Help with contacting Roger Linger

it's like the Brown Curse or something...

seems like a number of the makers of WSKs ... well ... can't deliver after some point. perhaps they are all locked up in court battles, and have no money or time to make knives, or return what is owed.

i'm relieved everytime i didn't send a rent check's worth of money to various folx now. so very relieved.

VERY STRANGE.

Bladite
 
I fear this is not the last problem with a Maker or Smith.
The depressive economy leaves little patience for attitude.
A lot of makers are doing 1/2 the business they did two years ago.
The cash flow of the indivdual is so bad in some areas people are walking away from homes and, states tax you way over the limit.
Those who can not make a living making knives should look else where, or do it part time.
Sell what you make best , do not take orders.
If there is no demand you can not charge big numbers unless you are one of a few super stars.
This is one of the small industries I hate to see have problems ! Who is left at the end will be the new group of businessmen who make knives.
 
FWO said:
I fear this is not the last problem with a Maker or Smith.
The depressive economy leaves little patience for attitude.
A lot of makers are doing 1/2 the business they did two years ago.
The cash flow of the indivdual is so bad in some areas people are walking away from homes and, states tax you way over the limit.
Those who can not make a living making knives should look else where, or do it part time.
Sell what you make best , do not take orders.
If there is no demand you can not charge big numbers unless you are one of a few super stars.
This is one of the small industries I hate to see have problems ! Who is left at the end will be the new group of businessmen who make knives.
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This problem started way before economy was depressive. A thief is a thief is a thief. For all I know Roger Linger is not a knife maker. I have yet to see a knife made by this lowlife common crook. So to me he is just a thief who stole my money.
 
Stepa said:
This problem started way before economy was depressive. A thief is a thief is a thief. For all I know Roger Linger is not a knife maker. I have yet to see a knife made by this lowlife common crook. So to me he is just a thief who stole my money.
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Well, I could show you one WSK style he delivered to me, a quite nice one, but I'm also waiting on the other one ordered and paid for some time ago:confused:.... I really wish we could get to the bottom of this one
 
Actually, the makers who end up like this do not generally seem to be the ones who can't make a living at it. They make too good a living, that is, they accept too many orders and fall behind and lose intensity.

There is just no excuse. Taking an advance and falling so far behind is just wrong. "The economy" is not a person to need to take responsibility.
 
FWO said:
I fear this is not the last problem with a Maker or Smith.
The depressive economy leaves little patience for attitude.
A lot of makers are doing 1/2 the business they did two years ago.
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if they are doing half the business... that gives them plenty of time to catch up on orders, right? :D:D:D

somehow, it doesn't seem to workout that way.

in one case, a year after i've already sold the original knife, and owned it for two, am waiting for the agreed upon sheath ;) sheesh.


Bladite
 
Roger went and stole my money almost five years ago when the economy was booming. I would love for him to grow a pair of balls and just admit on this forum to everyone he took money from that he is a scumbag. come on Roger, just give us one excuse, something! who would like to take a drive with me to 100 Laurel Ave., Poco, WV to confronting this POS! anyone who has had roger take their money please contact me, maybe we can get a group lawsuit against him. he took almost $750 from me and I would gladly spend 5X that to make his life hell.
 
I been waiting over 2 years since he told me my knife was just about "finished". Sent numerous emails over the last 2 years, no response! He had no problem emailing me when he was looking for the final payment though! The worst part of this whole process is, if he does intend to deliver, then why not get your ass on a library computer and spend a day emailing everyone you took deposits from and explaining what is going on! You look like a lowdown thief and liar when you disappear with peoples money! I have given up expecting ever to receive my knife. Seriously considering legal action if i dont hear anything soon! Probably cost me more in the long run than the knife is worth and I will get less satisfaction than bashing his skull in, but sometimes you have to admit that some slick hustler put one over on me, and apparently many others. He'lll have his day someday!
 
Wow, what a thread...

