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How bad is my batch ?

Kinda glad that 'internet research' wasn't a thing when polio was eradicated.

It would suck to have had parents that didn't 'believe' in the vax
 
ferider said:
God forbid there might be parents pro polio vaccine but against highly politicized mRNA boosters, especially for their kids. Medical/pharmaceutical errors are not new, internet or not (e.g., On drug recalls). The polarization is (“anti-vaxx”, “science denier”, etc.).
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I will never, ever, be able to fathom, how literally millions of supposedly "loving & nurturing" parents, have so blindly failed their OWN children, allowing them to be used as, human, guinea pigs/test subjects. It's just absolutely mind boggling, just how intellectually weak some people truly are deep down inside.

What I find to be the most astounding aspect in all of this insanity, in regards to this entire Pro/Anti discussion, is, that only 1 side is actually allowed to to participate in and be part of this discussion. The other side, has been completely and vilely shamed, threatened and their 1st Amendment, stripped/censored. Why is that?

And speaking of the subject at hand ("bad batches"), I would really like to know just how bad were the batches, that Doug, & Julie were given? Talk about Karma, and what you (they) wished for.....

^^ If there's 1 thing that I've learned here on BF's (thanks Spark Spark ), it's that: "Hatas gonna Hate!"

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Bodybuilding champ Doug Brignole got vaccinated, said "If I die, you were right." Brignole unexpectedly died at age 62 in prime health.
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Famous food blogger Julie Powell just died, and people are claiming that she died from vaccine-induced sudden death! Here are the facts!
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The truly sad part in all of this: Is that the truth is finally starting to trickle out and these staggering facts can no longer be suppressed or ignored. The truth in the end, will prevail. And literally Millions of the people here on Planet Earth, aren't going to be very happy, with the very poor decisions they were tactically coerced/shamed/frightened into making....

As I watched this Docu.....I was left wondering: Are all of these horrific discoveries (autopsies being performed at all of these Morgues, worldwide), perhaps related to all of these, "bad batches" people are discussing here? There sure does appear to be a whole LOT of "bad batches" that were handed out!
https://rumble.com/v1wac7i-world-premier-died-suddenly.html
 
knarfeng said:
Yes. And in this case, the "other side" has not been permitted to voice their side of the debate in the mainstream media or in primary social sites without being banned.
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That's the consequence of spreading misinformation.

Like the quote Movie unquote about all the athletes dying from the jab and that movie;s prime example being very much alive. Ruined the whole movie for me.

The current science is clear on both the benefit and the low risk of those vaccines. It's just like why NASA won't debate anyone who thinks the moon is made of green cheese. It's not that anyone isn't allowed to believe the moon isn't rock. They are just not going to be awarded equal time based on their opinion.
 
Danke42 said:
The current science is clear on both the benefit and the low risk of those vaccines.
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Reference to low long term risks please.

Ideally weighted against benefits for different age groups, and in particular children.
 
Danke42 said:
That's the consequence of spreading misinformation.

Like the quote Movie unquote about all the athletes dying from the jab and that movie;s prime example being very much alive. Ruined the whole movie for me.

The current science is clear on both the benefit and the low risk of those vaccines. It's just like why NASA won't debate anyone who thinks the moon is made of green cheese. It's not that anyone isn't allowed to believe the moon isn't rock. They are just not going to be awarded equal time based on their opinion.
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If you read the title, it's people who collapsed on the field, some of whom died. It isn't just deaths. It's the huge increase in the number of incidences of sudden heart problems in trained, fit athletes.

Only after the vaccinations started did the medical profession need to come up with the term, "SADS", "Sudden Adult Death Syndrome" because so many apparently healthy people were dying.
 
Danke42 said:
That's the consequence of spreading misinformation.

Like the quote Movie unquote about all the athletes dying from the jab and that movie;s prime example being very much alive. Ruined the whole movie for me.

The current science is clear on both the benefit and the low risk of those vaccines. It's just like why NASA won't debate anyone who thinks the moon is made of green cheese. It's not that anyone isn't allowed to believe the moon isn't rock. They are just not going to be awarded equal time based on their opinion.
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Further, who gets to determine what constitutes "misinformation".
Is it the same people who said,
>regular masks work to protect you from covid
>Vaccination will prevent you from getting covid
>If you are vaccinated you can't spread the virus, so you need to get vaccinated to protect grandma.
All of these statements have proven to be patently false. Yet those who knew better from the outset were not permitted to speak.
 
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ferider said:
Reference to low long term risks please.

Ideally weighted against benefits for different age groups, and in particular children.
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Try this link for overall death rates based on data from insurance companies
>Before the virus
>During the virus with no vaccine.
>Since the vaccines came out.
It's from insurance claims, so no child data.
rumble.com

CDC 'Excess Death' Reports, Insurance Data Sounding MAJOR Alarm Bells

🧶 EpochTV: What is Sudden Adult Death Syndrome 👉 https://ept.ms/3NptK6J Resources: 🔵 Sekur: https://ept.ms/3yW0Wul 🔵 Epoch TV: https://ept.ms/3NptK6J 🔵 US Excess Death Data: https://ept.ms/3U8EHMN htt
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knarfeng said:
Further, who gets to determine what constitutes "misinformation".
Is it the same people who said,
>regular masks work to protect you from covid
>Vaccination will prevent you from getting covid
>If you are vaccinated you can't spread the virus, so you need to get vaccinated to protect grandma.
All of these statements have proven to be patently false. Yet those who knew better from the outset were not permitted to speak.
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I can't give any credence to an argument built on a foundation of easily proven lies. In other words the guy they said jumped off the bench and died from a COVID shot but who wasn't dead. There is a whole story behind the false assertion that an out-sized number of athletes are suffering sudden death as a direct side effect of the vaccine. You can look at that and you'll see various sources so I would say to pick one you're familiar with to see the backstory.

There will never be a 100% absolute in a situation like this. This virus so far has been very bad both in the lethality and the rate it mutates at.

Masks do work. Some are better that others. The best thing would be a full Ebola suit but that's pretty inconvenient. The vaccines do work. There are countries that you can look at that had much more strict mandates and that minimized the number of cases.

If there was a body of facts that raided reasonable doubt by way of a wide range of scientiests in the field then I would feel less like it was a flat earth debate.
 
knarfeng said:
If you read the title, it's people who collapsed on the field, some of whom died. It isn't just deaths. It's the huge increase in the number of incidences of sudden heart problems in trained, fit athletes.

Only after the vaccinations started did the medical profession need to come up with the term, "SADS", "Sudden Adult Death Syndrome" because so many apparently healthy people were dying.
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Young fit athletes or middle aged healthy people jumping off the bench and dropping dead on the spot has been going on long before this vaccine. I know people it's happened to.

For the majority of those the cause has been and previously undetected cardiac defect, usually hereditary and so unexpected that no one around them is quick enough to start CPR.

So all I can say about that is if anyone sees it happen to someone start CPR, call 911, and find the nearest defibrillator.
 
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