If I dont own a Sebenza.....

As for not knowing how to sharpen a knife, I'm sure there are many people on this forum who don't know how to sharpen. I'm also sure that there are many who are in the process of learning but haven't quite got it yet. I for one don't look down on any of them for their lack of ability.

I wanted to quote this not to talk about any member or even the guy in the story, but as a general statement about sharpening and knife care I think it's important.

I know how to sharpen, kinda, but not great like the pros on here. I have decent equipment for sharpening, kinda, but not a Sharpmaker or Shapton stones like the pros on here. I can get an edge that is "good enough" but not one that is scary hair popping sharp like so many threads are after.

Could be this guy knew something about sharpening but didn't want to ding up his Sebenza. I don't own one but of course I know their reputation. For whatever reason, he didn't sharpen his. At the end of the day he could still be a knife guy.

As far as I'm concerned (YMMV) even a guy who enjoys lower end knives, or can only afford/prefers $20 Wal-Mart specials can still be a knife guy just like any of us.

Being a knife guy isn't about what you carry or how well you sharpen.

Being a knife guy comes from inside. It's something you are if you want to be and other serious knife guys will always take that seriously. It's something we all understand.

And yes, I realize I fell for the bait too. ;)
 
I wanted to quote this not to talk about any member or even the guy in the story, but as a general statement about sharpening and knife care I think it's important.

I know how to sharpen, kinda, but not great like the pros on here. I have decent equipment for sharpening, kinda, but not a Sharpmaker or Shapton stones like the pros on here. I can get an edge that is "good enough" but not one that is scary hair popping sharp like so many threads are after.

Could be this guy knew something about sharpening but didn't want to ding up his Sebenza. I don't own one but of course I know their reputation. For whatever reason, he didn't sharpen his. At the end of the day he could still be a knife guy.

As far as I'm concerned (YMMV) even a guy who enjoys lower end knives, or can only afford/prefers $20 Wal-Mart specials can still be a knife guy just like any of us.

Being a knife guy isn't about what you carry or how well you sharpen.

Being a knife guy comes from inside. It's something you are if you want to be and other serious knife guys will always take that seriously. It's something we all understand.

And yes, I realize I fell for the bait too. ;)

I usually tend to put things into perspective.

Taking Space Flight for example.

Who would one rather talk to?

1) One who has read a post or an article about it.
2) One who has actually done it.
 
I have many Sebenza's, yet I don't feel any smarter or more privileged in owning them. So, no as many has already said. There are a few things to know if you want to be taken as a serious knife guy. BTW, your post is not taken as silly. Make intelligent posts, remember, what you put on the web, never goes away. Participate in discussions based on your level of knowledge on any thread. Always be willing to listen without being biased and form your own opinion. Always read and listen to understand and not just to reply.
To be taken seriously as a knife guy is not about any one brand of knife, but rather, how you react to what someone says, how you respect a knife in front of people, especially non knife people. But most of all, it's about having fun and learning about this wonderful hobby. That's all.

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Every CRK Sebenza thread, always end up in the same manner: CLOSED.

=Ankerson;14950525]I usually tend to put things into perspective.

Taking Space Flight for example.

Who would one rather talk to?

1) One who has read a post or an article about it.
2) One who has actually done it.

Excellent analogy, Ankerson.
 
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We need more enabling and less bickering! BF is all about the enabling for me. Lol. I was going to trade out my Starbenza for a Southard plus another knife. I had to stop that thought when I realized how perfect of a compact carry the small is. I love the large even more as it stuffs more knife into it's compact handle than any other knife that I've ever handled. The large is a big knife and it never carries as such. The same with the small. The other awesome thing that I really love about Sebenza's is that it's the only knife that I've ever had that has a video detailing its dis-assembly and re-assembly. If you follow the instructions you can literally kill two birds with one stone: 1) it allows you to see just exactly how precision fit Sebenza's are when you slip the blade back into the handle and 2) it automatically perfectly centers your knife.

At least for me the price range has nothing to do with how much I like a knife. But I do go overboard in how geeky I am about learning about knife attributes and the learning how to sharpen a knife which is all part of the process of learning and appreciating knives. I really love Elmax steel for example just as much as S35v and 440a (when done right). All of these knives at whatever price range has a place in my life and my edc rotation. But that won't be the same for everyone and to each their own!





 
We need more enabling and less bickering!

I love the looks of your Starbenza- thanks for sharing these nice pictures, cchu. :thumbup:

I just arrived up in the high rather remote country of Idaho, a couple of weeks ago, & thought it would be fitting to put my Idaho made, CRK Zaan, into my edc rotation. I love & enjoy everything about this quality folder. CRK makes a perfect knife, & their customer service is, exceptional!

CRK knives may not be for everyone, but they definitely fit my needs, & fulfill the passion that I feel in owning a solid, quality folder.

Happy Fourth of July everyone, & please be safe!:thumbup:
 
Being from the Netherlands, Sebenza's are hard to come by. When I was at the Dutch Knife Exhibition I tried/handled one at one of the stands. I was sort of underwhelmed, to be honest. That said, from reading these forums my expectations of the Sebenza probably weren't realistic. I'm not sure what I was expecting, but it wasn't immediately obvious that I was holding the pinnacle of knifemaking. It was a lot heavier and more traditional then what I was expecting.

