How public are you with your knives?

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Hi there! I live in Caracas, Venezuela, which is the most dangerous city in the world. I must be very discrete with my edc, always in my pocket and the shirt covering the pocket clip. Deploying a knife here can have three consequences:
a) somebody will shoot you.
b) a burglar will steal your knife at gun point and then shoot you
c) the police will confiscate your knife and take you to jail, or just shoot you.
In Venezuela knife law are very confused, a cop will confiscate your knife even a small sak.
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There's no reason to take a hostile attitude towards people who see a knife as a weapon. A little diplomacy and rational thought go much further in opening minds, I use my SAK mostly in public people seem to like them no matter their background.
 
I'm not in a public setting most of the time but when I am , I try not to draw any attention. Legal or not. A Buck knife in a belt sheath for example wouldn't draw attention in town as long as you didn't pull it out.

This. I don't go out of my way to appease the local hoplophobes, but I'm not stupid about knife use in public either. I've carried a variety of folders either clipped to my pocket, in my pocket, or on my belt, and have never had a problem. If I know that I am going to a place/area that has a STRONG aversion to knives, I carry a traditional.

FYI, I have used my knives to cut things, in public, and have never had a problem because I didn't make a show of the whole drawing and cutting action.
 
Most people don't notice the buck folding 419 on my belt, or the Spyderco clip on my pocket. Being older with gray beard and hair does help. I carry a fixed blade in rural areas and it draws little attention. I like fixed blades, and for that reason I usually carry one during colder weather on the belt under my jacket and no issues. I remember one time taking off my jacket to try on a new shirt and I heard a gasp and the female clerk clenched her throat when she saw the fixed blade. I just gave her a reassuring smile and a few kind words and she had a good laugh. Its more about your personality and demeanor than what people see on your belt.
 
Hi there! I live in Caracas, Venezuela, which is the most dangerous city in the world. I must be very discrete with my edc, always in my pocket and the shirt covering the pocket clip. Deploying a knife here can have three consequences:
a) somebody will shoot you.
b) a burglar will steal your knife at gun point and then shoot you
c) the police will confiscate your knife and take you to jail, or just shoot you.
In Venezuela knife law are very confused, a cop will confiscate your knife even a small sak.

Wow. Venezuela cities are not friendly places with all the political upheaval.
 
These days I carry a Crooked River Benchmade... The knife itself is not threatening by any means in the pocket. However I am smart enough to not to share it within the office just because.... Even with knife enthusiasts if they ask what I am carrying I bring it out and often some eyes drop.

For me it's a tool that can be used for defense but I love using this knife for food prep, funny thing is that it is excellent at this.

Always be hornorable to you audience, many times they do not understand or see your interests the same.....TD
 
I don't like the term sheeple, because it's disrespectful. QUOTE]

More disrespectful than those who consider you some kinda axe murderer because you carry a knife....OF ANY KIND....AND AREN'T SHY ABOUT SAYING AS MUCH? I think that sheeple is incredibly kind, considering the way they think of us knife owners. I believe them to be ignorant, unrealistic and ....OK...I'll stop at stupid. Unless stupid actually means....has no clue. The rest of you can give them all the slack you like...since they clearly give knife aficionados NO slack of any kind....so there ya go. SHEEPLE!!!! .... because they deserve it. Dumbasses! LOL

Exactly 👍
 
I just wanna say that when people talk about discretely using knives, they don't mean hiding the fact that they're using their knife for fear of getting dirty looks.
They just mean calmly readying their knife then doing what needs to be done and outing it away, and using common sense not to draw a large fixed blade or flicking / flinging open a large folder near a crowd of people.
Your knife doesn't have to be a classic non threatening little slipjoint, but we should just use common sense.
It sucks that in this day and age we have to think about our knife use sometimes but we do.
While not everyone is a steeple, if someone gets freaked out by a responsible and respectful knife user I think it's okay to call them a sheeple as their hysteria, fear, and dirty looks are just as disrespectful or worse than calling them.a sheeple.
 
I just wanna say that when people talk about discretely using knives, they don't mean hiding the fact that they're using their knife for fear of getting dirty looks.
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Agreed. Until I ran into this question here (which is a bit silly to begin with) I don't think it ever even occurred to me, and I've been carrying a knife virtually every day of my life, since I was 6 years old.
 
I usually carry multiple cutting tools. I will use a knife appropriate for the task at hand. If I'm doing something g that will put a lot of stress on a blade, I'm going to grab for my izula. For a general cutting task that can be accomplished easily, I'm going to use a SAK or a leatherman. I'm not going to use a blade that's not going to do the work I need just to appease people. But I'm also not going to purposely use more knife than necessary as I don't want to draw undo attention to myself.
 
