I bet they'd sell if anyone could figure out how to buy them....

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Rat Finkenstein said:
You still overlook the fact that there have been plenty of blades available with minimal effort.
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I think "minimal" effort is a stretch here. Judging by your join date, and your post count, I would say you spend a LOT of time here. What may be minimal effort to you, may not be minimal to someone who has a busy life, and a variety of other hobbies and interests outside of here.
 
brianNH said:
I think "minimal" effort is a stretch here. Judging by your join date, and your post count, I would say you spend a LOT of time here. What may be minimal effort to you, may not be minimal to someone who has a busy life, and a variety of other hobbies and interests outside of here.
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My point exactly. They have an excellent product, no denying that. Jumping through hoops, being on a website at a certain time to send an email to possibly be put in a raffle to maybe be allowed the privilege of throwing your money down. Screw that noise.

I am just an average guy, don't have time to be in some rat cheese wheel BS, just want to buy a knife.

I said my piece and now I'm taking my dollars elsewhere.
 
9mm4me said:
The answer is simple. I shouldn't have to. If there is a company that makes a product, I shouldn't have to seek out that product on a secondary market at inflated prices.
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So it is a simple case of entitlement.

That is- you feel entitled to get your way. (in spite of reality)

This screwed up mentality is one of the things that is wrong with this world.

I have never been wanting for Swamp Rat knives. Then again, I never sat back and waited for them to come to me on their own. I have also never paid inflated prices. I guess it pays to actually try to get something you want.

I can tell you exactly what you are "entitled to", it rhymes with "jack spit" :D

Now go and find a knife if you want it, or howl in anger and shake your fist at this unfair reality we live in.
 
Eric Isaacson said:
Check in once a week on either forums and you'll be up-to-date on everything in minutes. If you don't care to do that it is fine, but let's be honest it isn't that big of a deal. Or you could just check into the Company Store periodically to see what's in stock www.shop.ratknives.com
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That is barely an option. Once things hit the store they are gone in minutes. Until the people with any type of authority get a grip on reality, nothing is going to change. For the better that is. And like I said before. They are great knives. It's a shame everything else is not up to par.
 
brianNH said:
I think "minimal" effort is a stretch here. Judging by your join date, and your post count, I would say you spend a LOT of time here. What may be minimal effort to you, may not be minimal to someone who has a busy life, and a variety of other hobbies and interests outside of here.
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I do spend alot of time here, and as a result I know how announcements are made, and extravaganzaaas are posted.

If you only checked the main pages of the forums once or twice a week for a couple minutes, you would be able to catch up on everything that is going on.

If that isn't "minimal effort" then what is?

(maybe doing absolutely nothing, then loudly complaining about the unfair world every few months?)
 
Rat Finkenstein said:
I do spend alot of time here, and as a result I know how announcements are made, and extravaganzaaas are posted.

If you only checked the main pages of the forums once or twice a week for a couple minutes, you would be able to catch up on everything that is going on.

If that isn't "minimal effort" then what is?

(maybe doing absolutely nothing, then loudly complaining about the unfair world every few months?)
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Just because your someone's lapdog doesn't mean I have to be. You obviously don't have a problem with the way things are done. I do. In a capitalist society, I shouldn't have to twist someone's arm for them to sell me something. They are competing for my dollar, not me for theirs.

Some of you are so brainwashed its not even funny.

With that I bid you farewell. You rats won't have to worry about me stirring the pot anymore. Keep slaving away at your keyboard waiting for some scraps to be thrown out like obedient little consumers. It seems to be working well enough for you.
 
9mm,

I agree with your original point, update the website and get the information out there. Unfortunately, it degraded into an attack of both Swamp Rat and the forumites here. Many good causes have been lost because of how they are addressed.

I understand your concerns and I, too, hope that these changes get made soon. In the meantime, the world is full of choices and it sounds like you've made yours.

Best wishes.
 
9mm4me said:
Just because your someone's lapdog doesn't mean I have to be. You obviously don't have a problem with the way things are done. I do. In a capitalist society, I shouldn't have to twist someone's arm for them to sell me something. They are competing for my dollar, not me for theirs.

Some of you are so brainwashed its not even funny.

With that I bid you farewell. You rats won't have to worry about me stirring the pot anymore. Keep slaving away at your keyboard waiting for some scraps to be thrown out like obedient little consumers. It seems to be working well enough for you.
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Wow... win friends with that attitude?


(Actually just saving this post for posterity...)
 
