You said that the difference was in quality was worth it to you so worth does have a purpose in your buying. You speak of longevity, which also goes towards worth. I understand we buy differently, and I'm not saying you're wrong. What I said is why I bought mine. But visited yes, spoke no.
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I just received a small sebbie.... I don't get it.
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Did you just sign up to argue, and have the last word
Post again and you can have it, I'm moving on
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I do have to say as a general, not just crk but any maker for that matter.
It doesn't cost that much to manufacture a blade.... The entire process once established is just repeated over and over.
Recent Spydercos, Hinderers, Striders,and midtechs are all over priced, and your not just paying for the materials and the manufacturing process.
Your paying for the name.
I can get certain custom makers to make me a blade the exact, if not better tolerances and the same if not better materials than said manufacturers above for cheaper.
Most big makers knives have a certain novelty factor that people are willing to pay for.
Its just the facts.
for example:
1) look up the cost of the different materials that goes into your favorite knife.
2) once you find the prices on the bulk material, divide out what portions you need for the knife and divide that from total costs.
3) you will find that the cost to make a knife is generally a third of the price you pay for the knife. The other 2/3rds of the price makes up overhead/manufacturing, and whatever the maker wants out of each knife as personal profit.
As we all know, no one works for free and if you establish a group of people who are willing to pay the price for the knives, why not mark the price up?
Its simple business practices.
These companies count on it.
It doesn't cost that much to manufacture a blade.... The entire process once established is just repeated over and over.
Recent Spydercos, Hinderers, Striders,and midtechs are all over priced, and your not just paying for the materials and the manufacturing process.
Your paying for the name.
I can get certain custom makers to make me a blade the exact, if not better tolerances and the same if not better materials than said manufacturers above for cheaper.
Most big makers knives have a certain novelty factor that people are willing to pay for.
Its just the facts.
for example:
1) look up the cost of the different materials that goes into your favorite knife.
2) once you find the prices on the bulk material, divide out what portions you need for the knife and divide that from total costs.
3) you will find that the cost to make a knife is generally a third of the price you pay for the knife. The other 2/3rds of the price makes up overhead/manufacturing, and whatever the maker wants out of each knife as personal profit.
As we all know, no one works for free and if you establish a group of people who are willing to pay the price for the knives, why not mark the price up?
Its simple business practices.
These companies count on it.
Did you just sign up to argue, and have the last word
You chimed in on me friend. don't get it twisted and don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.
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You chimed in on me friend. don't get it twisted and don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.
Yes, I chimed in when you stated people bought CRK because of "ambiance". Not going to let that slide, and esp when it was your first post ever.
Your off to a great start here on BF.
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lets keep this civil and on point Ken44
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Don't worry about me. Your going to tell me to keep it civil just because I've called you out on your trolling of this room. Thats pretty funny.
Wasn't you asked not to post in this room again by BF administration?
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Great analogy Tim:thumbup:
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Perfect. I agree! About to open my new small 21. Sure I've done it many times before....And all of you are correct. Different strokes for different folks. I just like to enjoy some fine things in life. Why do people still buy Jordan's then? There are others.
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http://youtu.be/kxN8GNASbM0
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Spyderco make a brilliant knife and the PM2 is one of the best production folders on the planet........That said..........
If you don't see the value, quality and joy in owning a CRK and you feel that it is not worth the extra money to you, then sell it and move on.
No amount of explaining or convincing by those of us who are CRK fans will change your mind. You obviously see it differently to us and you have different values.
If the Sebbie does not "speak to you" then the brand is not for you..............No big deal, just move on.
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Almost all products follow an exponential "price verses quality" curve. Quality increases fairly linearly with price to a point and then the curve starts to level out as price continues to increase. Larger increases in price are required to get smaller increases in quality. Bikes are a good example. For $2000 you can get a really nice bike that weighs 4 pounds less that a $1000 bike. But for $8000 you can get a bike that weighs one pound less than the $2000 bike. The $2000 bike is on the elbow of the price verses quality exponential curve. The $8000 bike is out on the flat portion of the curve.
So is the $8000 bike worth it? Well that depends. If you just need a bike to ride 5 miles to work each day and don't really care much about bikes, the $2000 bike is probably more than you need. If you are a professional cyclist, then the $8000 bike is an absolute requirement. Or if you just love bikes and really get off on being a weight junky, then the $8000 bike is also for you.
There are many products like this; stereo equipment, tools, sports equipments, guns, and knives to name a few. The sebenza is out on the flat portion of the curve for knives. Depending on where you are at in your interest of knives, it may or may not be "worth it" to you.
So is the $8000 bike worth it? Well that depends. If you just need a bike to ride 5 miles to work each day and don't really care much about bikes, the $2000 bike is probably more than you need. If you are a professional cyclist, then the $8000 bike is an absolute requirement. Or if you just love bikes and really get off on being a weight junky, then the $8000 bike is also for you.
There are many products like this; stereo equipment, tools, sports equipments, guns, and knives to name a few. The sebenza is out on the flat portion of the curve for knives. Depending on where you are at in your interest of knives, it may or may not be "worth it" to you.
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My observation is that some people have an appreciation for quality: fit, finish, ergo's, exotic materials, and aesthetics. Some do not. They see no reason to spend good money on Porsches, Rolexes, CRK or Hinderers, etc., etc.
I've met so many of each group over the years that I have wondered if our brains are wired differently.
For me, I have always got my money's worth out of fine, high-quality items, whether they be watches, knives, clothes, or cars. I get pure pleasure out of seeing, using, and fondling them. I've been told I'm throwing my money away. Fine, it's my money. And there is room in the USA for both kinds of people. I don't' put down people who proudly wear a Timex, use a certain knife, or drive a beater. I would hope they don't question we folks who prize quality at its highest level.
Sebenzas are glorious objects that, in my mind, equal works of art. Art with functionality. As others have said, if it doesn't do it for you, stick with what does. Life is too short to fit into someone else's shoes.
I've met so many of each group over the years that I have wondered if our brains are wired differently.
For me, I have always got my money's worth out of fine, high-quality items, whether they be watches, knives, clothes, or cars. I get pure pleasure out of seeing, using, and fondling them. I've been told I'm throwing my money away. Fine, it's my money. And there is room in the USA for both kinds of people. I don't' put down people who proudly wear a Timex, use a certain knife, or drive a beater. I would hope they don't question we folks who prize quality at its highest level.
Sebenzas are glorious objects that, in my mind, equal works of art. Art with functionality. As others have said, if it doesn't do it for you, stick with what does. Life is too short to fit into someone else's shoes.
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My only beef with the Sebenza is the RC of 58-59.
There is NO questioning it is one of the finest made folders on the planet. There is little comparison to any Spyderco I know of.. for fit and finish. For edge retention ALL the Spyderco's I own hold an edge longer.
PM2, GB, Military, Techno.
A man can own all 4 that I do for the price of one plain Jane sebbie. Make no mistake though.. The Sebenza is a finer knife!
It all comes down to preferences..
The Sebenza is worth every cent.. But so are my Spyderco's .. IMHO
There is NO questioning it is one of the finest made folders on the planet. There is little comparison to any Spyderco I know of.. for fit and finish. For edge retention ALL the Spyderco's I own hold an edge longer.
PM2, GB, Military, Techno.
A man can own all 4 that I do for the price of one plain Jane sebbie. Make no mistake though.. The Sebenza is a finer knife!
It all comes down to preferences..
The Sebenza is worth every cent.. But so are my Spyderco's .. IMHO
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Most people are entitled to their opinion. A man with a Harley is entitled to 2 or more opinions 