Holy Grail Everyday Carry?

[Dogdrawz]

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[pinnah]

It would seem that some people have a different definition of the term grail. It is hard to rationally talk about a subject with such people when we can't even use the same accepted nomenclature. Either that or some folks are purposefully being contrarians. I find it hard to believe that a knife knut here for the love of knives would say $23 worth of readily available to anyone knives are a grail. Further, a knife of unknown quality and materials that one can purchase at any lowe's in blister packs of 15 for a $20 is even less plausible as a grail. Most here are obviously dealing with the subject on another level than a few.

I'll let the other guys who posted "pedestrian" knives defend their choices and will only speak for myself.

I believe my understanding of the term "grail knife" is pretty consistent with how it is often used on the Traditional, Outdoor, Wilderness and Multitool sub-forums here on Bladeforums and how it is often used on another traditional oriented knife forum. A standard definition may help...

Merriam-Webster:

the object of an extended or difficult quest.

Oxford:

A thing that is being earnestly pursued or sought after: 'profit has become the holy grail'

The way I typically see the term being used in the other forums is a knife or tool that somebody has found that suits their needs (including their aesthetic sensibilities) after trying many other options and typically over a long period of time.

For example, if somebody in the Traditional forum says, "The GEC Beer-scout is my grail knife", the implication is that they have tried many other knives before this in their quest and have finally found "the right one" (for them). It doesn't imply that the GEC Beer-scout is particularly expensive or obscure, as it is it neither in the grand scheme of knife things. It only implies that settling on that knife has been the result of a long search or quest.

If some people get their trigger pulled by expensive, obscure art knives, that's cool. This is a General forum and certainly room for many different opinions and needs. Right? General doesn't mean, "for people who are into expensive obscure art knives only". Right?

 

[The Aflac Duck]

i'll let the other guys who posted "pedestrian" knives defend their choices and will only speak for myself.

I believe my understanding of the term "grail knife" is pretty consistent with how it is often used on the traditional, outdoor, wilderness and multitool sub-forums here on bladeforums and how it is often used on another traditional oriented knife forum. A standard definition may help...

Merriam-webster:


Oxford:


The way i typically see the term being used in the other forums is a knife or tool that somebody has found that suits their needs (including their aesthetic sensibilities) after trying many other options and typically over a long period of time.

For example, if somebody in the traditional forum says, "the gec beer-scout is my grail knife", the implication is that they have tried many other knives before this in their quest and have finally found "the right one" (for them). It doesn't imply that the gec beer-scout is particularly expensive or obscure, as it is it neither in the grand scheme of knife things. It only implies that settling on that knife has been the result of a long search or quest.

If some people get their trigger pulled by expensive, obscure art knives, that's cool. This is a general forum and certainly room for many different opinions and needs. Right? General doesn't mean, "for people who are into expensive obscure art knives only". Right?

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[Quiet]

I'll let the other guys who posted "pedestrian" knives defend their choices and will only speak for myself.

I believe my understanding of the term "grail knife" is pretty consistent with how it is often used on the Traditional, Outdoor, Wilderness and Multitool sub-forums here on Bladeforums and how it is often used on another traditional oriented knife forum. A standard definition may help...

Merriam-Webster:


Oxford:


The way I typically see the term being used in the other forums is a knife or tool that somebody has found that suits their needs (including their aesthetic sensibilities) after trying many other options and typically over a long period of time.

For example, if somebody in the Traditional forum says, "The GEC Beer-scout is my grail knife", the implication is that they have tried many other knives before this in their quest and have finally found "the right one" (for them). It doesn't imply that the GEC Beer-scout is particularly expensive or obscure, as it is it neither in the grand scheme of knife things. It only implies that settling on that knife has been the result of a long search or quest.

If some people get their trigger pulled by expensive, obscure art knives, that's cool. This is a General forum and certainly room for many different opinions and needs. Right? General doesn't mean, "for people who are into expensive obscure art knives only". Right?

All I got from this is "No, I really don't have the slightest idea what the term "Grail" means with regards to knives. And you don't need those anyway! Check out an Opinel and a Leatherman Squirt, that's all you need."

If we're being honest, you were trolling this thread, and you're doing it again now by pretending not to understand what the thread's intent was about.

 

[pinnah]

All I got from this is "No, I really don't have the slightest idea what the term "Grail" means with regards to knives.

My experience and understanding of the terms differs from yours and that upsets you. That is why you trolled this thread with your "pedestrian" post. I recommend you talk to the Mods and seek their guidance.

And you don't need those anyway! Check out an Opinel and a Leatherman Squirt, that's all you need."

Like most people in this thread, I posted a picture of my favorite "regardless of cost" EDC choice. I never advocated that others do likewise. The fact that I did this upsets you. Again, talk to the Mods and seek their guidance.

