Has William Johnson fulfilled his obligations?

Just wanted to chime in concerning the US Postal Service. I've done many deals, including trades within the United States AND abroad, with NO problems whatsoever. This includes a straight-across trade with a gentleman in South Africa (where, according to him, the postal service is sketchy at best). I have ALWAYS gotten my items, and my customer has ALWAYS gotten theirs. Seems rather funny that I can ship close to 50 times using USPS, both national and international, with no problems...

I certainly hope everything works out for all involved in this situation. I don't like to see anyone banned from the forums...unless they deserve it. I will withhold judgement until after DannyC is or is not compensated (Jan. 30, 2000).

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I realize this topic is none of my business, as it is also not the business of half the posters above (but when did that ever stop us from showing our lack of sense?) I will state one fact (not an opinion): I have had exactly one trade with "Scarman" (about three months ago) and he acted overly fair and was extremely timely.

Whoops, I lied about stating one fact! Fact #2: I've had stuff lost by both USPS and UPS.

Bruce Woodbury
 
As the USPS number listed by Scarman/Mr. Johnson is a San Francisco number, perhaps a Bay Area member can help out Dannyc/Mr. Chua by getting the claim # and ringing Ms. Panetta? Doing so might end the need for some speculations and alleviate some of Dannyc's justified skepticism.

Glen

PS How does one properly "quote" text from another posting? Below is Scarman's first reply, w/contact info:

"I only recently got off of the phone with the claims office in San Francisco and was informed the package was indeed mailed on 17 May 99 to Manilla, where it is now is anyone's guess.
"There is a claim number and I have forwarded that to Mr. Chua as well as the phone number of the claims office in San Francisco (415) 536-6535 ask for a Ms Panetta. I have been informed that they have tried numerous times to contact the Phillipines to no avail so now must submit a request in writing and if no response in 30 days then I will be reimbursed and Mr Chua will get his money. Doubt me....? Call and check for yourself."
 
Bruce, not to jump on your a**, but I had a "deal" with William. I sent him a knife and several contacts (phone and email) later, I got my knife back. The "deal" fell through. I thought the excuses stunk. But, he used those same excuses with me that he used with several others. That stinks more. So, I don't know what else to say. Have a knice day!
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BTW, I have lost several packages through USPS, but UPS is worse... don't even get me started on UPS...
 
Sorry guys I have to chime in here with regards to USPS. I once did a deal with TXLASER for a Microtech. He was great! Can't say the same for the Post Office's Priorty Mail, tho! The knife got to me in 3 separate packages. The knife in one plastic bag all scrathed up(with an apology imprinted on the bag, guess this happens a lot) and two other platic bags with the parts of the box (soaking wet!) in them. No, can't say I'm partial to them! Don't even get me started on this past X-mas!

Sorry for the rant, guys!

Vince
 
Originally posted by storyville:
As the USPS number listed by Scarman/Mr. Johnson is a San Francisco number, perhaps a Bay Area member can help out Dannyc/Mr. Chua by getting the claim # and ringing Ms. Panetta? Doing so might end the need for some speculations and alleviate some of Dannyc's justified skepticism.
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Glen, nobody's really doubting the fact that he sent the package. What got to me was the wait he had to put me through all these times. I've been very patient, and kept my mouth shut, not wanting to add fire to the flame, so to speak. But I think everybody has his limits, and I believe I have reached mine, after 7+ months, that is.

I don't think even USPS is that stupid not to realize that after over 7 months, that package is gone. I told him to use EMS, but he went the cheaper method, and gave me excuses. What I'm pointing out here, is the fact that this guy doesn't even do his share in making sure I get reimbursed. He already got my items long before, he already traded off one of them, but I have yet to see some action on his side regarding his part of the deal. Giving me excuses, and using "family" as part of the excuse is something that really irked me.

Dan
 
22 days and counting...

Oh yeah, just to MAKE SURE. If ever "Scarman" decides to pay up, I will need someone to take the payment for me, just so that there will be NO EXCUSE whatsoever of it getting lost in the mail again. I'm not going to take any chances this time around. At least, if the check or whatever method of payment "Scarman" decides on, gets sent to someone within the same country, there's a smaller chance of it "getting lost" along the way, right? specially if a signature is required to receive it.

What do you guys think? Is this feasible?

I would also advice "Scarman" to send it via registered mail, if he wants to make sure the check gets received and signed for.

Hmmm.. I have a person in mind already. But I'll just post it once the time is up.

