How would you describe the condition of this knife?

[Piper Maru]

Promptly reverse the Trade without comment or argument. Your response here seems slightly belligerent, misleading and argumentative- just a disinterested 3rd parties observation.

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? I AGREED to the trade back, "The rules clearly state, a trade is not over until both parties are satisfied", he clearly is not happy, so I traded back, but I wanted the facts first. I wanted to see what was wrong. Their is no maybe, he IS going to get his knife back, no questions asked.

 

[BePrepared]

? I AGREED to the trade back, "The rules clearly state, a trade is not over until both parties are satisfied", he clearly is not happy, so I traded back, but I wanted the facts first. I wanted to see what was wrong. Their is no maybe, he IS going to get his knife back, no questions asked.

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[Piper Maru]

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I mean, he first sent the email clearing stating he no longer wanted the triple action, but I wanted to see why. Also he showed me the pictures and I saw how bad it was and I immediately agreed to a trade back. I dont see how covering my bases is wrong. Other then sending the knife that I should have been better educated on, not sure what else went wrong here.

 

[braillediver]

It's a done deal so please wrap it up, put it behind you and move on- otherwise you might come across as "slightly belligerent and argumentative".

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? I AGREED to the trade back, "The rules clearly state, a trade is not over until both parties are satisfied", he clearly is not happy, so I traded back, but I wanted the facts first. I wanted to see what was wrong. Their is no maybe, he IS going to get his knife back, no questions asked.

 

[au5t3n5]

That's really pretty funny.

Sometimes there may be differing opinions on if a knife's condition matches the description.

But that one is not even close to the description.

Couldn't have said that better myself. I don't understand how you can put up listings describing a knife like that unless you are either:

- blind
- need new glasses
- trying to sell a knife you don't own
- lying
- being a general (insert potty words here)

Edit: Seems like Piper is trying to make this fine, so I guess its not so bad... but still, people ought to double check their knives and put up to date pictures for all to see before trying to trade/sell...

 

[Piper Maru]

It's a done deal so please wrap it up, put it behind you and move on- otherwise you might come across as "slightly belligerent and argumentative".

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I sent him a email already saying I will trade back, thats what I am saying, I dont get why people keep asking me about it. I am a trust worthy person (proven by my record here), and my 1932 transactions on ebay that all have resulted in great feedback.

Also I agreed to trade back long before I read this thread, I was told about this thread from a friend, I had know idea this was here (as I stated already).

I have been trying to move on, with it.

 

[Chris_Himself]

Just do the tradeback, offer up a little cash for the guy's trouble and shipping and put it behind you. We all mess up sometimes being optimistic in our gear, this certainly won't prevent you from trading in the future and I was more than happy with my end of our trade.

Don't worry this won't scar your presence here, just do right by everybody and handle it.

 

[Piper Maru]

Just do the tradeback, offer up a little cash for the guy's trouble and shipping and put it behind you. We all mess up sometimes being optimistic in our gear, this certainly won't prevent you from trading in the future and I was more than happy with my end of our trade.

Don't worry this won't scar your presence here, just do right by everybody and handle it.

Already been handled.

Cheers.

 

[ABTOMAT-47]

I'd like to clarify a couple things here. First, I didn't have any intention of getting personal in this thread. I was just asking a question, and if Piper Maru hadn't posted I wasn't going to say anything else about the deal. I'm not that kind of person.

But since we're all in here now, I'll clarify the second thing. I sent five emails about the condition of the TA and asking to reverse the trade, including photos, and at no point did you agree there was anything wrong with it. Instead I got "I did not perceive [the condition] as unusual so I guess it did not register with me." and "... you clearly dont like anything about the triple action." I also appreciate the offers of other knives, but not when I asked four times in a row for my Spyderco back.

As long as we get our respective knives back I'm willing to just chalk it up to a simple mistake and leave it at that. And despite what Chris says, I'm not interested in extra compensation or anything but my original knife.

 

[Chris_Himself]

And despite what Chris says, I'm not interested in extra compensation or anything but my original knife.

Good man.

 

[jujigatame]

I dont see how covering my bases is wrong. Other then sending the knife that I should have been better educated on, not sure what else went wrong here.

Nothing else need go wrong other than not knowing what you're dealing with for a deal to go belly up and leave you with an unhappy party on the other end. It's one of the most significant parts of the process and a continuous learning exercise.

