iMac users? My PC PUKED and I'm thinking Mac

P-Easy said:
Big plus one bud! :thumbup:

I love PCs, but I also love Macs. I see both sides of the story, and I will end up with a 24" iMac running OSX and Windows 7 pro.

Perfect.
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+1 I'm with you bro. I connect my macbook to a 30" monitor and run both OS's. Works like a charm, best of both worlds.:D
 
I made he switch a couple of years ago and have not looked back. I am sick of hearing about viruses and OS problems. Get a mac and dont look back. The hardware is better because mac chooses the parts the want and who builds them. The software is just plain better. Nothing simpler than OSX.
Zach
 
I'm forced to use Windows 7 at work, and will admit it is the best MS operating system so far, but it still doesn't compare with my Macs for ease of use and stability.
 
There will always be proponents of both. My opinion is that to have a PC run the watlt my Macs do, I felt like I had to be a computer geek. My computer is just for doing the work I need to do. I don't wanna tinker; I don't want to have to constantly be updating firewalls or virus software. I just wanna get on, do my thing, and get onto other business.

If that's how you feel, consider this: we have two 12" PowerBooks (from '02 and '05) and an iMac from '05. They all work flawlessly even now, and all I've ever done is upgrade ram and OS. Never had a virus or any other problems.

That is worth the extra money to me.

About 4 years ago I bought my parent a nice Dell and they've had nothing bit problems with the damned thing. They are now considering going Mac just so theycan use their computer instead of screaming at it.
 
Go Mac. We are on our 4th one and the last 3 are still going! eMac, iMac and new 15 Macbook pro. Kids have the macbooks at college and are running both Windows and Leopard with no problems.

None of us are gamers, but, who has time for games when there are knives to find!
 
I use an iMac at work and virtualize Window 7 using Fusion when needed. The new iMac models are a great deal, with a breataking display. Get the 27" quad core if can afford it! You won't regret it.
 
Once you go Mac, you'll never go back!

IMHO, they're far better: more reliable, much more user-friendly, and simpler and more intuitive to use. Plus, they're immune to most viruses, which are made to target PCs.

As far as software availability goes, while that used to be a problem, it no longer is: as you can now get a program which allows you to run Windows on your Apple, allowing you to run any software not available in Mac.

Consumer Reports tracks user satisfaction, and for many years now Apple has been head and shoulders above all others in overall reliability, tech support, user satisfaction, etc.

In short: Apple rules!

I would advise getting the AppleCare 3-yr. warranty: as the motherboard on my 2007 13" MacBook fried after 2 years, and I would have been screwed without the extended warranty. Since I had it, I returned my laptop to them and they mailed it back within a week, with all my files intact.

Everyone I know who's tried Apples is convinced of their superiority
 
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I work in IT and am a PC guy, but my boss and a couple of the other IT folks have gone with Macs and seem quite happy with them. Several years ago, there were real problems using Macs on networks, but since Apple switched to BSD as their underlying OS, a lot of IT people have switched -- Macs aren't just for artists anymore.
 
Well, I decided to reformat my HD and then I installed Windows 7. Yes, it's still a slow-mo compared to the iMac I played with today. I "might" go ahead and get the Mac... but probably will wait til summer if possible. I help my wife's parents and sisters in Russia and just can't really afford to do that and buy a new computer right now.

Must work harder I guess! ha ha

Thanks for all the comments!
 
well about six months ago, i jumped on on of them asus laptops at bestbuy and could not wait to get back to trade it on the macbook that i have now, the hardest thing that you will have to learn is to x out of the page, you have to do it from the left, just wow!!!

oh yea the tech guy that lives on the left side of me said get a macbook and the programmer guy on the right side of me said to do the same thing, you will not regret it.
 
As long as were talking about switching stuff around, I just switched to Dvorak keyboard layout.
I'm going about ten WPM right now, and it takes a lot more concentration, but having all the vowels and most used letters on the home row will be worth it in the long run.

The formula for the layout is very interesting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard
 
Yes I think the switch to MAC is worth it in more ways than one.
I am very familiar with the Microsoft line of OSs. I have until about 4 years ago been using Microsoft operating systems since DOS.