Dan
 
Danny, I use USPS International Money Orders and they work great. Also the "plain" USPS money orders work. Let me know if I can help.
 
This thread is one of the greatest examples of group dynamics I've ever seen! "Meanwhile, Spark, who wants to be known as the administrator for the "kindler, gentler, forum--not like that other, now defunct forum that died because of it's flame wars and backbiting, lobs the grenade (known as Scarman) at Dannyc. Danny, who has let the cancerous lesion he affectionately calls "what Scarman did to me" continue to eat at his soul, strikes at the bait Spark lays in front of him. Dannyc is hooked and thrashes wildly through this thread.

I could believe this thread if it were being perpetuated by children. I thought adults acted better. The worst thing that could happen to Dannyc is that Scarman immediately refunds his money because then he wouldn't have anything to say! Oh he'd probably bring it up in six months anyway with a thread title like, "Remember when that jerk, Scarman, ......"

Scarman may have done everything Dannyc says he did, I don't know, but what did Dannyc do for six months! It sounds like Scarman let time get away from him without someone keeping the pressure on--and the one to do that was Dannyc. This should and could have been resolved in the 30 days the USPS needed to investigate and pay the insurance. I think you both (Scarman and Dannyc) need a spanking and to be sent to the "time out" corner!

Spark, explain to me again how this forum is better than that other one?
 
bruce,
So it was Danny's fault? That makes all kinds of sense. If this thread is so childish, what did you bring to it with that post? I think this forum is better than others because people would have been slinging all kinds of personal insults, the moderators would be flaming people or deleting posts that they disagree with. That's why this forum is better. Go to some of the others (I'm not naming names, but most of us know who I'm talking about) and talk to the moderators and see how long your post stays up.

Bruce, I guess you don't need to know which members might be ripping people off or at least using poor common sense in trades. There's no reason to click on The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly then. I hope Danny gets his money back at least, since all he is guilty of is trusting someone he thought he knew. Don't blame the victim.

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Them:"What's that clipped to your pocket, a beeper?"
Me:"Uuh....yeah, something like that."


 
If this forum is so bad, go to one of the other one's where you can lie and bash BladeForums with the other few.Maybe eventually you'd realized that Spark and Mike are the best around.

The Good, Bad, and the Ugly forum is the place for these things to be talked about. All Spark is trying to do is protect his "guests" from being ripped off. Do the other forums have an area like this?

-AR

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Actually Bruce, I was the one who, in a round about way, got Spark involved. As the first to speak up loudly when I was...not treated fairly by Mr. Johnson, Danny contacted me. With a few email, I pointed out that William Johnson and Scarman were the same person.

I suggested that Dan contact Mike and Spark in this matter. There is more going on than just what has been posted here.

This is what is supposed to happen in the
G,B&U forum. Mostly things here run smoothly but every so often, things will go wrong. Sad fact of life but true. As was said elsewhere, no one is forcing you to follow this thread. if you find it objectional or distasteful, simply do not click on the burning folder.

Take care,
Derek Russell
 
Dear Bruce,

Originally posted by bruce:
This thread is one of the greatest examples of group dynamics I've ever seen! "Meanwhile, Spark, who wants to be known as the administrator for the "kindler, gentler, forum--not like that other, now defunct forum that died because of it's flame wars and backbiting, lobs the grenade (known as Scarman) at Dannyc. Danny, who has let the cancerous lesion he affectionately calls "what Scarman did to me" continue to eat at his soul, strikes at the bait Spark lays in front of him. Dannyc is hooked and thrashes wildly through this thread.
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First of all, please don't blame Spark on this one. He did something that I didn't have the balls to do in the first place, and that is to put everything in public. Why, you may ask? Simple. I TRUSTED THE GUY. I'm the kind of person who trusts easily.


I could believe this thread if it were being perpetuated by children. I thought adults acted better. The worst thing that could happen to Dannyc is that Scarman immediately refunds his money because then he wouldn't have anything to say! Oh he'd probably bring it up in six months anyway with a thread title like, "Remember when that jerk, Scarman, ......"
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Oh geez... gimme a break, Bruce. You don't know me, so please don't judge me right away as to what I'm going/not going to do in six months time. And hey, that's not the worse thing that could happen to me if ever, that would be the BEST thing to happen if ever. Please don't confuse the two.

But it never happened, did it? That's why this thread came up.