Agreed. Until I ran into this question here (which is a bit silly to begin with) I don't think it ever even occurred to me, and I've been carrying a knife virtually every day of my life, since I was 6 years old.

My dad sometimes likes to stupidly flick his knife open just for fun ( sometimes in public ) and has had dirty looks a few time's, so it has occurred to me before 😁
Before that it never would've crossed my mind either.
 
I'm 46, and I've been carrying and using knives in public for most of my life. For several years it was a Buck 110 in a belt sheath. I've also been carrying folders clipped to my pocket for well over a decade. And I've been openly carrying a fixed-blade for over a decade in urban San Diego. And I've never had any negative responses from anyone, neither citizens, business owners, or cops.


If I need to use a knife in public, I consider my surroundings first, and consider just how much I really need to use a knife. This takes about a half-second of thought. If I feel that it is appropriate to use whatever knife I'm carrying, then I use it, like a normal person would use a knife. When in public, or around people you don't know, it only makes sense to consider your surroundings before pulling out a knife.


I think if a person appears to be a "normal", sane, rational person, and they are using their knife for a normal purpose, that the vast majority of people would not be frightened, including non-knife people. I think that most of the general public would look very differently on someone who pulls out a knife to cut an apple, or cut some twine to secure a load to their car, then they would a person who is talking gibberish, staring crazily at them, and licking their knife. I believe that if you act like a "normal" person, you'll be treated like a "normal" person.


And since people are inclined to not be confrontational and mind their own business, that makes them less likely to voice any objections or criticisms of you carrying or using a knife in public.


Of course there are people out there who are irrational in their fear of knives and the people who carry them. But that's life. There will always be irrational people. I don't live my life or make my decisions to try and satisfy other peoples irrationality. The simple fact is- you can't satisfy irrational people, because they are irrational.


As far as the social aspect of this topic, I don't do "social media", I don't wear knife related apparel, I don't start talking to strangers I see carrying knives, and I don't go around starting knife-related conversations. I'm not saying those things are bad, they just aren't me. If I want to talk knives I come here. I might talk knives with people in person depending on the person, the setting, and whether or not I have other things to do.


I don't feel the need to be "THE KNIFE GUY" when I'm among other people. I don't feel the need to draw attention to the fact that I carry a knife, that I like knives, and that I am someone who recognizes and appreciates the value of carrying a cutting tool. And I don't feel the need to preach the value of knives to others or lecture them on how silly it is to be afraid of knives, or how unprepared people are who don't carry knives. A knife is merely a tool I carry. Carrying a knife is not my identity, it's not how I define myself, and it's not my political affiliation. And it's not my mission in life to convert others and make them "knife people".
 
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There are cities in Texas with some of the worst knife laws in the Country. ;)

No, there are not.

For nearly a year now, since our pre-emption law was passed, signed an put into effect, thanks to Knife Rights work during the last legislative session, no city or county may pass laws more restrictive than state law. Period. Restrictions may be passed on carrying knives in specific areas - i.e., schools, court houses, hospitals. Knife rights got the laws changed THREE years ago allowing balisongs and switch blades to be carried in public. The only restrictions we have is knives need to be single edged and have a blade length of 5.5" or less. Period.

Austin is not really part of Texas. I understand it was transplanted from Massachusetts. :D

Austin may be more liberal than other areas of the state, but Austin has NEVER had any type of knife laws other than state law and bans on carrying knives in court houses and schools. And the school districts themselves, not the cities, that are the ones implementing knife restrictions in/on their properties.

For the OP's question, I carry whatever legal knives I want to when out and about, even when I go to that liberal hotbed, Austin, 3x or 4x per week.

I carry a small (one 3" and one 3.25") folder in each of my front pockets and a pair of sub-5.5" fixed blades, LH/RH open carry every day. True EDCs. A pair of Kabar shorties or a pair of Kabar 1232s. If I need to go into a court house or police station (not because police stations ban knives - they don't - I just don't care to irritate rookies who don't know better), I take the knives out and leave them in my vehicle. I leave the sheaths on my belt.

The comments I USUALLY receive are - "Nice knives.", "Why 2?" "What are they?" A couple of times in police stations or courthouses, I have been asked by LEOs - "Where are your knives?"

From th general public, I occasionally get "Is that legal?" to which I answer "You're not from Texas are you?"

I look forward to the day when the blade type and length requirements go away (hopefully, during the legislative session next year), where I don't have to change out my longer knives (Kabar 1217s, Western W49s, Becker BK7s/9s/20s/21s, Ontario SPXs) for legal carry versions when I leave the farm while working.
 