The knife looked obviously over-engineered, in a good way, to me. I am a proponent of this kind of over-engineering, because it obviously makes a better knife. But was it worth 800 euros to me? No, i'd have paid about 400 for the one I was holding. Plus, for that kind of money I'd be scared to use it.

However, it was quite apparent that this was a knife with immaculate fit and finish. With normal use and good care and maintenance, it would probably survive me and be passed down to my future grandchildren, which is awesome. But it struck me that it would rob me of any excuse to buy new knives!

So, I'm a bit mixed about the Sebenza's. I like that there are different designs. The one I was holding had a design that put me off, so that probably factored into it. All the same, there is a feeling in the back of my head that i'll probably end up buying a sebenza sometime in the future. I don't really know why, though, but there it is.

I'll stop rambling now.
 
I love the looks of your Starbenza- thanks for sharing these nice pictures, cchu. [emoji106]

I just arrived up in the high rather remote country of Idaho, a couple of weeks ago, & thought it would be fitting to put my Idaho made, CRK Zaan, into my edc rotation. I love & enjoy everything about this quality folder. CRK makes a perfect knife, & their customer service is, exceptional!

CRK knives may not be for everyone, but they definitely fit my needs, & fulfill the passion that I feel in owning a solid, quality folder.

Happy Fourth of July everyone, & please be safe![emoji106]
That's beautiful country!
 
I don't own one and don't want to own one. Not my style, I like traditional knives.
 
Got mine as a gift. Not many studio pics of it or just polished it never used it pics either.

Here it is opening a can of tomato sauce in the kitchen.

Do you need to be gifted a can opener, too? I don't see the point of using any knife to open a can unless it's a life or death situation with no other alternative tools to use as a can opener.
 
I love the looks of your Starbenza- thanks for sharing these nice pictures, cchu. :thumbup:

I just arrived up in the high rather remote country of Idaho, a couple of weeks ago, & thought it would be fitting to put my Idaho made, CRK Zaan, into my edc rotation. I love & enjoy everything about this quality folder. CRK makes a perfect knife, & their customer service is, exceptional!

CRK knives may not be for everyone, but they definitely fit my needs, & fulfill the passion that I feel in owning a solid, quality folder.

Happy Fourth of July everyone, & please be safe!:thumbup:

I didn't know you could catch waves in Idaho? Anyway nice umm a nice board.

As for sebbie's they either fit or they don't. Would I buy and use a hammer that every one else used and loved even if I didn't like it? Nope.
 
A better question is can I be taken seriously as a knife guy if I can't sharpen knives.

I ran into a sebenza user at a knife shop.

I was checking out the diamond stroping compounds on display and testing them with my Gayle Bradley Spydie to see if I could tree top arm hair with 1 micron abrasives.

A curious fellow approached.

And pulled out his Sebenza.

I chet chat with the sebenza user. He let me check out his small Seb. 21with micarta. Sweet blade. But it could use a touch up.
I felt bad because owner told me he doesn't know how to sharpen or strop but owns the highest quality production folder made.

It's like having a favorite book series with a friend bur he tells you he is ilterate.

I gave him some advice and carefully stroped his $500 piece at his request. It didn't take the strop as well due to needing a few passes on a high grit stone or ceramic to straighten out some glints seen in the light on the edge. I explain this to him but he said it felt sharper anyway.

Cool guy, but damn, just seemed brutal.

Owning an awesome knife is irrelevant if one can't sharpen it. How can a person truly appreciate their knife if they can't experience it fully?

It's like having an insanely fast car with no driving skills.

Just a trophy piece.

Ouch.

Now that is snobby. He may have been new to the hobby and still hasn't learned to sharpen. Not cool IMHO, to look down on people for not having skills.

I don't know. I think he makes a valid point. It's not the knife that should lend you any credibility (be taken seriously) but what you can do with it. If you can't even maintain the edge you certainly won't be able to do much with the knife for long. At that point what difference does it matter what you carry.
 
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Every CRK Sebenza thread, always end up in the same manner: CLOSED.



Excellent analogy, Ankerson.


Thanks. :)

In the end one has to make their own choices and figure out what they want.

Personally I like CRK knives and have owned a few over the years, currently EDC a Sebenza 25.

But I like it, if I didn't then I wouldn't have it. ;)
 
Guess I should add a current photo of mine. :)

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I don't have as much opportunity to use fixed blades as I'd like but that is one great blade. That looks suitable even for urban carry.

I've been trying to decide if I can urban carry a nice fixed blade, but I haven't done that since I was a teenager when I was pretty much exclusively into fixed blades.
 
I don't have as much opportunity to use fixed blades as I'd like but that is one great blade. That looks suitable even for urban carry.

I've been trying to decide if I can urban carry a nice fixed blade, but I haven't done that since I was a teenager when I was pretty much exclusively into fixed blades.

Planning on using it as a neck knife I think. :)
 
Planning on using it as a neck knife I think. :)

Cool! The close-up makes it seem larger than it is I guess.

I've often thought about a neck knife just to try it out, but even though I usually wear untucked printed tees or button down shirts, usually untucked, I haven't tried it yet. Guess I'd feel funny reaching up under my shirt (I assume that's how it is done) to get a knife out. You get used to it like anything, I suppose.
 
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