If we're being honest, you were trolling this thread, and you're doing it again now by pretending not to understand what the thread's intent was about.

No, I responded to a general, unqualified question in the General forum. Here's the OP...

If you could pick any knife in the world, regardless of Cost, as your EDC, which one would you pick?

MrTong didn't qualify his question by restricting it to tacticool knives, knives over $500 or purple knives. He only restricted it to EDC and asked what people would pick, "regardless of cost". My EDC choice costs $40 retail. I assure you, cost is not a restriction for me. I could easily spend 10, 20, 30 even 40 times as much today without blinking an eye. After nearly 50 years of carrying a knife, I arrived in a place that you don't like. Again, I recommend you speak to the Mods and seek their advice.

Until then, if you no longer want to see or hear what I carry, I recommend you just drop me into your "ignore list".

 

[Quiet]

My experience and understanding of the terms differs from yours and that upsets you. That is why you trolled this thread with your "pedestrian" post. I recommend you talk to the Mods and seek their guidance.



Like most people in this thread, I posted a picture of my favorite "regardless of cost" EDC choice. I never advocated that others do likewise. The fact that I did this upsets you. Again, talk to the Mods and seek their guidance.



No, I responded to a general, unqualified question in the General forum. Here's the OP...



MrTong didn't qualify his question by restricting it to tacticool knives, knives over $500 or purple knives. He only restricted it to EDC and asked what people would pick, "regardless of cost". My EDC choice costs $40 retail. I assure you, cost is not a restriction for me. I could easily spend 10, 20, 30 even 40 times as much today without blinking an eye. After nearly 50 years of carrying a knife, I arrived in a place that you don't like. Again, I recommend you speak to the Mods and seek their advice.

Until then, if you no longer want to see or hear what I carry, I recommend you just drop me into your "ignore list".

So, essentially you trolled this thread like you have trolled others. "I need a new woods fixed blade". You post that same pic. "I'm thinking of a new high end folder" Yep, there's your Opinel/Micra pic. "I need a laser gun for blowing up the moon" "Have you considered an Opinel and a Micra?"

It's absolutely hilarious at this point, just like you continuing to deflect as to why you posted in a grail thread. Anyway, I don't need to address you further. I can tell you that everyone here understands your game at this point. Have a good day.

Gents, disregard this minor derailing. Some great actually awesome knives posted in the last couple pages, let's keep that going. :thumbup:

 

[Danke42]

For example, if somebody in the Traditional forum says, "The GEC Beer-scout is my grail knife", the implication is that they have tried many other knives before this in their quest and have finally found "the right one" (for them). It doesn't imply that the GEC Beer-scout is particularly expensive or obscure, as it is it neither in the grand scheme of knife things. It only implies that settling on that knife has been the result of a long search or quest.

That's a terrible example. The beer scout is both expensive for what you get and obscure to purchase. You need to become a member of a secret society to be aware of when they're coming up for sale and woe to any member who can't sit by their computer all day long waiting for a sales announcement. Miss it and you miss out.

Good examples here in the exchange sell in minutes and even ones with 50% markup will sell in little time.

 

[pinnah]

That's a terrible example. The beer scout is both expensive for what you get and obscure to purchase. You need to become a member of a secret society to be aware of when they're coming up for sale and woe to any member who can't sit by their computer all day long waiting for a sales announcement. Miss it and you miss out.

Good examples here in the exchange sell in minutes and even ones with 50% markup will sell in little time.

Fair point.

Change the example to a Victorinox Executive. My point still stands. Grail knife also commonly means "the knife that perfectly suits my needs and tastes after years of searching and trying lots of other things."

 

[colubrid]

I already have it.
Large BG-42 Regular Sebenza.

Had plenty of customs, and still have some, have handled many at Blade since around year 2000, and I still prefer the Large Regular over anything I've ever held, or used.

I agree except I would choose the P Sebenza over the Regular BG42. The P has thicker titanium and longer blade length. But both would be my top picks.

 

[Bigfattyt]

Ken Erickson Sportsman's knife, like this one:



I don't think Gus is giving it up any time soon though

That's one of the patterns I was looking for!

That in tortoise she'll, or gold lip, or mop, or mammoth ivory.......

I like the blade size and shape better on the above knive. More substantial.

The one below shows great detail on the mop scales wirh the checkering!

 

[The Aflac Duck]

Fair point.

Change the example to a Victorinox Executive. My point still stands. Grail knife also commonly means "the knife that perfectly suits my needs and tastes after years of searching and trying lots of other things."

Obviously is isn't very common since you're the only person here that is defining it that way.

You can call a banana an apple if you'd like, but don't expect anyone to settle for bananas if you tell them you're bringing them apples:thumbup:

 

[K.O.D.]

