I'm so sick of the double standard!!!

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You need a gold membership or higher to sell even one knife on BFC. That is $25/year.
A dealer membership for one year is $200. It IS more expensive, but I don't understand why there have to be additional perks with a dealer membership. A dealer is defined (or not) here at BFC by the volume of sales. Well, a dealer membership may be 8 times more expensive than a gold membership, but you can bet your bottom dollar that a dealer is definitely moving a lot more than 8 times the number of knives I have for sale. So again, why are the extra perks needed?

As far as new members being led astray by a dealer that charges more for a particular knife than someone else (including another dealer), we can all say that the new member should have done his homework more thoroughly, but that avoids the real issue--i.e. that one member is intentionally and selfishly taking advantage of someone/something else. That a new member does not know that he is being taken advantage of or he just does not care, it is still the behavior of the dealer that is taking advantage of another which I find somewhat repugnant. And what the OP stated in his original post is simply a variation on this theme of taking advantage to someone else's detriment. Dealer or not, if one is so willing to take advantage of someone else to benefit yourself, then you are NOT so much a HOG as a sychophant.

A few weeks ago, I saw a FS ad in the X where someone was selling a few Busse knives for very good prices. In his ad, he stated that he would not sell to any dealer.. While I have no issue with the practices of some dealers, I still applaud the seller's efforts to get some knives into the hands of the masses without risk that a dealer would come in, grab everything, and then mark the knives up 25%+ and make them for sale 3 days later. Maybe we need to see more FS posts like that one!
 
I agree. I'm a gold member and pay dues, but that doesn't seem to matter. I've complained about several dealers selling on private sites for awhile and have been told that is allowed in certain cases, but no one has been clear about it. Maybe you have to give someone a deal on a knife and then you can make your own rules.
 
GregS said:
Don't sell yourself short, Knife Hunter is a good guy to deal with.

Adrock1978, well done.
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Knife Hunter is a great guy to deal with +++++++.

He has a dealer membership but I am always checking his threads!!!!

He has proxied for a lot of people, including me! NO markup at all!


I have noticed the linked sales search thread fog my self on occasion.
 
I must say that I agree with adrock in the original thread...
KH & dericdesmond (spelling - sorry if it's wrong Eric) are a couple of great dealers in my book, specifically having fair pricing (IMHO)...
 
And Knife Hunter has my undying gratitude for helping me out on several occasions by being my Proxy. He is without a doubt one of the good guys. A most excellent chap.
 
I feel stupid for asking this..especially since it is off topic, but I will get back to that in a minute..

What is a "proxy"? I know what it is within the internet..But somehow, I don't think it's the same?


Ok..back on topic...Search is your friend, but only if the sales price of the item you wish to buy isn't changed or removed for some reason. I guess I remove the sold price on my ads, but I think that is out of habit..I will change that in the future as this information is useful to new people.
 
bhyde said:
I feel stupid for asking this..especially since it is off topic, but I will get back to that in a minute..

What is a "proxy"? I know what it is within the internet..But somehow, I don't think it's the same?


Ok..back on topic...Search is your friend, but only if the sales price of the item you wish to buy isn't changed or removed for some reason. I guess I remove the sold price on my ads, but I think that is out of habit..I will change that in the future as this information is useful to new people.
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A proxy is someone who stands in for you at a show, and picks you up knives. Some times at cost, some times at a fee. Depends on the person. Trevor (Knife Hunter) never charged me a fee. Shows the kind of person he is....
 
I´m from Germany and i have some deals with Knife Hunter. He is a very good boy.
 
Knife Hunter is a great guy to deal with, plus he's never contacted me after I've posted that I like a knife saying; 1) He knows who has it. 2) He'll contact the owner for me but it won't be cheap. 3) Let him know if I'm interested, but then follow-up 3 times in one day. My resoponse, "I only said I like the knife, dude."

