Hard use tactical folder

Why is nobody (except Charlie Mike) talking about the TriAd lock? It is THE strongest lock ever produced for a folding knife.
 
I trust my Cold Steel Spartan just as much as my Demko custom Navajah.
 
Anybody that has never handled a spartan..Get a brand new spartan, open it and than try to close it one handed. Unless you know what to expect you will be humbled very quickly in it's lock strength and stiffness.Your thumb might be in pain.
 
Nternal said:
I'm not sure how debatable it is.
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Many schools of thought exists on the matter of lock strength regardless of what lock it is or who the manufacturer is. Some people will like that specific lock, others wont regardless if it is good or bad. Personal taste at the end of the day. I have seen some friction folders take more abuse then some locking knives on the market. That doesnt mean I wont be buying any knives with a lock.

Another thing are locks that have been patented that are still making their way into production. These locks wont disengage without catastrophic failure under use or the user removing his hand from the grip. How might those affect knives and this debate in future one will have to wait and see.
 
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cziv said:
I'd suggest going to Youtube.com and typing any cold steel folder n the searc box and you'll see they super hard use and tacticlol too ;)
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Even the most overbuilt folding knife is still broken in half. ;)
 
Shotgun said:
Even the most overbuilt folding knife is still broken in half. ;)
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True enough Shotgun. I broke my teeth on Cold Steel folders like the large Voyager and other offerings. I think that for a guy who doesn't want to break the bank, a Recon-1 for e.g. like mine (stripped, w/skateboard tape on the spine and the pocket clip pinch area sanded down) is one h*ll of a hard use knife @ $60. :)

But there's hard use and there's HARD use/tactical types too. :D

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marthinus said:
now you are just adding fuel to the fire, because you know that is debatable to death! :)
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I know no such thing. What is the debate?

I have batoned my Cold Steel American Lawman with a 4lb hammer. Would anyone care to do that with one of these fancy Ti Frame lock knives? Or a Manix 2?

I understand that these knives you all are talking about in this thread are fancy and expensive. but that does not equate to strength.
 
PassinBy said:
& I like the stonewash did you have it professionally reground?
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No, I'm glad you guys like it. I saw another member strip one - so I stripped mine and sure enough, there's a beautiful stonewash finish underneath the DLC coating.

I took mine apart and scratched it all off with my S30V Kershaw Random leek (has a nice flat, sharp edge that retained it's edge over about 1 1/2 hour of scraping). The coating is really on there but I didn't get a single mark on the surface of the blade under the coating. Good luck or whatever, I can't say for sure? :)

I reprofiled the edge using DMT diafolds. x-coarse, coarse, medium, fine, x-fine and xx-fine then stropped. It's mirror polished but not a high grind as I wanted it to be fairly tough like from the factory - it's about 40* inclusive. :thumbup:
 
ac1d0v3r1d3 said:
I know no such thing. What is the debate?

I have batoned my Cold Steel American Lawman with a 4lb hammer. Would anyone care to do that with one of these fancy Ti Frame lock knives? Or a Manix 2?

I understand that these knives you all are talking about in this thread are fancy and expensive. but that does not equate to strength.
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Yeah dude and the American lawman is the little guy in the gang, the bigger ones are even stronger.
 
Nternal said:
Yeah dude and the American lawman is the little guy in the gang, the bigger ones are even stronger.
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Honestly I think that a longer blade would give you more leverage against the pivot and cause the lock to be "weaker" than a similar knife with a shorter blade. So maybe the smaller size of the American Lawman is beneficial attribute.
 
fireincairo said:
What about the Kershaw Lahar. Is that really a poor-mans ZT?
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I dunno about that, but I do recommend the Lahar to you highly.

What I can tell you about the Lahar is that it is very underrated , maybe because it does not contain any titanium in it's parts (sarcasm). Very thick blade but a sweet cutter , nice grind VG10 steel a proven 'hard use' steel , excellent flipper , g10 scales with semi-beefy steel liners , also has one of the best pocket clips on any Kershaw ( Kershaw is notorious for great knives with funky clips ). The blade and overall size of the knife is comforting , you will never feel underknifed carrying a Lahar. The blade has some recurve to it , love it or hate it a recurve cuts far better than a blade without. The only thing that bugged me about my Lahar is the lack of a lanyard hole , otherwise it was worth every penny.

Tostig
 
The 0551 or 0550 is a big knife just like many of the other ZT knives. So no matter how you slice it these are pocket fillers. By comparison the XM-18 carries a lot easier if you can find one. Speaking of that just finding any ZT model can be challenging for some and especially at a good price. Fortunately you don't have to spend an arm and a leg to get a great knife that can take a beating and keep on ticking. The American Lawman is slimmer, weighs less than any of the knives mentioned but is just as tough and just as capable of taking a royal beating!~ And at a fraction of the cost of a ZT or Hinderer or Strider or about anything else you can name in the hard use category of knives and they are far easier to find than some of these models. Buy three and replace one as they break and you still won't spend what just one of these other high end models would run you.

Some other knives can be had for less that are just as tough like the Recon folder or even some of the Voyager series knives by Cold Steel using the Triad lock.

I'd also suggest some of Spyderco's compression lock models. I know a lot of guys that beat the crap out of their Para Military models routinely and they take it and usually do so admirably. The blades are a little thinner for better higher performance cutting and slicing so they are not quite the pry tools of some of these others thicker tipped competitors but so long as you know that going in you'll be fine. The Para Military I or II either one is a fine tactical folder and certainly one of the top five tactical folders available in my opinion. At $120 plus or minus $ to get into one you can't argue with that either. I have two and love both. Great knives! The Military by Spyderco is used by a lot of guys over there in the Sandbox fighting for our country too! Don't discount that one either.
 
ac1d0v3r1d3 said:
Honestly I think that a longer blade would give you more leverage against the pivot and cause the lock to be "weaker" than a similar knife with a shorter blade. So maybe the smaller size of the American Lawman is beneficial attribute.
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Yes but everything on the spartan is a lot beefier including the pivot,stop pin ,etc.
 
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