I regret allowing someone to hold my knife when...........

I learned my lesson after loaning someone a kershaw blur, and they completely F'd up the blade by cutting metal straps off of a bundle of PVC. Still makes me furious.
 
"Lemme see your knife", they say. Uh, huh. The kind of people who don't carry a pocket knife are the ones who think that a knife is the tool for any task. Or their knife is so dull from abuse that they need a fresh victim. Don't think that you can walk away with any of my tools. Go get your own knife, tape measure, volt meter...
 
It's a matter of priciple for me, I have invested decades of time carrying and money in my gear, every week end I sharpen the kitchen knives and whatever I've carried.
Years ago I unwillingly lend a knife to a guy, we were setting up speakers, lights and whatnot for a party that was taking place later that evening, guy next to us shouted asking for a knive, my wife God bless her told him I had one... He promptly snatched it out of my hand, couldn't open it, took care of that. When he was done opening boxes and cutting ties he stood up, looked at me with a concerned grin on his face, "you carry a knife like that all the time!? That's nuuuts!"
I was positively disgusted and promised myself this would be the first and last time.
 
I just don't hand a knife to anyone, I learned that lessen a long time ago..
Non knife people tend to do non knife tasks with a knife, (Some on this forum as well). :rolleyes:
This is the part of my EDC, I'll' loan out but even then I keep an eye on it. In case it's put some where and forgotten about or accidentally gets put in a pocket that it doesn't belong to.
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This subject applies to anything that is your personal possession. Your $50,000 car , a Knife,a gun,your $2000 watch your $250,000 home
Noone is gonna have respect for your stuff or the hard work and hard earned money you spent to get it. they will dent, scratch your car or spill a drink in it or abuse the transmission . they will walk in your house with boots on loaded with mud and rocks or leave a door unlocked so your house gets robbed. they will drop your watch on the ground and scratch it up . they will abuse your knife and use it as a pry bar or drop it on the ground and break the tip . a contractor will do sloppy work on your house cause they don't give a crap .

and that's what it comes down to . people don't give a rats ass about anybody . always been that way always will.

I always treat others things with the respect I would give my own property . You know it wont be reciprocated so don't let them put you in that situation . when I see time and again these poor souls who recount a story of someone borrowing their knife and then nonchalantly handing it back damaged and walking away or doing something with it and the owner not doing or saying anything about it I go nuts. You need to stand up for yourself and say "hey man that's not cool . stop what your doing and give me my knife back now" or "you just F'd up my knife dude you are gonna fix what you just did. " they are either ignorant or basically think you are a pussy and wont do anything about it like children in a school playground.
so don't fall victim to the "if I say something I wont be cool or accepted by these people who don't care about me anyway " mentality . if someone has no respect for your stuff they have no respect for you so why not stand up for yourself cause you don't need the tool bags anyway do you ?.
 
Can I borrow your gun? Of course not. You think I'm stupid?
Can I borrow your car? Nope.
Can I borrow your truck? Hell no.

If knife borrowing is a common occurrence for you, keep an inexpensive spare just for that purpose if it matters to you. If you don't want them to use your knife after the question "What for?"; just don't hand it to them. It doesn't happen often enough for me to do anything other than offer to cut whatever they intend to cut.

The cost/price is frequently asked after looking at your knife. Pretty standard. Anyone who has looked at knives in stores know that there are a lot of knives more expensive than $15. Even SAKs may run you $40 or so depending on the model.
 
ponykid said:
...and that's what it comes down to . people don't give a rats ass about anybody . always been that way always will.....
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That is becoming the norm these days, but it didn't used to be like this. So, no it has not always been that way and some people do care still about anything beyond their self.

I'm still trying to understand the original question about "holding it". Using it, yeah. Opening and closing a folder, yeah.
 
I keep a cheap knife and box cutter on my desk at work, anyone who wants to "borrow" a knife knows where they are.

Ironically, no one has destroyed or stolen either one.
The one time I loaned a co worker a good knife, she sliced her thumb open before i could say "don't run your thumb over the blade".
 