KH has also never badgered the hell out of me about one of MY for sale threads. Saying that he's a noob and needs a great deal to get to try a Busse. Only to get me to sell at cost, losing shipping expense I might add, to relist it (along with at least 20-40 other newly acquired Busses) for a 40% profit over what I sold it to him for! :mad:

I'm sick of newbs joining our friendly community only to be immediately hit up by dealers pushing their inflated knives.
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These practices have no place in the Busse community on bladeforums. And for these reasons, one dealer has none of my respect nor will he ever get any of my business. :thumbdn:
 
there is a dealer section for a reason,... we are not allowed to post in it. Dealers should post in that section only. Letting 'em post "for sale" in any other section is not fair to any body else. Yes they are good people, and our forum mates, but it is not cool to take advantage over the situation, and make other people feel as peasants. If I wanna shop with a dealer, I'll go to the dealer section,...I know where to find it. So I guess if I am not in a dealer section, that means that I do not wanna see 'em and I do not need anybody to help me find them. I want to buy from every day little people, people like me, because I believe in their cause.
 
richstag said:
Also, to add, maybe I do not have the same passion as you about this. I may not really care enough. As bad as that sounds to say. I really don't.
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This made me laugh. So very true. Life does extend past the internet and has so much more to offer.
 
"You can please some people sometime, but you cannot please all the people all the time". Bob .Dylon
 
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Soulrack223 said:
Knife Hunter is a great guy to deal with, plus he's never contacted me after I've posted that I like a knife saying; 1) He knows who has it. 2) He'll contact the owner for me but it won't be cheap. 3) Let him know if I'm interested, but then follow-up 3 times in one day. My resoponse, "I only said I like the knife, dude."

KH has also never badgered the hell out of me about one of MY for sale threads. Saying that he's a noob and needs a great deal to get to try a Busse. Only to get me to sell at cost, losing shipping expense I might add, to relist it (along with at least 20-40 other newly acquired Busses) for a 40% profit over what I sold it to him for! :mad:



These practices have no place in the Busse community on bladeforums. And for these reasons, one dealer has none of my respect nor will he ever get any of my business. :thumbdn:
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Damn, that's horrible.
 
cro91 said:
there is a dealer section for a reason,... we are not allowed to post in it. Dealers should post in that section only. Letting 'em post "for sale" in any other section is not fair to any body else. Yes they are good people, and our forum mates, but it is not cool to take advantage over the situation, and make other people feel as peasants. If I wanna shop with a dealer, I'll go to the dealer section,...I know where to find it. So I guess if I am not in a dealer section, that means that I do not wanna see 'em and I do not need anybody to help me find them. I want to buy from every day little people, people like me, because I believe in their cause.
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See, for me it's not about who I'm shopping from... it's what I'm shopping for. And when I'm shopping for a Busse, I don't wanna check twelve different forums.

There is nothing wrong with dealers posting in the Busse exchange forum. I wouldn't mind seeing them keep their stuff to one thread, but I don't want to see them posting somewhere else.
 
KH has also never badgered the hell out of me about one of MY for sale threads. Saying that he's a noob and needs a great deal to get to try a Busse. Only to get me to sell at cost, losing shipping expense I might add, to relist it (along with at least 20-40 other newly acquired Busses) for a 40% profit over what I sold it to him for
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That is very uncool and playing you seems downright shady. Hope it wasn't a HOG. If it was...:mad:
 
Does anybody recognize this as a dealer's address?
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Thanks.
 
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high desert said:
I don't care if dealers post in the Busse sales forum, I want all the Busses in one spot. You learn quickly who the dealers are and can avoid them if you choose. My complaint is that generally speaking, dealers remove the sales price once a blade is sold and its tough to get a feel of what a blade is going for when doing a search. Free choice means you have the ability to not click on some thing and certainly not to buy something.
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I like the point you make. I don't care who post what for sale as long as it is a Busse or Bussekin. Everybody knows who the dealers are. I have never had a bad deal with anyone on the forum dealer or not. I like options and they are providing an option. I dont like anyone covering or removing a sale price. It's tough to determine a fair price for some pieces that may be long out of production especially if you are like me (not a bonified expert). I miss alot of pieces to an expert dealer very quickly as do many others and I think that hurts worse than any sale thread. But in their defense they put in the time and roll the dice while I sit on the sideline reluctant to pull the trigger.
 
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