How many of you use your folders for cutting meat when eating out?

I really don't care where I am eating, if I need some additional muscle from a pocket knife, I'll use it. I use my pocket knife frequently at picnics, but rarely in a restaurant. BUT I would love to see the looks on peoples faces if you pulled out a really large bowie blade out to cut your steak at a restaurant.
 
Let 'm try and take it from me. Last time someone grabbed a fry off my plate they almost lost an arm.
 
Nimravus Nut said:
If restaurant = public place
And people using a folder in restaurant = low class
then people using knives in public places = low class
Based on my equation it does make what you stated true. Although it may not be what you meant to say, but I'm just stating that you wording make me think this way.
Oh, fer crying out loud, anyone here heard of logic?

The above "equation" makes as much sense as this one:

if elephant == animal
and if monkey == animal
then monkey == elephant
 
hwyhobo said:
Oh, fer crying out loud, anyone here heard of logic?

The above "equation" makes as much sense as this one:

if elephant == animal
and if monkey == animal
then monkey == elephant

At least some of us have a clue. I was merely stating the act of pulling out a knife in certain situations was a low class thing to do, or whatever the proper term would be, bad manners, innappropriate, tacky, etc.

I never said, people who commit this act are low class people. However, some people here keep trying to spin it that way.
 
WarRaven said:
If you cower to not use your knife in company(Outside of work,hospitals,courthouses, bars and over> $100 a plate resturants), you do appear unstable to posses it to me and maybe others.
What are they(You, who ever) scared of, that they cant answer they carry one cause they use them when the need arises, like what ever they just witnessed you using it on.
WR

This is just a really immature and ignorant statement. It has nothing to do with being scared. It has to do with being respectful towards others. I don't cower to use my knife when I'm with family, or whoever. I choose to keep my knife away if pulling it out would embarass my family or friends. If you don't care if you embarass your company, than that's your choice, but I would think the majority of people would try not to embarass or make their family and friends feel akward.

One that pulls their knife at any opportunity when there are other options readily available (steak knife, scissors, etc) seems to be more unstable than someone who uses their knife with discrimination.

I use my knife every day, opening packages I get in the mail, taking care of things around the yard, etc. So why shouldn't I carry a knife? Because I don't pull it out and shove it in the face of everyone I come across and tell them it's everyone's right to carry a knife and use it for everything? :jerkit: :jerkit: :jerkit:
 
I have many time used by case to cut meat at restaurants. Stainless steel blade. As far as cleaning, when I,m done I wipe it off with a napkin, then at the earlyest oportunity I visit the men's room and wash it with hand soap. At home I never have to do this as I have decent cutlery. As far as the practice of using a pocket knife in a restaurant being low class, well I thing a restaurant with crappy utensils is pretty shabby in itself and should not be scandelized by my adaptation.
 
I wouldn't use any kind of knife at a restaurant. I mean, I wouldn't whip out my RAT-3 or an Endura to cut a steak. SAKs and small folders or pocket fixed blades (like a Mikro Canadian) are OK, IMHO, since they are a bit more low profile.

Meat in general is quite cheap in Argentina, you can get some amazing steak at relatively cheap restaurants which sometimes have crappy knives. A well honed pocket knife will allow you to enjoy your meal and, as long as you don't start flipping a 5" balisong around, nobody will give you a second look.
 
Originally posted by WarRaven
All i can think is, if you keep hiding them, your going to have to keep hiding them, forever.

My point exactly. I carry two knives and one is only for food.

P.S. I have once brought a sword in the trunk of my car going to the airport, it was during the few months after 9/11 when all the airport guards were carrying M-16 assualt rifles (forgot I had it in there after showing it to my friends), the two armed guards opened the trunk to check for suspecious items and they were surprised but never gave me a hard time... a few questions and I was on my way, lucky me.:rolleyes:
 
Well, it's been here long enough that I'll throw in my worthless 2 cents. -In my opinion, if you use a pocket knife to cut food in any decent restaurant before you have asked for a sharper knife, you are a GEEK. -If you ask for a sharp knife and they don't have one, -it's probably not a decent place to begin with, so screw em; wip it out (the knife) and eat.
 
Originally posted by WadeF
I never said, people who commit this act are low class people. However, some people here keep trying to spin it that way.

I'm not trying to spin anything, I'm just saying the statements you made makes people think that is the conclusion you're leading to. You said that you wouldn't use a folder in a restaurant because you think it's a low class thing to do, then if I sat in the next table and started to use my folder on my steak would you think that I'm low class? And wouldn't restaurants be classified as public place?

Originally Posted by hwyhobo
if elephant == animal
and if monkey == animal
then monkey == elephant

very funny hwyhobo.:rolleyes:

All I'm really trying to say is that everyone see the need to use a knife differently and it's our responsibility, as knife lover, our duty to use knives responsibly and try not to pull a "ninja" in public that makes others to stereotype against knife users. And personally, I think using a 3" folder in a restaurant is not a "ninja" thing to do.
 
Nimravus Nut said:
You said that you wouldn't use a folder in a restaurant because you think it's a low class thing to do, then if I sat in the next table and started to use my folder on my steak would you think that I'm low class? And wouldn't restaurants be classified as public place?

I wouldn't think you were low class at all. I would just think what you were doing was kinda tacky, not classy, bad manners, or whatever. However, I'd probably check out your knife and be glad to see another knife knut, even if I don't agree with using a pocket knife at the dinner table.

