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Yeah jill, you are asking too many questions and not taking any names. You are starting to take things too literally, in fact, literal and liberal are almost spelled the same......makes me wonder what you are doing on a knife forum? :p
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What he would need to deal with the horrible event he claims happened to him is a firearm, not a knife. I just don't think a 14 year old boy running about alone in a large city where he gets robbed, beaten and witnessed gang related shootings is going to increase his survival odds by whipping out a blade. A 14 year old in today's crime ridden cities roaming about alone seems a little much to me. If he really is around this much danger maybe mom should use her parental right and rein the boy in.
Since he can't carry a firearm then maybe he should try to lessen being in those places. His mother must have to go about in at least some of the same places he does, by the very nature of living there-So how does she deal with her own protection? Maybe Mom just doesn't tend to go where her young lad does. Would you want your 14 year old going out and about a large crime ridden city where you don't go, on a regular basis? Would you advise them to carry a blade and think that is going to keep them alive and well?
 
All you folks recommending a knife are just plain wrong. Liberal this liberal that. Give me a fuking break. The kid is 14, he has no business what so ever carrying a knife for s.d. He is a big kid he says well my 16 year old is big and he doesn't carry a knife and he goes into the "hood" all the time to visit his girlfriend, and if any of you people know anything about Roch. NY it is the murder capital of NYS. He just doesn't leave her house when he gets there.

Also his mother recommending him carrying a small knife for s.d. but he wants a big knife that is high speed? Thats bullshit too. You can only draw a pocket knife so fast. He has a sebbie which is probably the BEST knife built today but that ain't good enough. All you jokers that recommended a knife to him need to get your heads examined. Spark should have closed this thread right after it opened and no props to him for not doing so. This is posted in the wrong forums anyways. Just a bullshit thread plain and simple.
 
And I highly suspect the entire story is BS as well. What does a number on the end of a name mean in almost every case? 99? The year of graduation. (or birth and in that case he is 8 years old)
By coming here and stating I am 14 and need to defend myself because I go about in the big city blah, blah blah......and mom wants me to carry a blade......been beat with a 2x4 (no less, can you really see a thug packing one about in the city and onto a subway?) just what he wanted to happen here has.
 
This is an interesting thread.

I am surprised to see someone this young interested in a self defense folder. I will not condescend on him because of his age. I must admit that I have reservations as an adult as carrying a knife for "self defense" (basically what topher said). I believe it is best for a knife to be a tool firstly, and perhaps a weapon secondarily. This way it appears that a person involved in a confrontation acted with wisdom, instead of some sort of premeditated action (cutting someone). So my thought is that a strong, good quality locking folder would be a good choice to carry. At the age of 14 I believe I carried a Victornox Adventurer. Later (about 16) I got a Spyderco Military, which is a very good utility knife that opens one handed and has a reasonably strong lock. These were my fishing and hunting knives, that I carried for utility also.

Perhaps mom should get a concealed carry permit if she fears for her safety?
 
I think the big plastic kids first Swiss Army would be perfect for this person with a 2x4 back up.
 
a) By roaming, I assume you mean, going to the lightrail to go uptown, (a better area) to go to school, the movies, the mall, etc.

b) If you doubt the validity of my attack, base your judgment off of these statistics...

CNN/Morgan Quitno "Most Dangerous City" Rankings (2006) ranks Baltimore as the 12th most dangerous American city. Baltimore is second only to Detroit among cities with a population over 500,000.

According to crime statistics there were 269 homicides in Baltimore in 2005, giving it the highest homicide rate per 100,000 of all U.S. cities of 250,000 or more population. Though this is significantly lower than the record-high 353 homicides in 1993, the homicide rate in Baltimore is nearly seven times the national rate, six times the rate of New York City, and three times the rate of Los Angeles. In addition, other categories of crime in Baltimore have also been declining, although overall crime rates are still high compared to the national average. The rate of forcible rapes has fallen below the national average in recent years; however, Baltimore still has much higher-than-average rates of aggravated assault, burglary, robbery, and theft.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimore,_Maryland
 
Well the more i read this the more I think your full of Shit, your grammar states otherwise than 14, and if you really are that young, you seem to have enough knowledge to look it up on your own without any help based on all your previous posts, besides, why are you up so late?
 
So you think you are going to carry this knife to school with you?
Things you say just don't add up. The 350+ dollar knife you already own at 14.
Your dear mother wanting her 14 year old to carry a knife (to school no less)
A thug packing about a 2x4 in a crowded city to beat his victims with.(after which he returns the taken money)
Another thing you say "Mom" has a problem with the Kershaws blade width? All the knives people here are recommending are a lot more deadly looking than that.
(what about poor "Mom"? If "Son" is so set upon in their part of the city, what is she doing to defend her person?)
 
I don't think that vanc99 is a 14 year old kid....his (or her) typing method indicates otherwise.
I think he (or she) is just yanking your chain.
Let it go.
 
I have to write something too :)
14 and knife = NONO
14 and knife and self defence = NONONO
14 and knife and self defence and recommendation from mother = parent gets a free pass to a psyc ward.
14 and knife and school = NONO

Well, lets say for a change that you might need a knife for a tool, you are of legal age, your parents are not mentally dysfunctional etc, no SD, no combat shit, no macho crap then I would recommend a plain and simple Swiss Army Knife. Something like the SAK Explorer with philips screwdriver. It is big enough to work as a decent knife and small enough to stop you from being tempted to use it for SD.
I had a plain old regular single blad EKA knife when I was 15, traded up for a SAK at 18 and so on. Carrying a knife for SD in Europe is almost as bad as raping your neighbours kids.
 
