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ATwistedStaple

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"Dirty (insert racial epithet here!)" remarked the pot upon seeing a kettle in the neighborhood.

That's the comment that garnered me a rather substantial infraction for racism. It wasn't edited of course, but was in the Whine&Cheese forum which comes with an offensive comments disclaimer.

Now, if I'd merely used the phrase in quotations as a response to another member, or in most other contexts for that matter I'd absolutely agree that it was racist and offensive. In the context it's used there though I don't see how it could be confused for an act of racism.

The whole point in the old pot and kettle line is to show how ridiculous it is for two very similar entities to call each other names. Here, the racial epithet is used to heighten the absurdity of a pots displeasure with a kettle. So no races nor real people were actually involved and it wasn't used in a reply to any individual.

In my mind it's equivalent to being upset about a Tiger calling a microwave a term generally used as an offensive term for Asians. Ridiculous and satirical, but altogether unoffensive when read as intended.

Morrow refused to discuss it with me in PMs, but suggested I start a thread here.
 
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It sounds like you used a word that no one wants to ever see come up in a search or passing glance, regardless of overall context. Text gets ground up and redistributed constantly through search engines, and that isn't something that needs to be on this site. It is bad enough what a member post search will unearth as it is.
 
RX-79G said:
It sounds like you used a word that no one wants to ever see come up in a search or passing glance, regardless of overall context. Text gets ground up and redistributed constantly through search engines, and that isn't something that needs to be on this site. It is bad enough what a member post search will unearth as it is.
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Fair enough, but the rules make mention of racism itself. Not racial epithets.
 
The whole I'm not a racist these are just my observations plays out pretty good in a comedy club but not with a forum full of faceless strangers when thrown out in a random thread.
 
Still a racist term, no matter how you used it. Done. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.
 
Lets put this imaginary debate you have going on in your head to sleep ATwistedStaple ;0)

You cannot use the N-word on BF EVER, for any reason, no matter the context
 
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I just looked at the post which got the infraction...
How could the OP be surprised at getting an infraction?
The post practically gives itself an infraction!
 
We're not discussing whether or not it's offensive though. We're discussing whether or not my use of it broke forum rules. It didn't.
 
ATwistedStaple said:
We're not discussing whether or not it's offensive though. We're discussing whether or not my use of it broke forum rules. It didn't.
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Yes it did.
It totally, 100% did.
The people who decide that agree that it did.

You are just plain wrong, and need to get over it.
You aren't going to win this one.
 
This ^^ :thumbup::thumbup: It's so seldom you see unified support like this on the internet. Haven't read the OP, but it's seldom that no one jumps on the "not racist" bandwagon. This is one of the many reasons I love this community: there's a clear investment in it being for -- and safe for -- everyone. Thank you all for all you do
 
You are on the wrong side of this one, ATS. If you are wise you will just log off and do something else for a while.
 
This isn't something you're gonna win by arguing technicalities. Despite W&C's mostly free for all nature, it's typically a good idea to have a feel for a place and understanding of the rules before saying things that you likely wouldn't say to a stranger on the street, whether you find it offensive or not.

RX-79G said:
It sounds like you used a word that no one wants to ever see come up in a search or passing glance, regardless of overall context. Text gets ground up and redistributed constantly through search engines, and that isn't something that needs to be on this site. It is bad enough what a member post search will unearth as it is.
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W&C isn't indexed by search engines.
 
John Katt said:
You used the N-word :0/

Could you tell us the exact number of time we are going to need to tell you this before you understand what we are saying :0|


Hopefully its a small number like 25 ;0)
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I didn't ask you what I did. I asked for the rule itself.
 
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