iMac users? My PC PUKED and I'm thinking Mac

Grimspoon said:
oeser, it's just the whole mentality of running out and dropping ~1-2k + on a new Mac as soon as the person's computer gets a virus, experiences instability or crashes.

Save the money and learn how to use / maintain a computer properly. I try to keep in mind that a lot of you probably aren't in my age range (in their 20's) and maybe it's not that easy for everyone. I don't know...

My dad used to have a lot of issues with his computers, older computer's I've traditionally handed down to him after I upgrade. I know first hand that the hardware I was giving him was sound, and that the OS was fresh, but issues would always arise.

The problem wasn't with the PC, it was with the user. (Sorry dad!)

After some time and patience, my dad is now pretty comfortable using and maintaining a PC on his own. He didn't have to switch to a Mac, all he had to do was be a little more careful about what he ran / installed / downloaded. Like me, he doesn't even keep a virus scanner running in the background (added performance for the PC) he just does the occasional online virus scan to ensure his computer is still safe.

That's all it takes as far as I'm concerned.
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I do know how to use and maintain a computer properly but with a PC running Windows this requires more attention and time much more than with a MAC. The savings come in time and labor, a lot of it at that.

Someone also posted that he had very little problems with his PC but he builds them and uses quality parts. This makes a huge difference with any computer.

Keep in mind also that Dell and other PC manufacturer's computers are not the pinnacles of quality harmonious hardware software compilations that they would like you think. There is often a reason why you pay so little for some of them.

There are cheap unstable PCs that have more power and can outperform a MAC half the time when they feel like working and spend the other half crashing.

A pre-built PC with stable high quality components is considerably more expensive than than one of those low priced Brooklyn bridge for sale wonders.

Computer savvy people who have the ability to build their own PCs and enjoy it, will probably pay less for hardware but can get clobbered with costs when it comes to buying software they need since ordered parts don't come with the big software bundles usually included with mega company pre-built machines, unless they already have the software they need.

What I am saying is for what you get MACs are not overpriced. They are great machines for people that just want a computer that works and MACs do work spectacularly. With a MAC you get what you pay for.
 
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Apple PC's are fine, but they are in fact a downgrade in both Hardware and software from windows machines costing a fraction of the price. Just because Apple charges you 150-300% for the same hardware used in any other computer, (should you chose to use it) Doesn't make the hardware magically better, it makes Apple a shady car salesman duping tech-impaired consumers.

You cannot compare Apple PC's to big box brands like Dell. Apple is a boutique PC builder, and should only be compared against other specialized PC builders. When you do that, they simply do not measure up in value or performance.
 
I still prefer my MAC it is a formerly unknown experience in computer stability for me. I am a hooked Mac fan
 
Rat Finkenstein said:
Apple PC's are fine, but they are in fact a downgrade in both Hardware and software from windows machines costing a fraction of the price. Just because Apple charges you 150-300% for the same hardware used in any other computer, (should you chose to use it) Doesn't make the hardware magically better, it makes Apple a shady car salesman duping tech-impaired consumers.

You cannot compare Apple PC's to big box brands like Dell. Apple is a boutique PC builder, and should only be compared against other specialized PC builders. When you do that, they simply do not measure up in value or performance.
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Show me the thin, solid aluminum chassis from any other vendor.

I've been administering MS operating systems since DOS 5. I've been administering Linux operating systems since pre-Slackware 1.0. I don't appreciate the Mac OS due to any impairment in my tech abilities. It's simply the best OS on the market at present, and it runs on the most stable hardware platforms as well.

Don't put down people just because they are willing to pay a bit more money in order to ensure a smooth computing experience. It's not nice and only proves your own ignorance. ;)
 
Vege-Taco said:
Show me the thin, solid aluminum chassis from any other vendor.

I've been administering MS operating systems since DOS 5. I've been administering Linux operating systems since pre-Slackware 1.0. I don't appreciate the Mac OS due to any impairment in my tech abilities. It's simply the best OS on the market at present, and it runs on the most stable hardware platforms as well.