I had the (mis)fortune of becoming interested in the WSK design and came across the name Roger Linger in another thread. This thread has certainly helped me determine who to avoid in choosing a seller/maker.

I can't help but be curious, though... Since it appears that some posters have subscribed to this thread, I'm curious if those who have lost money have had any success in taking the legal route (though I'm not sure which route that would be, as your only chance for success would be filing the small claims suit in Linger's county).

-Jeff
 
Well, it's been awhile and I thoght I drop in to officially say that I have been ripped off by roger linger as others have stated. I have given him plenty of time to make the knife I payed for and I have no more comunication or responses from him

It was against my better judgement to send the money to him upfront but he had a great line of bs and I fell for it. Just putting it out there in case he's still fishing for new people to steal from.

I learned a valuable lesson and will never do such a thing again. I plan to take legal action against him and hopefully get the money back. I know Im not The only one, and if anyone would like to join me in this then contact me and maybe we can work together. I have a few ideas.

Sorry Roger thought you were a good guy but you did this to yourself. You've had plenty of time as it's been over 3 years.

I wonder if a he has enough people he's wronged for a class action. Don't know much about how that works though.

I have looked into small claims, but you'd need to fly there to file and then back to be in court. I don't care what it takes, I may have beenthe idiot to send the money off, but it's worth it just to look him in the face and make him answer to what he's done.
 
Interestingly enough, I actually had a good experience with Crain; but then again it was over 20 years ago. Seems that once they get a little popularity, they turn into assholes..............
 
I got to admit, being someone surfing these forums for a number of years it is sad. I have seen custom knife makers go from highly regarded to being lambasted as thieves. It is sad. I am not passing judgement on the makers or accusers. I am in no position to do so....

But, as someone that was hoping to purchase some custom crafted steel it makes you leary.... I have been working into financial stability to be able to purchase/order some products. Heck, my spouse almost placed orders with some makers as birthday gifts and/or holliday occasions. Fortunately/unfortunately, our finances were not at a point to allow it. So, we put it off for the next year, then the next year, then the next.... now to find folks we had been planning to deal with having a marked decline in reputation.

Again, it's sad. I think placing deposits and such is reasonable.... but in this environment, nerve racking and maybe frightening.

PS: As for if RL ever made knives.... I never bought one, but this is what I have seen:

http://riflestocks.tripod.com/pics41.html
 
LSkylizard,
There are many, many reputable makers posting on these boards, who've had hundreds of transactions and come with hundreds of recommendations. I was going to start a list here of many I've dealt with over the years and have full confidence in, but it's honestly so long that I'd be very afraid of leaving somebody out and unintentionally snubbing them. :D

The thing is, don't pay up front. In very rare cases it can be legitimate (i.e. you want some exotic material that is going to cost the maker an arm and a leg like mastodon ivory or something) but stay away from makers who take a deposit as part of their SOP, as they now have your money and no product. Also, pretty much every knife maker on these boards has a camera so it's perfectly legitimate to ask for a picture of your finished knife before sending your money. Actually, I've dealt with very few who didn't include a picture (or several) with the "Your knife is ready!" emails they send as they're eager to show off their efforts.

I'm one of the ones who dealt with Linger and came out fine. I'm also very disappointed by what's happened with him, as he really does have does have talent. Nevertheless, I wouldn't deal with him again, not unless he suddenly made good with absolutely EVERYBODY on this thread who's had dealings with him, either refunding their money or delivering their knives or (if he was REALLY classy) both.
 
t1mpani said:
...There are many, many reputable makers posting on these boards, who've had hundreds of transactions and come with hundreds of recommendations...
The thing is, don't pay up front. In very rare cases it can be legitimate ...but stay away from makers who take a deposit as part of their SOP...
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I sent you an email reply to your communication.... I appreciate it.
I am still interested in some custom items. I definately welcom any assistance you may provide me in making the necessary connections with the correct folks. Please see my other posting linked below as to what I am looking for:


http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=725223
 
This thread is pretty scary to me. I want to go with a custom FB maker, but this scumbag turns me off of that.
 
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