support your reason for starting a thread. Remember there is a difference between opinion and fact. Keep your topic civil or hold off posting until you've composed yourself. Complaining about a person that has exercised their rights as a seller or buyer does no good, and it may backfire on you.
 
If I see things right, the buyer lives in Romania and you Texas? You were going to do business with him? Can you imagine how long and how messed up this deal would have gotten had he not signed for it on delivery? I think the OP lucked his way out of a brutal dilemma.
Refund his money and run!!!
 
RevDevil said:
Fortunately (or unfortunately), flaking out on a deal is not grounds for someone being banned. That would be a bit extreme and I'm sure given enough time every single person short of the owner would have done something to get themselves banned (myself included). The rules for a transaction state that people should not say "I'll take it" unless they are 100% sure they want the item. As it turns out, sometimes people change their mind. The sad thing is that they do not communicate or try to manage things in an efficient manner. Leaving a negative feedback when no transaction occurred isn't a good idea and is also against the rules. So going back to the original point, if we were to ban people for flaking out, we could also ban them for issuing negative feedback when clearly the deal was not completed.
If it were me, I'd be inconvenienced and upset of course. But, in hindsight as long as I was not out any money or an item I wouldn't really be too vindictive. I've had tire kickers come and say "I'll take it" in my sales threads and they vanished. That is why I have a disclaimer in my threads to prevent against this.
"The item will be available for sale until it is paid for and shipped"
But that is just me. One other thing to note, these threads when done without true justification have a nasty way of coming back around and kicking the author in the pants. It's happened dozens of times in the past.
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How true!
 
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