i love the enduras throw the kershaws in the trash

at the first of this discussion i repeatly asked thomas to suggest a model of kershaw he thought would be a good performer. i said i would buy it & test it to see if kershaws would finally perform better than the jyd in cpm d2 i bought a year ago.thomas refused to suggest a model for me to buy. after looking at the kershaw selection i thought a 3 in. blade in s30 would be a decent product to test since most members should be familar with that instead of vanax 75 or even elmax. thomas doe'st seem to be aware that different alloys can give max performance at optimun rockwells. why is max performance important formites? simply because the superior edge endurance means less sharpening ; hence the knife will last longer. thomas i explained that as simply as possible hope you can understand . also- i worked today & forgot post office was closed so i bought the money order & mailed it from the store. i am a man of action not just an orational windbag that has p[robably never tested a knife in his life.--dennis
 
DennisStrickland said:
at the first of this discussion i repeatly asked thomas to suggest a model of kershaw he thought would be a good performer. i said i would buy it & test it to see if kershaws would finally perform better than the jyd in cpm d2 i bought a year ago.thomas refused to suggest a model for me to buy. after looking at the kershaw selection i thought a 3 in. blade in s30 would be a decent product to test since most members should be familar with that instead of vanax 75 or even elmax. thomas doe'st seem to be aware that different alloys can give max performance at optimun rockwells. why is max performance important formites? simply because the superior edge endurance means less sharpening ; hence the knife will last longer. thomas i explained that as simply as possible hope you can understand . also- i worked today & forgot post office was closed so i bought the money order & mailed it from the store. i am a man of action not just an orational windbag that has p[robably never tested a knife in his life.--dennis
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Does "performance" only pertain to edge retention?
 
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knives are for cutting & paramount to me is edge durability. if others prefer to open & close them to impress friends at sunday school that is their business. fellows lets get back to the important subject [ will kershaws cut up with spydies or benchmades in similar blade lengths with equal bevels & equal sharpness] . if kershaws ca'nt give performance according to price why not move to a better brand costing close to a similar knife.--dennis
 
This is just trolling at this point. The answer is that, although there are more competitive Spydercos than the Delica, a CB Leek will win this competition objectively.

You know Kershaw is probably the best mainstream knife company in the world. I know it. Everyone else knows it. Let's just walk away.
 
children can we get to the important aspect? does kershaw make knives that retain their edges to the performance levels expected of the alloys they use? anyone can attack me personally but that wo'nt improve or demote kershaws. all the manure you cast in my direction will not affect the tests i'm fixing to perform. if the cognitive conclusions of thomas & informed others have submitted are related to kershaw quality then the knives truly are poor quality.--dennis
 
pete1977 if you can find 2 kershaws with a total price of 110$ or so i'll pay for them . dennis [2 kershaws for about 110.00 total} if interested send me a p.m. & i'll send the money order to your instructions.. all i ask in return is you use them as anyother of your knives & write a report.
 
DennisStrickland said:
pete1977 if you can find 2 kershaws with a total price of 110$ or so i'll pay for them . dennis [2 kershaws for about 110.00 total} if interested send me a p.m. & i'll send the money order to your instructions.. all i ask in return is you use them as anyother of your knives & write a report.
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I can test the assertion that assisted opening knives are less suited for a working environment than a manual folder with my Needs Work and my brother's Blackout. (both are pretty much unused) As for the alloys living up to their reputations for edge holding, I don't know much about the whole steel thing except H-1 doesn't rust. period. :D
 
Yanno Cliff...i mean Dennis if you have an issue with Kershaw HT or edge retention then why don't you start a new thread with actual evidence rather than "my friends and I don't like this" etc. and dragging the thread away from the original topic to your own issues with perceived KAI inadequacies.

Trolling is trolling regardless of how eloquently it was put forward.

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Just Want to say to throw Kershaws, ZTs (specially the 550), Bradley's balis... IN MY TRASH, I'm here to help you :D

BTW, my JYD D2 composite can bite more than 2 days !
 
No offense Dennis, but your posts in this thread are extremely hard for me to read. You seem angry and you are not articulating yourself very well.

I can't imagine you having any positive impressions using a Kershaw product, regardless of their actual performance, as you seem to wish them to be horrible, so your opinions can be vindicated.

Personally, I have 10 kershaw pocket knives (as well as several of the inexpensive Pure Komachi knives and expensive Shun kitchen knives)--I've been a fan of Kershaw products for a while now, starting with an ATS 34 Hawk Ti. Some of the very cheapest Kershaw pocket knives have been disappointing to me, but generally you get what you pay for (pretty much for all knife brands).

Carrying a Leek G10 (s30v) right now--it holds its edge very well. I have it sharpened to a mirror finish.
 
leek in s30 has been ordered, cardboard boxes have been picked up, only need to put a smooth razor edge on knife with edge pro. will proceed with tests & give report as soon as possible. bought 2 new kershaws & mailed to mass. for another party to use & report.--dennis
 
why would you sharpen it out of the box? That alone will invalidate much of your results since we have no way of determining the quality of your edge.
 
Well, Dennis Strickland is a man with long and extremely varied experience of knives,manufacturers and steels. He's not some hidebound niche-addict or fan boy, he likes knives and likes using them. I like his candid approach to the subject, he doesn't come across as rude or angry to me, far from it he always seems eager to learn something new.

He says he personally is not satisfied with a knife or questions the aura around it, asks for a model to test and says he will admit IF he's wrong. Not that many people would do that. Can't understand why people need to be so prickly about this:D
 
He came across as rude and angry on this one. Furthermore, I removed these posts from a thread on a very different topic. All this was off-topic and distracting. He could have started his own thread on knife steels instead of trashing the original thread and putting me to the trouble of sorting it all out.
 
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why would you sharpen it out of the box? That alone will invalidate much of your results since we have no way of determining the quality of your edge.
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Well, not sharpening it would actually be worse as a variable, as different manufacturers put different edge geometries on different knives, and edge geometry plays an enormous role in edge durability. My understanding is that his intent is to put duplicate edge angles on the knives for comparison purposes, and since the question here seems to be one of heat treatment as performed by Kershaw compared to other manufacturers' treatment of the same steel, then "leveling the playing field" is in fact the correct action. Also, there is a school of thought among some on these boards that edges put on through the use of power tools (i.e. belt sander) can possibly have changed the temper down where the steel is so thin, making the initial manufacturer's edge a poorer performer than later edges that a user puts on with a system (diamonds, stones, etc.) that involves no potential buildup of heat. Without getting into that argument here, it stands to reason that comparing two edges that have been shaped in the same way eliminates one more variable that could skew the results unfairly.

Now, all of that said, no comparative test that uses a sample of one could ever be viewed as definitive (at least, for anyone other than the individual tester) and you're correct that one bevel could end up being finished better than the other. Still, though, if done correctly, this type of comparison stands the best chance of being fair.

And just to be clear that I'm not taking sides---I think this discussion would be elevated greatly through a marked reduction of sarcasm and condescention.
 
Dennis has informed me he has sent a Shallot and Blackout to me to use and review. They will be my primary using knives on my lobster boat while I get my traps ready for the fishing season. I will review the knives as a whole over a long term period and not focus on just edge retention, etc. I will start an independent thread for each knife and update them regularly as I did for the knives that Spyderco sent. I appreciate the opportunity to test these knives and give my thoughts on them as well as increase my knowlege of a brand that I have limited experience with.
 
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