Scarman may have done everything Dannyc says he did, I don't know, but what did Dannyc do for six months!
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You really wanna know?
1.) Hope
2.) emailing him for status of package
3.) more emails that eventually never got replied to.
4.) pondering on how to go about this without bringing it out in public.
5.) consulted with forumite friends.
6.) waited some more

If this happened to you, Bruce, what would YOU have done? Patience is a virtue I have learned all these years living alone, and surviving on my own, from scratch. Can you say the same?


It sounds like Scarman let time get away from him without someone keeping the pressure on--and the one to do that was Dannyc. This should and could have been resolved in the 30 days the USPS needed to investigate and pay the insurance. I think you both (Scarman and Dannyc) need a spanking and to be sent to the "time out" corner!
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Let's put it this way... I didn't put any pressure, BUT told him that I trust him to do whatever's possible to get it done and over with. Would putting pressure on Scarman benefit me? Hell no! He had family problems back then (whether true or not) and I'm not the type to take advantage of a problem to create other problems for the guy.


Spark, explain to me again how this forum is better than that other one?
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It's sad to see how you feel about BFC. I consider this last remark an insult, if not a low blow. Sure I've seen some action in some no-so-good threads in the past, but I have yet to see anybody posting such remarks on something that the Administrator of this site did to help a fellow forumite.

I don't see any contracts being signed about how you have to stay with BFC if you find the contents displeasing to your eyes. If you feel that the other forum is better, nobody's stopping you.

Dan


[This message has been edited by Dannyc (edited 01-07-2000).]
 
Hiya Copfish!

Yep, money orders would do fine. Anything is better than nothing, I guess..

I've already contacted the person who will be receiving it, as he is also located within the country.

I just hope Scarman keeps his word this time, in public. If not, then I'll really need your help here...
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Thanks..

Dan
 
Any commercial bank can wire money. IMHO Bank to Bank transactions are always the safest when dealing internationally. I have never had one that took longer than 12 hours.

I'm sure Scarman would be willing to pay the fee just to end this thread...
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Good luck,
Michael

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He who has smelt the smoke is never free again...
 
One thing about wiring money. Most banks require a wire account on both ends seperate from your personal account. The account must be an active one not just set up for one transaction. There are also wire fees involved that vary from institution to institution.Most wire accounts are used to transfer large sums daily by large account holders. Check with your bank on this because the recieving party has to be in agreement with their bank also.Hope this is of some help.
Bob

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Spark, based on Derek's revelation, I owe you an apology--thanks Derek.

Dannyc: Thanks for bringing to my rememberance the old adage I should have adhered to, being: Never wrestle with a pig in the mud--You end up getting dirty and the pig just likes it!

That said, I will bow out of something that wasn't my business anyway (sometimes you just can't help yourself, trying to right a wrong, or in this case trying to identify justice where even justice would be thrown back in your face. Dannyc, read Shakespear's "The Merchant of Venice." When you get to the character known as "Shylock", go look in the mirror!

I'm out of here!
 
Tsk tsk... And this is coming from an Army officer, protecting another Army officer.
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Thanks for calling me names, and then leaving abruptly, Bruce. I really appreciate that. I'm sure the rest of the forumites appreciated that as well. Just goes to show how "educated" you are.

Dan
 
Wow, what happens when I don't pay attention.

Since so many involved are in the military themselves, I don't see a need to conceal this anymore and we might as well lay this on the line.

Danny, when I was in the army, our chain of command had no problem taking our pay if we racked up a debt / obligation. Bill collectors only had to call the 1st Sergeant and matter would be handled quickly, or *he* would make sure that they are handled.

If you don't get paid, I would recommmend contacting Mr. Johnson's chain of command and let them know what's going on. The fact that he is still making purchases and trades while refusing to meet his obligation to you should be enough for some action to be spurred. The fact that you are not the first person to be treated like this should make them take action quickly.

If you don't get any response from them, go above them. **** does roll downhill.

Spark

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Sorry about that, Spark.. I just didn't feel that I deserved the name-calling and stuffs like that. I don't even know why Mr. Woodbury was acting like that in the first place. I don't have anything against him, it's just the way he posted those messages of his. Yeah, freedom of speech, but I believe a little diplomacy is in order here, don't you think?

I'm the one getting ripped off, and I'm the one being blamed for it. I'm already confused as it is, and I don't need anymore of these bashings. I hope Bruce realized that before he started shooting away.

Again, my sincerest apologies to the parties involved. Spark, as I don't know how to get in touch with scarman's chain of command, I guess it'll just be a matter of hoping and praying that he lives up to his end of the bargain. I have received a couple of offers of help from fellow forumites, and for that I am grateful. I just don't want to resort to anything else until there's no other choice.

Dan
 
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