Despite their limits I have found the Microsoft products to be reliable up to windows 3. Since Windows 95 on there have been mostly problems hence the nick name plug and pray. It can often be difficult to tell if the user made a mistake or the software is malfunctioning.

With Windows you have a very very large choice of hardware options ranging from quite decent to the cheapest no name mystery crap. The problem is no matter how many drivers they make and how hard they try they cannot fully solve the problem and you wind up getting all kinds of hardware and driver conflicts as well as holes in the software security that can be exploited.

Apple on the other hand has their own rigid standards for hardware and although they don't have as large a selection of hardware they, one, have a large enough selection for most uses ,and two, as a result have a much more reliable trouble free operation system with less holes.

Window sacrifices reliability for flexibility and for the average user it is not worth it in my opinion.

If flexibility and the ability to modify is an absolute must for the amount of time and frustration you will encounter using that advantage in windows you will be better off learning to use a Unix type operating system and writing custom drivers for your own personal use.

Mac to me is the perfect machine for the average person who just needs a computer that works without hassles and that is what I like. I do not in any way miss those days of spending hours tuning up and fixing my Windows machines. With my MAC I don't have those problems.

I will give Windows credit from XP onward there seems to be much more reliability but some of the most common frustrating of Windows problems remain as witnessed by me hearing my brother yelling to me over the phone about how feels like smashing his PC after hours spent trying to get his new video card to work. The problem was solved but not too easily which is typical of another day with Windows.

If your time and sanity is worth anything to you go with a MAC. If you are a computer geek who knows his stuff well and has a low tolerance for the blunders in copy protected software and drivers that stand in your way of creating the perfect computer for your needs than get a Unix type operating system that allows you to create your dream machine from scratch.
 
I can't help but wonder what you guys (who switched from PC to Mac) were doing to your computers that caused such a degree of instability that your PC's were essentially rendered unusable.

I game frequently and the games I run push my system hard. I run multiple apps all the time and I use my PC as a media center on top of all that as well, pushing 1080p content daily. Stability has never been an issue. I haven't crashed once with Windows 7, and if I crashed at all with Vista, it was because I was doing something stupid, not because there was anything wrong with my PC. XP was never a problem, especially after SP2.


I build my own computers, order parts + assemble. Maybe it's because I try to use premium equipment that I've had so much luck over the years. I do regular maintenance - software and physical (dusting, etc.), and I monitor temps to make sure everything is in line. It's not hard work, nor is there any real specialized knowledge involved. The only real hardware issues that arise are hard drive related, but this is not a PC specific problem. Anything with moving parts is going to wear down after so many years of constant use.

It seems to me that thee is a lot of hardcore defeatist attitudes involved when downgrading to a Mac. A lot of what I've read in this thread is purely ridiculous and entirely avoidable.
 
I love my macbook pro, it goes with me everywhere, you wouldn't think it, but it's a far superior development system compared to windows, and if you need windows you can run parallels or vmware, and you'll have mac os and whatever other OS you want running side by side ( I haven't tried 3 operating systems at once yet... ie linux,mac, and windows, I don't think I got enough RAM for that)
 
I have home made computers, dell laptop, Asus laptops, etc. I use ubuntu as well (netbook).

With windows 7 I need no other OS. The same isn't true for MAC, which is probably why they sell windows 7 on their website.

Computers can have problems, MACs are no different, quite a few of my friends have macs and most of them have no problems, some have had problems, hard drive failures etc. But a hardware failure is no reason to change OSes, it is a reason to go with a better vendor with better hardware or to replace existing hardware with new (even in laptops).

I saw the comment that MAC is a better development platform. Having experience in programming I must say windows Visual Basic is one of the easiest and most powerful languages out there, as long as your environment is windows (generally it will be). Adobe makes software for development that beats MAC software (final cut etc) and is useable on windows.

I'd just like to point out many of the reasons posted by mac users for using macs are mostly invalid (I dont have viruses, I dont have hardware problems on my Dell laptop either, Macs are actually proven to be easier to hack into as shown at a fairly recent week long event, Vista took 3 days, mac took 12 hours, ubuntu wasn't hacked into for the whole week). If you like cute computers, and you are not computer savvy, right now mac will help you with that issue. If you want one OS to do everything , Windows is still the most versatile OS on the market and the only OS needed.

