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I'm so sick of the double standard!!!
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i am wondering who everybody is talking about i have some ideas but am not 100% or is nobody allowed to say name then pm me
i have never had any problems i mostly just buy except when i dont care for a knife or the s hit the fan like now lol or to trade for another knife
on a lite note i hope everybody has a good evening
thank you
i have never had any problems i mostly just buy except when i dont care for a knife or the s hit the fan like now lol or to trade for another knife
on a lite note i hope everybody has a good evening
thank you
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Skrapmetal
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Every time I've sold a knife here, I've been lowballed repeatedly by individuals. It's not insulting, nor is it something exclusive to dealers. People trying to get a good deal, that's all.
I don't see how it could possibly be insulting... my self esteem doesn't revolve around the value of my knives.
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Mine does. As my Moras gain in value, so do I.
I've been lowballed on pretty much every knife I've sold here. As an individual, it's just part of selling. Being lowballed by a dealer that's gonna post your knife for sale in the same spot you did is a bit odd though. Kinda like saying "This is all your knife's worth with you selling it, but when I sell it in 3 days it'll be worth more."
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It's certainly not surprising. It's the same as a pawn shop or a car dealer... they tell you what it is worth to them. Being a dealer should make it pretty obvious that they believe it is worth more and they can make money off it if they get you to sell cheap.
This thread has become less about the issue of dealers advertising their threads together and screwing the search function and more of a OMG DEALERS ARE EVIL thread.
THIS is why it's insulting. If it's someone who isn't going to resell ASAP and might possibly get some enjoyment out of it. Then I have no problem getting lowballed. But a Dealer who is going to make Money off me... Come on give me a break!
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Sorta. If you also owned a pawn shop or car dealership next door then it would be closer. The knives don't even leave the website. Just get moved to the top of the pile with a new name attached. Don't get me wrong, I get your point and of course it's not surprising. I just see petah's view of it as well as yours.
Eric is at least. He eats kittens and spits the bones at butterflies. I'd still buy a knife off him any day though.
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Or 50% markup from the recent Cupidganzaa!! Crapitalism Indeed!
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I think we should agree on a price ceiling for 2nd hand busse knives - so nobody has to fear a rip-off.
I vote for 100 USD for anything including and above 8 inches and 65 USD for anything below 8 inches. After successful implementation we roll-out the centrally planned economy to the rest of the world. Who is in?
Yeah, let's drink :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
I vote for 100 USD for anything including and above 8 inches and 65 USD for anything below 8 inches. After successful implementation we roll-out the centrally planned economy to the rest of the world. Who is in?
Yeah, let's drink :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
I don't feel like this is about fair dealers or practices, but their allowance to bypass rules and make it hard on individuals that just want to sell to another individual without an intermediate buyer jumping in to score a cut of profit.
I have expressed the same sentiment that dealers should be in the dealers sub-forum or at very least held to the same rules in individual. It is not an attack on dealers to want to easily choose who to do business with by going into appropriate sub-forum. That is why they exist in the first place.
I have expressed the same sentiment that dealers should be in the dealers sub-forum or at very least held to the same rules in individual. It is not an attack on dealers to want to easily choose who to do business with by going into appropriate sub-forum. That is why they exist in the first place.
Dealers posting in the for sale section don't really bother me,in my opinion it seems the for sale section is used as a place to show off the dealers collection.Has to be,because the prices being charged are really high.
From what I gather,there are only really 2 "authorized" dealers ?
I guess that is what really gets me,the rest are just collectors snapping up a bunch of knives at show and reselling them,which I have no problem with.
What I would imagine being really frustrating is going to a show and contemplating a $700 knife sitting on the table,only to be swooped up by a "dealer" that buys 20 knives at a pop without blinking an eye.
I really like these knives,but there is no way I could spend a chunk of change to go to Blade,only to get there and find out that all the unique ones were snapped up by one guy and I would end up leaving out of there buying something I didn't really want,just so I didn't walk away empty handed.
But...the way tings are now in regards to dealers keeps the value of the knives somewhat high,which I'm sure is appreciated by Mr Busse and the dealers,not so much by me..LOL
Just a noobs opinion.
From what I gather,there are only really 2 "authorized" dealers ?
I guess that is what really gets me,the rest are just collectors snapping up a bunch of knives at show and reselling them,which I have no problem with.
What I would imagine being really frustrating is going to a show and contemplating a $700 knife sitting on the table,only to be swooped up by a "dealer" that buys 20 knives at a pop without blinking an eye.
I really like these knives,but there is no way I could spend a chunk of change to go to Blade,only to get there and find out that all the unique ones were snapped up by one guy and I would end up leaving out of there buying something I didn't really want,just so I didn't walk away empty handed.
But...the way tings are now in regards to dealers keeps the value of the knives somewhat high,which I'm sure is appreciated by Mr Busse and the dealers,not so much by me..LOL
Just a noobs opinion.
hA!Ha!hA! lETs drInK!better yet i'll buy jerry a fifth and ask him to make a "barbie" model that comes complete with midol!
