If I have no money for a Busse and if A2 sucks? What options for a survival knife?

ukknifer said:
Every knife will break ================ Yes
All knives break at the same point========NO
I want my knife to break AFTER you break yours :)
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Nah, that's ok, you go ahead and break yours first. I'll just use my 1095 knives the way they were intended and maybe you can see if Noss needs an apprentice.
 
I'd trust 1095 steel as my survival knife without doubt. A reputable maker will make heat treat well and makes 1095 give supersteels run for their money in edge retention, toughness and ease of sharpening.

Get 1095 CroVan from Becker or 1095 from Esee and you get knife you can depend your life on it.
 
Short of having your blade magna fluxed or X-rayed, there will always be that X factor of potential failure due to inclusions, variations in temper, and so on. All you can really do is to listen to the good folks in the forum and buy the knife that feels the best. For me, it would be either an ESEE Junglas or a Becker BK-anything. But that is just me.
 
I'd suggest that the OP buys an ESEE - they are tough and come with the best warranty possible. If they couldn't stand up to hard use then they couldn't offer such a good warranty. Probably best to buy an ESEE 5 - that is the thick one that will handle more abuse than most knives. If an ESEE 5 breaks then so would most other knives you could buy.

The ESEE knives are 1095, but don't worry about that, Rowen knows what he is doing and you can trust his heat treat. Whatever 1095 knife you saw break on youtube would not have been as thick & strong as an ESEE 5. A quarter inch thick slab of steel just isn't going to fail due to a bit of hard use!
 
Have you looked at Dark Ops yet? They're not made of sucky steels like A2 and 1095 but CTV2™ Stainless Steel.
I've never seen reports of a Dark Ops breaking so they must be the best.
 
crackerjax said:
Oh no knife test guy strikes again A2 is great!! knife test guy is a dummy! If A2 sucked so bad Chris Reeve would be out of buisness a long time ago. And as far as busse go's you pay for the BS and the knife is free. Knife test guy is just a puppet for busse. Thats my 2 cents.
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Funny :D
 
Check out the Becker BK-7, BK-9 and the ESEE RC 4, RC 5 or RC 6.

Or for a little bit higher price, check out the Scrapyard Dogfather or SOD...SR-77 is very tough steel.
 
ukknifer said:
This is another video of a custom bark river that failed its long but see the hole thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ss8NtqEkw
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That is a great video, thanks for posting it ::thumbup: I really like the orator :D I will be avoiding Bark River knives like the plague :thumbdn:

I wonder if the Bark River Bravo 1 is just as bad:confused: It's claim to fame is the USMC chose it over a bunch of other mass produced knives.

Cordially,

BabyJWuu :)
 
Rat Finkenstein said:
Stop basing your knife decisions on attention starved knife clown videos to start with, and then learn about knives and steel(s).
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Yeah :D

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FlyingKiwi said:
If you are needing a knife that tough, you should probably have a look at yourself. A knife needs to be respected, use a pry-bar when you have to, not a knife. 1095 or A2 are perfectly sufficient steels for any reasonable outdoors task.
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With respect, a knife has to perform a variety of tasks and have strength, we will not always have a pry-bar with us.

Cordially,

BabyJWuu:)
 
BabyJWuu said:
That is a great video, thanks for posting it ::thumbup: I really like the orator :D I will be avoiding Bark River knives like the plague :thumbdn:

I wonder if the Bark River Bravo 1 is just as bad:confused: It's claim to fame is the USMC chose it over a bunch of other mass produced knives.

Cordially,

BabyJWuu :)
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You and ukknifer are probably realted. Either that or there must be some type of flawed logic bug floating around.
 
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This almost belongs in w&c at this point. OP either realized he was wrong and all his questions were answered or he's got his fingers in his ears and saying 'lalalala can't heaaaaar youuuu'. My guess is still troll thread.
 
elkins45 said:
OP hasn't responded in quite a while...
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Yeah, last post was about a picture of a Recon Scout Breakage? :confused: Maybe out scoring his hard use knife. :)

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8905499&postcount=56

Edit: Just finsihed the Noss's Destruction test. I wouldn't let that madness stop me from buying and enjoying a Bark River Bravo 1 in real world use. I didn't think it did too badly at all. I've heard there was a run of "thin grinds" in another thread and if you ended up with one (edge rolls on a bamboo chopstick) you can send it in and they'll give you a new one. :)
 
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