I never said people who use their knives in public are low class people.
 
I now understand your point, but still think what I'm doing is okay because I don't wave my knife in front of others. As a matter of fact, I usually hold my knife at a low angle, people would mistake it for a regular steak knife.
 
I do not order steaks in restaurants any more.
If I can't cut a steak with a serrated table knife (not a steak knife), then it isn't coming up to my expectations.
If I cook a steak, I don't need anything sharper than a butter knife.
I use my EDC to cut food at picnics, as plastic utensils suck, but not in restaurants, as plated will dull my knife, and I know the restaurant won't put an edge back on it for me, no matter how nicely I ask...
 
In a restaurant, no, I have not used my knife . .though it had crossed my mind a few times. But then again, when it comes to whipping out a personal blade amongst the sheeple and others, I always must consider reactions that I may get. It is only being respectful and I think shows some maturity to the fact that you understand that we live in a world shrouded in fear and many don't even understand the reason we love and carry knives on us

I live in L.A. so maybe I see it more than others, but people are really confused and at times and will question and show a certain uncomfortable ness when it comes to this issue.

There was a post up not too long ago about taking a knife ot work and using it only to have people there question the guy. We all know that this is part of the territory of caring knives. It scares people. It makes them wonder if we're unstable or insane. It makes them talk about you behind you back. They think it is unnecessary, then they scratch their head and think,

"Is he gonna go postal and slice my neck open!?"

It makes them nervous.

We ALL KNOW THIS.

But who cares. Lets whip it out anyway and use it for what we bought it for. At the same time, we maybe alienating people form us and something that is a great hobby, passion, or whatever it is to you. Have you ever recieved a weird look from someone at a newstand when you pick up a knife mag? I have . .and that's just a magazine!

We love them for the magnificent tool they are. For their beauty, simplicity, and functionality. Most of us are honorable, hardworking, loving men (women) who would do anything for their family and country . . including protect them . . .maybe even with the very knife others may be scared of.

We just love our knives and it is not a crime.

But they don't see this . .they just don't understand it. To some, all they think about is 911, where sharp instruments took a part in a tragedy or many other crimes that get reported on the news. It sucks, but is true.

My point is this. It is obviously up to the individual to do what he feels is right in a situation to use the knife he loves and carry. In my opinion, it is up to each of us to be responsible and use our common sense when doing so. Think to ourselves.

1) Could I endanger anyone by doing what I am doing?

2) Will this scare or make anyone uncomfortable?

3) Is it really worth it?

Now this is not a 10 min process . .I use every time I am around others here in L.A. and it take less then 1 second.

The question that always gets me is the 3rd one. Most of the time, if I believe that I will end up having to have a 5 minute convo about my knife and why I carry/used it . .then it isn't worth it (to me). Besides the conversation will 9 times out of ten end up with them either rolling their eyes:rolleyes: or me throwing a middle figure at them (literally or figuratively). So I either . .sadly . .leave it in my pocket . .or use it very discreetly.

I am not attacking anyone’s beliefs or telling them what they should do.

Restaurant (for me) no.

Pool side Barbeque with friends . .. you better look out, the knife is coming out . .and the meats gett'n puréed!:D

Ofcorse . . you could not give a ish to what anybody thinks!;)
 
This just reinforces the thought that I am so glad I live in the southland, Houston, Texas, to be exact. I have never had anyone ever question a knife of mine, or roll their eyes if I pick up a knive or gun magazine at the grocery store. It is so nice to live in the real world among real people.

Nolan
 
nolan raborn said:
This just reinforces the thought that I am so glad I live in the southland, Houston, Texas, to be exact. I have never had anyone ever question a knife of mine, or roll their eyes if I pick up a knive or gun magazine at the grocery store. It is so nice to live in the real world among real people.

Nolan

It's nice to know that you are not judged where you are from.

I'd be willing to bet that your crime rate, population, and city congestion are much lower too.

Keep in mind that we are all humans and people here are just reacting accordingly to the lifestyle that has evolved over the years. Texas would probable be no different if it would get a boost in population in a concentrated area.

I saw a documentary once on honey bees and their habitat. In this doc. they experimented with the bees honeycomb. What they did was mathematically sized each individual honeycomb hole down a fraction of what it was. They replaced their honeycomb home with the artificial one and took notice of something unbelievable.

The Bees were used to being extremely populated and concentrated in a small space where they worked and lived. They had demanding hard lives. They worked as a collective. But, each of these bees allotted themselves a small space for themselves. This was like their cubical. This had played a vital role in the bees lifestyle. It kept it all together. When they (scientist) changed their home by reducing the size, if even by a fraction, the bees knew. They knew something was wrong. They knew what was their own personal space. Now it is unknown why they did what happened next, but it was assumed that stress or something of the sort caused by this action led to a war between the bee hive.

They began to kill one another.

Something in nature that has worked for years was brought down by personal space. Something every creature or life form needs.

Texas - Los Angeles . . .. yeah.

Just wait .. at or rate of procreation . .we will all be overpopulated, and then maybe people will understand that no matter who you are or where your from . .it will affect you.
 
Stephan said:
I'd be willing to bet that your crime rate, population, and city congestion are much lower too.
Just for the record, Houston has a considerably higher crime rate than San Jose, CA, where I live, and if we averaged all the towns around San Jose that comprise Silicon Valley, the crime rate here would be even lower.
 
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