I'm 46, and I've been carrying and using knives in public for most of my life. For several years it was a Buck 110 in a belt sheath. I've also been carrying folders clipped to my pocket for well over a decade. And I've been openly carrying a fixed-blade for over a decade in urban San Diego. And I've never had any negative responses from anyone, neither citizens, business owners, or cops.


If I need to use a knife in public, I consider my surroundings first, and consider just how much I really need to use a knife. This takes about a half-second of thought. If I feel that it is appropriate to use whatever knife I'm carrying, then I use it, like a normal person would use a knife. When in public, or around people you don't know, it only makes sense to consider your surroundings before pulling out a knife.


I think if a person appears to be a "normal", sane, rational person, and they are using their knife for a normal purpose, that the vast majority of people would not be frightened, including non-knife people. I think that most of the general public would look very differently on someone who pulls out a knife to cut an apple, or cut some twine to secure a load to their car, then they would a person who is talking gibberish, staring crazily at them, and licking their knife. I believe that if you act like a "normal" person, you'll be treated like a "normal" person.


And since people are inclined to not be confrontational and mind their own business, that makes them less likely to voice any objections or criticisms of you carrying or using a knife in public.


Of course there are people out there who are irrational in their fear of knives and the people who carry them. But that's life. There will always be irrational people. I don't live my life or make my decisions to try and satisfy other peoples irrationality. The simple fact is- you can't satisfy irrational people, because they are irrational.


As far as the social aspect of this topic, I don't do "social media", I don't wear knife related apparel, I don't start talking to strangers I see carrying knives, and I don't go around starting knife-related conversations. I'm not saying those things are bad, they just aren't me. If I want to talk knives I come here. I might talk knives with people in person depending on the person, the setting, and whether or not I have other things to do.


I don't feel the need to be "THE KNIFE GUY" when I'm among other people. I don't feel the need to draw attention to the fact that I carry a knife, that I like knives, and that I am someone who recognizes and appreciates the value of carrying a cutting tool. And I don't feel the need to preach the value of knives to others or lecture them on how silly it is to be afraid of knives, or how unprepared people are who don't carry knives. A knife is a tool I carry, it's not my identity, or how I define myself,. Nor is it my mission in life to convert others and make them "knife people".

Great post. Precisely my viewpoint as well. Thanks.
 
I'm a lefty, I live in Europe and I pretty much only carry autos. No one has ever paid any attention to my knives whether in the supermarket, at a fest, or during a safety/DUI check point. IMHO the person invokes the reaction not the knife.
 
Great post. Precisely my viewpoint as well. Thanks.
Thank you.

Something else I meant to touch upon is- When I do pull out a knife in public to cut something, I don't look around to check and see if people are having a negative reaction. If I feel it's appropriate to use my knife, then I use it, and that's that. I'm not doing anything illegal, I'm not acting irresponsibly, and I'm not trying to frighten people, so I don't feel guilty or ashamed, like some sort of criminal, and look around to see if I've been "caught" or if people are expressing disapproval.

I think there are many in the knife community who suffer from some kind of persecution complex- they assume that the general public will freak-out at the sight of their knife, or that they will encounter disapproval from others for carrying or using a knife, or that someone will call the cops. They assume that the general public is against them.

I don't know how many times I've seen people on this forum tell a story like- "I pulled my knife out to cut something and this guy was just staring at me. What an idiot. Why are people so freaked-out by a knife". And I think to myself "Relax. Maybe the guy likes knives and was just admiring your knife or trying to figure out what kind it was". Why do people assume that someone looking at them is a negative reaction to their knife?

I think if knife-people go around looking for disapproval and negative reactions from others, that they WILL find them, even if they aren't really there. Sometimes the disapproval is all in the mind of the person carrying the knife.

I say- Think about how and where you use your knife, but don't overthink it.
 
I always have a gso 4.1 openly on my belt and a clipped knife/ multi tool in each pocket...i could care less what anyone else thinks or feels about my knife...don't like it don't look at it.

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I really don't care if the sheeple get their panties in a twist because I have a knife and use it. I wear a fixed blade on my belt all the time and carry a SAK and a large folder, except when I dresses up, then I nix the fixed blade. Sometimes I open carry a tomahawk, let the sheeple chew on that.

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I'm obviously a "knife nut," but if I saw someone carrying a tomahawk around a city or in a store, I'm going to look at that person strangely. In the woods or on a farm, it probably has a purpose. But have no idea why someone would carry a tomahawk in any other scenario.


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