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I really don't care as long as i get my Busse Grails. 
Piece cake....
adrock1978 vs Liu Kang.
I don't get it, what the OP want to achieve?
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You seem to be in the dark. Really.
1. You don't appear to be familiar with who we are talking about.
2. "OMG ALL DEALERS ARE EVIL" doesn't apply, two dealers have received a lot of praise in this thread, and have continued to do so... look a couple of posts below yours.
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Wow... where to start. First off. I'm not whining. I'm not saying dealers are evil. I'm not complaining about their purchase power, ability to attend all the shows, or any other practices that are within the rules. Make money. Go nuts. And this is not an Adrock vs. Liu Kang thread. I've left his name out of it thus far. (Even though it was plainly obvious... apparently some people agree) I think some of his tactics are nauseating. I think his involvement and passion for Busse knives differs greatly from the rest of us which is disheartening. I think he sees a new Busse fan as a new source of income, where we see them as brethren and fellow enthusiasts. I think his interests could easily fall onto any other object if it was as lucrative to sell (and easy) as Busse knives... but those are all opinions. I've never been screwed by him, nor have I ever dealt with him. (ie: pulled the trigger... I have asked about a few of his knives). I too hate threads where the whining goes on and on and the intent evolves into a witch hunt to the point where no one even knows what the original intent was. I simply said I was tired of the double standard. And yes... I'm tired of "certain people" that seem to push the envelope and get "all up in everyone's shiii...*cough* wallet"... more than others, but still try to play the part of fellow friendly knife lover.
I agree. And have. But if you can place 30 links to all your knives in one thread anyway, how hard is it to link people to another section. Or your own website. Or one thread with all knives. Or any of the other nine million options that would help unclutter the INDIVIDUAL SECTION.
It won't happen. Because even though we all love, and support and buy and jeopardize our livelihoods for Busse knives.... There's a double standard. It will continue to be pushed and over looked.
Nor would I. But this is a knife enthusiast forum. The Busse section being one of the more closer knit. Not a knife Dealer web site. Seems the lines are becoming more blurred.
Me too... maybe eventually we'll see some changes based on the same complaints that come up over and over again.
I dont see anyone saying anything remotely close to that.
Well... if you have trouble reading, let me summarize. I (as in me, the writer) am tired (sick of, had enough, get frustrated by) of (derived or coming from) the double standard (the unjust application of different sets of principles for similar situations) between dealers (Evil money grubbing sorcerers who eat babies) and individuals (me, you, them, us)
I don't want to pluck the dealers from the indiv. section. I'm not trying to stop a guy from making a buck (or more) on knives. I would just like to see the rules upheld more equally for everyone, or at least some of the issues inherent within them addressed. Hey... maybe if they were all more like Knife Hunter, fewer of these threads would pop up. Is that my fault? No. Now... does anyone know where I can score a Desert Jack?
I agree. And have. But if you can place 30 links to all your knives in one thread anyway, how hard is it to link people to another section. Or your own website. Or one thread with all knives. Or any of the other nine million options that would help unclutter the INDIVIDUAL SECTION.
The funny thing is, that dealer is here, I know has read this thread, and yet how long has it been and there has been essentially no change from him with his tactics? I would be more than shocked if he changed his ways now.
It won't happen. Because even though we all love, and support and buy and jeopardize our livelihoods for Busse knives.... There's a double standard. It will continue to be pushed and over looked.
Hmmm... Maybe a Dealer sub forum just for Busse-kin??? Seems like this would solve some problems.
That being said. I'm a capitalist. If someone turns a buck or two on a knife... good for him. Buyers are not victims, they agreed to the price they paid. Still, pretty hard to get rich being a knife dealer. But I won't chastise a man for trying.
I don't know what Jerry would say about all this... but I'll bet it would involve the words
"LET'S DRINK"!
Nor would I. But this is a knife enthusiast forum. The Busse section being one of the more closer knit. Not a knife Dealer web site. Seems the lines are becoming more blurred.
Me too... maybe eventually we'll see some changes based on the same complaints that come up over and over again.
I dont see anyone saying anything remotely close to that.
Well... if you have trouble reading, let me summarize. I (as in me, the writer) am tired (sick of, had enough, get frustrated by) of (derived or coming from) the double standard (the unjust application of different sets of principles for similar situations) between dealers (Evil money grubbing sorcerers who eat babies) and individuals (me, you, them, us)
I don't want to pluck the dealers from the indiv. section. I'm not trying to stop a guy from making a buck (or more) on knives. I would just like to see the rules upheld more equally for everyone, or at least some of the issues inherent within them addressed. Hey... maybe if they were all more like Knife Hunter, fewer of these threads would pop up. Is that my fault? No. Now... does anyone know where I can score a Desert Jack?
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I have a solution. Let's start lowballing all the dealers. Tell them their knife is only worth x and if they don't sell to you for that price, you hope they choke on all the knifes they hoarding. They in turn will get their feelings hurt and ask for a dealers only sub forum and they can trade among themselves. Wow, this thread is getting out there.
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