Don't put down people just because they are willing to pay a bit more money in order to ensure a smooth computing experience. It's not nice and only proves your own ignorance. ;)
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If you don't have a smooth windows experience, you are doing it wrong.
 
Have and use both on a daily basis. Windows 7 is a major upgrade performance wise from Vista. That said I still MUCH prefer my mac and don't think they are overpriced at all.
 
Typical mac-emo responses.

If I didn't know any better I would have difficulty operating my computer like many of the posters in this thread.
 
Heyday said:
Here are two very similar machines, the edge actually goes to the ASUS for the video. Now look at the prices. These have the exact same processor in them, with same size and speed hard drive, and same memory. Look at that price difference.

http://store.apple.com/us/cart

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220667

My fiance just bought the Asus last week, and it had a $100 rebate then.
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We don't have your cookies, so we can't see into your cart. But anyway, a few differences are the unibody construction, 7-hour battery life, slot drive vs. tray, large glass multi-touch track pad, LED backlit screen. These things all add up to a nicer user experience and more money. There's nothing wrong with the ACER though, if you're looking for a decent Windows machine. I just don't quite agree that these are equal quality/featured machines.
 
I use both Mac and Windows every day. I have a much smoother experience on my macs than on the Winboxes I use. It's just my experience.

Really though, I can't believe we're having this argument in the Busse forum, the forum of a boutique knife company who charges custom prices for production knives.

All the people who keep talking about price differentials are failing to recognize the core argument of most average PC users: we just want it to work. We don't want to have to tinker with it to get it to run as it should. I am willing to pay more for that piece of mind the way I would rather buy my wife a new car. It's also the reason I sold my Kimber and bought two Glocks. I don't want to have to be an enthusiast to get my stuff to work. If I was, I'd buy all the parts and build my own PC and then brag about how I overclocked the processor and added a liquid-cooled video card so I could run whatever new game is out.

Be real, people. We are all in here because we buy niche knives that just do the work other knives won't. What's so different about paying more for a Mac?
 
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I'm with GatMan! I use Mac's for the user experience (a.k.a. the operating system) not for the hardware. If I were buying a PC I'd have to spend at least $4000 to get the hardware I'd want anyway, so money is definitely not the issue. :D
 
I believe that if Steve-O opened up OSX to the general PC market, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

And if I were willing to tinker more than I am, I would probably just go Ubuntu anyway. Problem is: I want plug and play, and no BS. For that reason, when I build by HTPC, it'll probably be with a Mac Mini. 1080p Internet content and media management on my 52" with only a little box underneath? Yes please!
 
sheaman79 said:
I have home made computers, dell laptop, Asus laptops, etc. I use ubuntu as well (netbook).

With windows 7 I need no other OS. The same isn't true for MAC, which is probably why they sell windows 7 on their website.
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1st off, it's Mac, not MAC(Media Access Control). 2nd Apple does NOT sell Windows 7 on their online store. They do include BootCamp in the OS and they do sell VMWare Fusion and Parallels, but they do not sell Windows of any flavor.
 
Vege-Taco said:
We don't have your cookies, so we can't see into your cart. But anyway, a few differences are the unibody construction, 7-hour battery life, slot drive vs. tray, large glass multi-touch track pad, LED backlit screen. These things all add up to a nicer user experience and more money. There's nothing wrong with the ACER though, if you're looking for a decent Windows machine. I just don't quite agree that these are equal quality/featured machines.
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The price for the mac was $1850 compared to $850 for the ASUS. The ASUS has a multitouch track pad (not glass) and an LED backlit screen. The rest is cosmetic, and if you ask me, the usability of the keyboard is much greater on the ASUS. This is also an old model of ASUS, Apple always lags behind on the latest hardware. I hear rumors that they are getting the new chips soon.

If you want and idiot proof machine, only want to do basic computer things, and have pleanty of money laying around, then Macs are great. Macs are also great for high level audio and video editing, but PC's do a pretty damn good job of that as well.

I use my computer for many more things than that, and I like to work to get the most out of my tools. This is why I run custom PC's and build custom firearms. This is why Macs aren't for me.

I just have a hard time figuring out why people are so willing to pay so much for them.
 
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