I'm incredulous that you called the knife anything approaching "never used" considering you referred to "the not great configuration of the knife in the first place." Think of what you as a buyer would infer about a knife when a seller calls it never used. I imagine it does not compare favorably to the condition of the Triple Action.

 

[Piper Maru]

I'd like to clarify a couple things here. First, I didn't have any intention of getting personal in this thread. I was just asking a question, and if Piper Maru hadn't posted I wasn't going to say anything else about the deal. I'm not that kind of person.

But since we're all in here now, I'll clarify the second thing. I sent five emails about the condition of the TA and asking to reverse the trade, including photos, and at no point did you agree there was anything wrong with it. Instead I got "I did not perceive [the condition] as unusual so I guess it did not register with me." and "... you clearly dont like anything about the triple action." I also appreciate the offers of other knives, but not when I asked four times in a row for my Spyderco back.

As long as we get our respective knives back I'm willing to just chalk it up to a simple mistake and leave it at that. And despite what Chris says, I'm not interested in extra compensation or anything but my original knife.

Like I said, I just wanted to make sure everything was clear, and I never once ignored you asking for the knife back, I just wanted the information asked for (which you gave), granted even if you hadn't I still would have traded you back, but I as I stated I like to cover my bases. Although you have nothing to worry about, as you will be getting your knife back.

Also part of my problem was, I did not view my knife or the knife I was trading for to be all that valuable so I guess I had a lower standard then I usually do. That being said, that will never happen again. Learning experience.

 

[ABTOMAT-47]

Also part of my problem was, I did not view my knife or the knife I was trading for to be all that valuable so I guess I had a lower standard then I usually do. That being said, that will never happen again. Learning experience.

My knife was worth somewhat less than yours. You're saying you would have been OK if it showed up in worse condition?

 

[singularity35]

@Piper Maru: You gave a bad description(whether inadvertent or not) of an item you were trading. Accept that, make it right, and move on dude.

 

[Windex_]

I dont think i would trust someone that says its unused 3 times in 2 sentences. That is garbage get your knife back.

 

[Piper Maru]

My knife was worth somewhat less than yours. You're saying you would have been OK if it showed up in worse condition?

... I said, I just had the wrong way of looking at it, I have never done a "lower" end trade before, my exceptions for it were wrongly lower.

This is to almost everyone except ABTOMAT, people keep saying I need to move on, when they keep repeating what someone else has said on page 1 of this thread, which in turn if I care to respond makes me say the same thing over.

@Piper Maru: You gave a bad description(whether inadvertent or not) of an item you were trading. Accept that, make it right, and move on dude.

I keep saying, I made a mistake, I have honed up to it, and I am returning the knife. Not sure how your post at this point in this thread is relevant. Some of you are acting as if I am denying something.

 

[bones555]

I don't understand why pictures weren't exchanged before the trade took place. I can't be the only one that doesn't trade anything without seeing it first.

 

[Piper Maru]

I don't understand why pictures weren't exchanged before the trade took place. I can't be the only one that doesn't trade anything without seeing it first.

This was my fault. I did not have pictures of the knife at the time (which I explained) but again I felt the knife was acceptable (should not have thought that). I always send pictures for a trade, to avoid things like this but like I said, I just kinda got sloppy on this one. It has been fixed now though, so its all good.

 

[au5t3n5]

This was my fault. I did not have pictures of the knife at the time (which I explained) but again I felt the knife was acceptable (should not have thought that). I always send pictures for a trade, to avoid things like this but like I said, I just kinda got sloppy on this one. It has been fixed now though, so its all good.

Acceptable is not the same as "unused."

 

[Piper Maru]

Acceptable is not the same as "unused."

I am using the word acceptable now, as it was traded to me as unused, clearly it was flipped a lot (also I say "clearly", as I did not really bother to fully check over the knife, for instance I did not notice the screw was missing until he said it). Like I said I got this knife under some really weird circumstances (which might explain a lot, but this thread is not the place to say said circumstances or atleast I dont think it is).

As I said in the last posts this is the first time I have ever done something like this (as in mess up on a trade, much less this badly).

Get every ones point but I dont know if this kinda got blown out of proportion or if this is a normal response.

Its unanimous that the condition of the triple action is not acceptable (I agree, I would have liked to have noticed this sooner), this has been fixed. Not sure why this thread keeps on going (I realize I keep responding, but their is something new to respond to).