Hope this helps.
 
Grimspoon said:
I build my own computers, order parts + assemble. Maybe it's because I try to use premium equipment that I've had so much luck over the years. I do regular maintenance - software and physical (dusting, etc.), and I monitor temps to make sure everything is in line. It's not hard work, nor is there any real specialized knowledge involved. The only real hardware issues that arise are hard drive related, but this is not a PC specific problem. Anything with moving parts is going to wear down after so many years of constant use.
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I think you answered your question in large part with this statement. I would not call moving to a Mac a downgrade. I would dare to venture that even with all the memory intense applications/games you are running, you are only using a fraction of your computers capabilities. I will admit, I was caught up in the bigger, better, faster way of thinking that goes along with computers. The reality is, 99% of the population does not need all that hardware. So to say that moving to something with slightly lesser hardware is a downgrade is not very accurate. It may better be stated that they are buying what they need, not what they think they might need someday.

Sure I could do all that you say you are doing and I did on Vista, but I don't have the time or patience to do it. And why should I when I can use my Mac without doing any of it.

I don't understand why there is such animosity towards moving to a Mac coming from the PC crowd. I am kind of an in-betweener (I know that's not a word but it works). I grew up on PC's and Windows my whole life. I still use windows on my Mac which incidentally runs better on my Mac than it ever did on my Dell, which could speak to the quality of hardware. I know enough about computers to know that I was not doing anything wrong or out of the ordinary when my PC froze or I had to reboot it because it would not run a program right. I had security and an internet filter and I performed all the necessary maintenance to keep it running smooth, and it didn't work. So my decision to try Mac was as simple as that; I wanted a computer that I didn't have to tinker with and that is what I have.

I do want to upgrade to Windows 7 now after hearing that most of the issues have been corrected from Vista. Windows does come in handy for some things and it is nice to have both running on one computer.
 
My computer crashed almost a year ago. Purchased an 24 inch model (would have been better off will a smaller model). Will never buy anything but an Apple again. Great product.
 
oeser, it's just the whole mentality of running out and dropping ~1-2k + on a new Mac as soon as the person's computer gets a virus, experiences instability or crashes.

Save the money and learn how to use / maintain a computer properly. I try to keep in mind that a lot of you probably aren't in my age range (in their 20's) and maybe it's not that easy for everyone. I don't know...

My dad used to have a lot of issues with his computers, older computer's I've traditionally handed down to him after I upgrade. I know first hand that the hardware I was giving him was sound, and that the OS was fresh, but issues would always arise.

The problem wasn't with the PC, it was with the user. (Sorry dad!)

After some time and patience, my dad is now pretty comfortable using and maintaining a PC on his own. He didn't have to switch to a Mac, all he had to do was be a little more careful about what he ran / installed / downloaded. Like me, he doesn't even keep a virus scanner running in the background (added performance for the PC) he just does the occasional online virus scan to ensure his computer is still safe.

That's all it takes as far as I'm concerned.
 
Grim, I guess that is what makes this world so great, there are options. When I finally bought a Mac it was only on the advice from my brother who had recently purchased a Mac. He is head of security and software development for a large software company and he runs everything through his Mac. Some of it, for obvious reasons, he has to do through Windows on his Mac.

I spent many years patiently working with a number of PC's and the problems they had. After using my Mac I can finally enjoy using my computer.

I think the money issue is a moot point, especially on a forum where we spend hundreds sometimes thousands of dollars on knives when, in reality, we could do just fine with a $50 Buck knife. Money is just not an issue for me if I am happy with what I have. I am a little older than you (early 30's) so I am young enough to be computer savvy, but old enough to no longer have time to deal with potential problems.

I am only speaking from my experience here. Perhaps yours has been different. I enjoy my Mac and it does everything I need it to and more. BTW, I didn't spend much on mine at all. $1100 about a year and a half ago, and I was able to plug it right into my 30" Dell monitor and go.
 
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