If I dont own a Sebenza.....

Eliteone2383 said:
If I dont own a Sebenza.....Then can I ever be taken seriously as a knife guy?
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Of course you can. CRK aren't the end all and be all.

Truth be told it's what you can do with the tool (whether it's dressing game, whittling, bushcraft, defense, etc) that truly counts vs. the tool and especially vs. what anyone else thinks of you/considers you because of your choice of tool.

Many on this General Knife Discussion forum wouldn't give a second glance to the knife with which I whittled this.

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Eliteone2383 said:
Then can I ever be taken seriously as a knife guy?
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So ... if you don't own a Lambo or Ferrari you can never be taken seriously as a car guy?

Back in HS, Barlows and Bucks were common. It was having a Spyderco that was 'boss'.

Hmmm ... what's that ego condition where you seek approval and worth in how others see you instead of your own self?
 
If I dont own a Sebenza..... Then can I ever be taken seriously as a knife guy?

No. But a lot will disagree. To each his own.
 
singularity35 said:
Now that is snobby. He may have been new to the hobby and still hasn't learned to sharpen. Not cool IMHO, to look down on people for not having skills.
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You helped! I agree with you. Most knife guys wouldn't let another person touch their edges unless they were knowledgeable about sharpening and that is every bit as important as the knife you own. In terms of cutting ability I have knives that out slice each other, whose edge retention beats each other etc... And the price ranges are all over the place. I think the key to what the op is asking is you really need to be a knife geek to be a knife person vs what you carry.
DeadboxHero said:
Interpret it as you wish. He came to me, he asked me, I helped him. I posted here to share my thoughts and opinions in a thread filled with thoughts and opinions.
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First, you get the baiters
Then, you get the haters
You then get the pushers

Every Sebenza thread I have seen ends the same way..and then

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If you own more than one knife, fixed or folder,.I would probably call you a "knife" guy..
 
A real knife guy never would have started this thread. . . . . . . or responded to it. ;)
 
ATJ999 said:
Don't worry what others think. It's better to have a serious knife and have no one know about it, than be taken seriously on the internet!
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:thumbup:Even my wife of 20 years does not know what knives I have, or the value of particular models.I consider my knives personal tools.....
 
I can't believe this thread has gone 5 pages. If you like a knife buy it or don't. Who cares what anyone else thinks.
 
leghog said:
Of course you can. CRK aren't the end all and be all.

Truth be told it's what you can do with the tool (whether it's dressing game, whittling, bushcraft, defense, etc) that truly counts vs. the tool and especially vs. what anyone else thinks of you/considers you because of your choice of tool.

Many on this General Knife Discussion forum wouldn't give a second glance to the knife with which I whittled this.

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This makes a great point. When you're in a group of aficionados I think it's very easy to forget that what you can do with the tools is much more important than the tools themselves.

That's some nice carving.
 
If you have the money buy one if not don't buy one . I have two because I can have them if not I would have them . I'm not sure if that makes me a serious knife guy .
 
DeadboxHero said:
A better question is can I be taken seriously as a knife guy if I can't sharpen knives.

I ran into a sebenza user at a knife shop.

I was checking out the diamond stroping compounds on display and testing them with my Gayle Bradley Spydie to see if I could tree top arm hair with 1 micron abrasives.

A curious fellow approached.

And pulled out his Sebenza.

I chet chat with the sebenza user. He let me check out his small Seb. 21with micarta. Sweet blade. But it could use a touch up.
I felt bad because owner told me he doesn't know how to sharpen or strop but owns the highest quality production folder made.

It's like having a favorite book series with a friend bur he tells you he is ilterate.

I gave him some advice and carefully stroped his $500 piece at his request. It didn't take the strop as well due to needing a few passes on a high grit stone or ceramic to straighten out some glints seen in the light on the edge. I explain this to him but he said it felt sharper anyway.

Cool guy, but damn, just seemed brutal.

Owning an awesome knife is irrelevant if one can't sharpen it. How can a person truly appreciate their knife if they can't experience it fully?

It's like having an insanely fast car with no driving skills.

Just a trophy piece.

Ouch.
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Considering how dull the knife apparently was, it doesn't sound like it was a "trophy piece", it sounds like it was a "user".

If it were a "trophy piece", I imagine it would have still had it's original factory edge.

In any event, how people choose to appreciate THEIR knives is entirely THEIR business. I for one would never look down on anyone because they choose not to use a knife and keep it in pristine condition.

I have several "users", but I also have some knives that I regard as "treasures", and I don't use my "treasures".

And If that causes people to not take me seriously, like I said earlier, I couldn't care less.

As for not knowing how to sharpen a knife, I'm sure there are many people on this forum who don't know how to sharpen. I'm also sure that there are many who are in the process of learning but haven't quite got it yet. I for one don't look down on any of them for their lack of ability.

Likewise, I don't look down on people who don't change the oil in their car, or fix it themselves when it breaks down. Nor would I say "Owning an awesome car is irrelevant if one can't fix it". Nor would I pose the question "How can a person truly appreciate their car if they can't experience it fully?".

How people choose to appreciate THEIR property is entirely THEIR decision to make. And as far as I am concerned, they can never be wrong.
 
leghog said:
Of course you can. CRK aren't the end all and be all.

Truth be told it's what you can do with the tool (whether it's dressing game, whittling, bushcraft, defense, etc) that truly counts vs. the tool and especially vs. what anyone else thinks of you/considers you because of your choice of tool.

Many on this General Knife Discussion forum wouldn't give a second glance to the knife with which I whittled this.

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Whatever tool you used it looks like a fine piece of work.
 
Killgar, I used the story to help convey a point about the question asked by the op.

Its not the tool, its the knowledge.

The story seems to have struck a chord with a few. Wonderful.

As far as lambasting me with self righteous about my character and being a snob for having an opinion,
Just take it down a notch and don't take yourself so serious.

Or don't hahaha its the internet after all.

Do as you wish.

But I'd rather share and be crucified then lurk around picking people apart.
 
My opinion:

Sharpening a knife is not analogous to working on the engine of your car, but rather to putting gas in the tank. No gas, no drivie. No sharp, no cuttie. I would venture to say that most around here would recommend that a person who owns a car and wants to use it on a regular basis should know how to put gas in the tank, and if they don't, they should learn. These are not radical or controversial opinions. Telling someone they would have a better experience with their tool if they would learn to put gas in their car or sharpen their knife is not the equivalent of looking down on them. I'd almost view it as the opposite. It conveys a desire to see them have a more positive experience.

I wonder what Deadboxhero would have done if the fellow with the nice Sebenza had asked him to share a bit of his sharpening knowledge? I don't know the man but I have a pretty good idea of what he would have done....probably the same as most of us, and i doubt it would involve any "down looking". :)
 
DeadboxHero said:
Killgar, I used the story to help convey a point about the question asked by the op.

Its not the tool, its the knowledge.

The story seems to have struck a chord with a few. Wonderful.

As far as lambasting me with self righteous about my character and being a snob for having an opinion,
Just take it down a notch and don't take yourself so serious.

Or don't hahaha its the internet after all.

Do as you wish.

But I'd rather share and be crucified then lurk around picking people apart.
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Try not to be so sensitive.

This is a public discussion forum. You expressed your opinions, and I expressed my opinions. No one has "crucified" you.

No one on this forum is immune from having their opinions challenged. Not you, not me, not anybody.

If you feel that you are being crucified because people disagree with you, perhaps you are taking this all too personally.
 
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