So, essentially you trolled this thread like you have trolled others. "I need a new woods fixed blade". You post that same pic. "I'm thinking of a new high end folder" Yep, there's your Opinel/Micra pic. "I need a laser gun for blowing up the moon" "Have you considered an Opinel and a Micra?"

It's absolutely hilarious at this point, just like you continuing to deflect as to why you posted in a grail thread. Anyway, I don't need to address you further. I can tell you that everyone here understands your game at this point. Have a good day.

Gents, disregard this minor derailing. Some great actually awesome knives posted in the last couple pages, let's keep that going. [emoji106]

I concur.

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[pinnah]

Obviously is isn't very common since you're the only person here that is defining it that way.

Really? Then how do you explain all the people answering the OP's question with "pedestrian" knives? The following are just from the first 2 pages.

This unfortunate side bar on what "grail" means is a simple matter of Quiet (and perhaps you?) trying to hijack the generally stated question and generally answered by many to steer it towards expensive knives of his (and your?) personal tastes.

Version One - Spyderco Gayle Bradley, my EDC. Feels and cuts good for me. I think I paid about $130 for it.

If you have never seen and are not familiar with the Gayle Bradley, here is a great video by the designer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk0IxU-fuW4


If you have never been to a knife cutting contest you are missing some amazing cutting. Here is a video narrated by Gayle Bradley, one of the judges.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNYf56upj0M

The Benchmade mini-grip is my main current EDC, and really really close to perfect. If I had the cash, I would spring for a Southern Grind Spider monkey with carbon fiber scales, or a Benchmade 940 with green aluminum handle.

Lately I have been carrying a buck 505 lancer. It does everything I need for edc. I have carried everything from a mini grip, Keyshawn leek, Buck alpha, bm kulgera. The small knife is tough US made and disappears in your pocket. Just my 2 cents.


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Benchmade Crooked River...

...maybe almost tied up with my new Spyderco Military S110V

But neither is quite perfect. The search, as always, continues

Mine would be either a Spyderco Manix DLC with g10 scales or a Spyderco Kahr Arms Delica 4. Thanks for such an interesting thread.

Delica 4 or calypso Jr works for me.

If I could keep my Leatherman Wave, the knife I'd choose would be one of my GEC #72's.

 

[craytab]

I believe my understanding of the term "grail knife" is pretty consistent with how it is often used on the Traditional, Outdoor, Wilderness and Multitool sub-forums here on Bladeforums and how it is often used on another traditional oriented knife forum.

That is not where you are right now and most here don't agree. Notice how all the knives you posted cost 3 to +10 times what you and don joe posted? Much more reasonable. But hey, you don't have to agree and anyone else can disagree with you. Just like in every recommendation thread no matter what you recommend an opinel. People can disagree with those inaccurate contributions as well. :thumbup:

 

[Ratman79]

Don't feed the troll guys--let him get back under his bridge...

And to participate in the thread: my grail edc would be a Shirogorov of any kind

 

[pinnah]

That is not where you are right now and most here don't agree. Notice how all the knives you posted cost 3 to +10 times what you and don joe posted? Much more reasonable. But hey, you don't have to agree and anyone else can disagree with you. Just like in every recommendation thread no matter what you recommend an opinel. People can disagree with those inaccurate contributions as well. :thumbup:

See above. Lots of people in this thread posting production knives that cost $150 and less. Certainly you don't consider a $130 production knife a grail knife in the expensive, hard to find definition of the term, do you?

Perhaps you and Quiet could ask the OP to edit his subject line to add a lower price limit to help keep out the riff-raff.

 

[Danke42]

My grail would be one of the Emerson customs. A CQC-6 or a Persian. No flash though, matte finish bolsters and micarta slabs.

 

[Quiet]

Hey guys, I'm looking for something that could chop a two-by-four in half. Sooooo....Opinel and a Micra? Would that get the job done?

 

[Quiet]

My grail would be one of the Emerson customs. A CQC-6 or a Persian. No flash though, matte finish bolsters and micarta slabs.

The Persian was a grail of mine for a long time, and I recently was able to snap one up here on the Exchange. They are out there, and it's worth grabbing, I can tell you that.

 

[craytab]

See above. Lots of people in this thread posting production knives that cost $150 and less. Certainly you don't consider a $130 production knife a grail knife in the expensive, hard to find definition of the term, do you?

Perhaps you and Quiet could ask the OP to edit his subject line to add a lower price limit to help keep out the riff-raff.

See above. I noted the prices. For a lot of people there is a big difference between $10 and $130. A more reasonable grail. But I said that in my previous post that you didn't read yet quoted. Most people don't agree that a $10 knife sold everywhere isn't on the level of what most consider a grail knife. If you do, fine. No need to try to change everyone elses mind because you think a certain way that is completely out of the norm here.