I'm quite sure Vanc99 is indeed 14 years old, and think he was not lying about the use of the green symbol.

You can't put an age on somebody by their grammar use alone.
If that would be true, many people here posting in this threat would be much younger than he is. (offcourse everybody has the right of using bad grammar in his posts, including me:D)

Now back on topic:
I think people stating that someone of that age shouldn't be thinking about SD that much should reconsider that.
Im my city, you have much more chance of getting attacked at that age than when you are an addult(as BG's usually look for the easiest preys:woman, children and elderly)
They mostly are around 16 themselves here.

Concerning the incident on the bus:
I find it shocking to know that so little people help other people out in such a situation. I have heard about a lot other fights/robbings on public places where nobody tried and just did as if they didn't see anything. They didn't even phone te police.
I have seen an old man being attacked by a large group young man about a year ago, and ran to the place and asked them what they were doing. When they saw me they walked away quickly, while I had only one buddy with me and they were with about 6 or 7. So it was quite clear that if it would have come to a fight between us, we had very little chance, but the fact alone that the old man got help made them stop hitting him.

Still I don't think it would be a good idea for you to to use a knive in SD. If the attackers are about your age, and are unarmed, you can scare them with that in certain situations. But when they are real(as in strong adult) BG's, I would in your place either run or give them my money. When you hurt a real BG you will escalate the situation with the risk of getting killed instead of being robbed from money of less value than you expensive SD-knive(and certainly your live)

When I was about your age(I'm 21 now), I kept a second wallet with some dated credit cards, and very little money and other worthless stuff, to give to people that would rob me. I never needed it, but some friends of me did, and it worked for them. I have never heard about a BG do a body search on their victim to find valueable things, and if they would do so, they are not going to harm you for hiding money unless they want to do that anyhow.
 
buckabee said:
Concerning the incident on the bus:
I find it shocking to know that so little people help other people out in such a situation. I have heard about a lot other fights/robbings on public places where nobody tried and just did as if they didn't see anything. They didn't even phone te police.

Still I don't think it would be a good idea for you to to use a knive in

When I was about your age(I'm 21 now), I kept a second wallet with some dated credit cards, and very little money and other worthless stuff, to give to people that would rob me.
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Buckabee: don't find shocking at all that people don't help in those situations. Usually people just mind their own bussiness and don't want to get in trouble. When I was younger I had like two incidents and none helped a bit. BTW that advice of yours about carrying an old wallet with some old cards and stuff looks like a good idea... I just carry some spare change in my LF pocket for that (RF pocket is for my knife ONLY).

I just read the whole thread and it is quite interesting... I have been carrying a folder since I was... uh... 13? 14? But not for SD (try to do some SD with a SAK and you will get the idea). I even took mine to USA when I went there as an exchange student and took it a few times to school... untill someone told me it was forbidden (I just left it at home after that).

Uh.. I just noticed you all are suggesting fancy expensive knives (besides the Delica Wave I mean). I happen to have a Delica Wave right now in my pocket (I am in the office) and the only reason that detracts me of carrying an Endura (the one I have is not waved) is just because it digs in my legs while seating at my desk. Maybe an Endura Wave is what you are looking for. I guess it meets all your requirements: one hand opening, fast deployment, non frightening name/look, cheap in case you loose it... And I guess is big enough.

Like a few more people in this thread I guess I should recomend you taking some SD lessons in a gym, they will be more helpful than any knife in your pocket.

Mikel
 
Dear Vanc99. I say weapons is not the answear, however as you pointed out so elequently, since you are going to buy one... and btw I'm 34 and full of wisdom pearls.

My suggestion is the Benchmade 14205 HK series. Just got one. Absolutely super product. No gimmicks you don't deed, a pure user and feels very good in hand.

That was a really sorry character who attacked you on the train. May he RIP.
 
If you are still dead set on this knife then why not the waved delica? I know you said you don't like FRN handles but this material is as tough as it gets & it's very lite & slim :thumbup: It's only going to cost you about $50.00
Be Safe & Stay Alert ;)
 
last time i checked life wasnt a video game, moms werent promoting carrying weapons and 14 year olds werent talking like a CEO of microsoft.Thats why your story is bull sh-t. but hey im only 16 so i would have no understanding of youth in america today.
 
yeah, I'm starting to think he's full of it.

What 14 year old writes like that? Especially one that lives in or near the hood? Thugs carrying 2x4's? 14 year old owning a sebbie? I smell BS
 
Any moderators around here to control this utter nonsense? This does not help the forums or the knife hobby and I've been around here for quite a while.

This doesn't make my opinion any more significant than anyone else, but I'd love to see the hobby survive for as long as possible.

Good New Year to all.:)
 
mrhainky said:
yeah, I'm starting to think he's full of it.

What 14 year old writes like that? Especially one that lives in or near the hood? Thugs carrying 2x4's? 14 year old owning a sebbie? I smell BS
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And he seems to have only a single mother to help him out, living on the bad side of the big city. Has to use public transportation, yet in another thread states he owns a expensive sebbie. What 14 year old kid from the bad side of town owns a knife that costs close to 400 bucks? (or more) Yet needs advice on the purchase of a less intimidating blade than a Kershaw Blur that retains speed and effectiveness. (mom doesn't approve of wide blade AO folders!)
Also he just happens to already be the size of a mature adult man and have stellar maturity. Pointing that out right away within a few posts. Even belittling other posters grammar that didn't agree with his needs at 14. And of course he's already pulled that Blur a couple of times to good effect. I would say that was since his 2x4 beating of the past summer. Since he seemed knife-less at that time. So he needs to brandish his blade every 3 or 4 months?
 
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