Wow what fun we're all having :thumbup: I have been buying Busse and SR for only a few months. I've gotten all of my steel from this forum, from the "for sale" page (with the exception of two), including a new camp tramp for $200 and a battle rat for $180. This is not overpriced in my opinion. It took very little effort on my part. I just scored a very nice Busse after missing the start of the most recent extravaganzaaa by 2 days and still got the knife I wanted. I got a War Boar within 2 weeks of ordering it, and a Hell Razor in about that same time. I have more Infi and SR101 than I know what to do with, and I've only bought knives that I felt were reasonably priced.

If I want a particular knife, I usually find it within a short period of time. Maybe I just lead a charmed life :D

Eric, you guys do a fine job, and on YOUR terms. That's also how I do business. People come to me for my product, and I decide how much to charge them and when they will get it. I don't go begging people to do business with me, and that's because there are 10 people who want my product for every one person who might complain. Busse and SR are the same way.
 
There is no excuse for the web site. That is down right piss poor business. A few things on there they stopped making a LOOOONG time ago. Yet, they are still there which in turn misleads people. It is truely a joke that unfortunately is not funny. Again a down right shame!
 
9mm4me said:
In a capitalist society, I shouldn't have to twist someone's arm for them to sell me something. They are competing for my dollar, not me for theirs.
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It's all true, folks.... He hit it on the head.


If you're not a collector, chances are you're not willing to hunt down a purchase.

Not that there is something wrong with the way Swamp Rat does business, it's just different, and not what 99% of consumers expect. So they shop elsewhere.

The 1%'ers are content, and Swamp Rat is content, so be it.

Stay sharp,
desmobob
 
This sure is a spirited thread.

Many interesting comments and I've read them all.
I do understand that the website needs updating and I appreciate the comments on this. However, this thread has really moved much past this and has moved dangerously close to personal attacks.

9mm4me,
I'm sorry you feel that you have to be someone's "lapdog". If you feel your patience has run out then I'll be sorry to see you leave the Swamp, however the M6 is being shipped to me tomorrow to be in the Company Store as soon as it arrives. If you don't like that one we will be starting another model to be in stock soon.


:D:D
 
9mm4me said:
With that I bid you farewell. You rats won't have to worry about me stirring the pot anymore. Keep slaving away at your keyboard waiting for some scraps to be thrown out like obedient little consumers. It seems to be working well enough for you.
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9mm4me - You bring up some good points. I expressed some of my frustrations earlier in the thread as did others. I can only hope that good will come of this. Others such as ratfinkenstein, while slightly biased, gave advice and shared his experience on purchasing and he has brought up some good points as well.

I think there are many of us who are frustrated that buying what we want may not always be so easy, especially when the supply cant meet the demand. I believe in the quality of the products we are discussing here and I believe the people who sell them to be good people that are well deserving of my hard earned money. I have no doubt that Eric and the folks at SRKW aren't working their tails off to make things better for us. I think it would be worth you sticking around and giving it a chance.
 
brianNH said:
I have no doubt that Eric and the folks at SRKW aren't working their tails off to make things better for us. .
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Hey, I think I am working my tail off ;)

Sorry I had to quote you before you caught it, this thread needs a little humor

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Paddling_man said:
If you ever meet them, I'll bet you agree they seem happy. Even Eric seems happy... well, kind of. ;)
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Hey?! I thought this was funny!!
 
Hey... He signed on this ship. Let him take it!;)

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One other thing I just wanted to comment on. The term "clique" was used in this thread to describe the forumites, the Rat's in general. I do not think this is at all correct. A clique is generally defined as a group that is exclusive, only allowing certain people to join in.

We do not fit that definition. We are just a group of friends that are hanging out that have the same interests (high performance knives and generally humor ;) ) There is no entrance fee, there is no minimum number of knives that you need to buy (heck you don't even need to own any knives to hang out with us). Many of the people on this forum I have never met but I still consider them to be friends, not friends because they agree with me, but friends because sometimes they kick me in the nuts....okay butt ;) when I need it.

The only thing that is really needed is the ability not to be a jerk, other than that we are pretty easy to get along with. No need to agree with our procedures, you don't have to like all of our knives, you don't have to agree with me at all, just be open to being nice and trying not to be a jerk. Hang out with us for a while and become part of the family, or just post once in a while we don't care. This is why some of the posts become so spirited, friends don't like to see their friends treated poorly.

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Man, this consumer can't wait for a chance at the new line...or any other scraps that I choose to buy. I am so brainwashed I buy great knives and put effort into getting new ones rather than just buy the crap that is readily available. Eric, I too was confused about how it worked, then I learned how to work the system in 2 short months I have bought, sold and traded about 15 Rats and keep the ones I like. It doesnt take much to get what you want, just a little effort. You can't appreciate it if you could get any one of them anytime you wanted. These are great knives from a great company and the knifenuts know it, just look around and you can get just about anyone you want.
 
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