I recently had an acquaintance asking to check out my PM2. I told him, that it was razor sharp and to be careful.
He immediately tried to flick it open with an awkward hand/arm motion and promptly lost hold of the knife, which went spinning.
As a pure reflex, he grabbed for it, as the PM2 spun in front of him. He made several clumsy grabs for the knife, as it first eluded him. He then caught hold of it - by pure dumb luck, he caught it by the last inch of the pommel end.

It all happened in a flash, while I watched in horror. I was sure, that he had impaled a hand due to the violent grabbing motion or at least cut himself - but no, not even a nick! I couldnt believe it.

I dont know about you guys, but when I drop a knife, I automatically step back and make sure, my hands/arms are not in the way of a falling knife.
Guess, I should be happy, that he didnt, as that might have meant a PM tip against the concrete.

I still cant believe, that he didnt impale himself.

I was reminded to not let anybody borrow a good knife.
 
I think I've found a near-perfect knife for those who keep a 'cheap knife' to loan out or let others use.

The Kershaw Barge.

Reasons:
1. blade is less than 3-inches long
2. it only costs around $20
3. it even has a mini-pry bar on the end opposite the open blade, for those who would really abuse a knife using it as such
 
When I’m told that I need to “upgrade” my mini grip to some rainbow tacforce. That gets a short, quick “ give my knife back”
 
Most of the time it is "no" because if they are asking you for your knife it is because they don't own one therefore are not knife people or they would carry one.

And they will certainly do something stupid with it ending with damage to the knife or their self. I gladly offer to do the job. And it is OK with old buddies that knows how to handle knives and you know it won`t come back in two pieces.

Honestly every time I have loaned a knife to someone it occurred something that pissed me off real good. Like the kind of moron that borrows your 500$ Falkniven and strikes a ferro with the blade (I was sure he did it on purpose) or the twit that drops your Spiderco on a ceramic floor right on the tip, or better the jackass that tries to pry off a piece of wood from a pallet with your aurora, THANK YOU, but not anymore, NEVER, not even a mora.
 
I regret it always. 90 percent of the time someone asks for a knife what they actually want is a screwdriver shaped pry device to bend and scrape my beautifully polished edge on.
 
I stopped handing other people my knives after two incidents of stupidity:

1. Back in the late '90s, an acquaintance asked to see my Delica. He started walking over to a thick, solid wooden pillar with the knife in an icepick grip. I said, "Hey, what're you doing?" He said, "I wanna see how far I can chop into this." I took it back from him. Keep in mind, this guy was in his late 20s at the time.

2. Also in the late '90s. A friend I knew who was also a cop saw my pocket clip and asked to see my BM Mini-Stryker. He immediately started trick twirling it around in his fingers, like some people do with a pen, then abruptly tried to stick it into a wooden beam, and let go of the knife. He hadn't pushed it hard enough, so instead of sticking, the knife fell onto the concrete floor. He had a stupid, wide-eyed grin on his face, chuckled a bit and kind of shrugged his shoulders. Luckily, the knife had fallen sideways and wasn't damaged. This guy was a year older than me, so was about 37 or 38 at the time. I emphasize their ages because these were not children (at least in the chronological sense).

That was the last time ever.

Jim
 
22-rimfire said:
That is becoming the norm these days, but it didn't used to be like this. So, no it has not always been that way and some people do care still about anything beyond their self.

I'm still trying to understand the original question about "holding it". Using it, yeah. Opening and closing a folder, yeah.
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My situation didn’t involve someone needing my knife to complete a task, my intention was simply letting them look it over, open and close it, etc. The question can also be answered if someone lends their knife to someone needing it to do a job. By me saying “hold my knife” includes both work and simply show and tell, after all, the person your handing your knife to has to “hold” your knife before the use or abuse starts.
 
Most everybody I know is far too scared of my knives to want to handle them. Not just folders or fixed blades, but kitchen knives too. Friends or family who are preparing food at my place will invariably steer clear of all of my blades and ask if they can have one of my wife's Henkels instead.
 
I think some people just don't realize how much money you need to pay in order to get a good quality knife that's not made in a Communist country. I had one incident with a guy trying to use my Boker Subcom as a screwdriver once, but apart from that, my friends are either people who know how to handle knives properly, or old childhood friends who aren't interested in knives anyway.
 
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