Introducing the Zero Tolerance 0801

THere have been a few comments on the pocket clip. Perhaps I can address this. Clips are a tough design issue. Make a cool clip that flows with the handle, and it will almost assuredly look bad in a reversed position. You can make a one position clip, but it will never please everybody, and some might even consider it lazy. Custom knifemakers have the ability to make a truly left handed or right handled knife, and generally work on a custom order basis, so they have the opportunity to ask what the customer wants and make the pocket clip to fit that person's desires. As a manufacturer, we have to make it work for as many people as possible. In this situation, we chose to make a very functional, utilitarian pocket clip. It is, quite literally, a large version of the pocket clip you see on the Knockout. It's a very functional design, and it works in any position on the handle. I don't think it's beautiful, but I don't think it ruins the knife either. We like to make ZT's with a reversible pocket clip at minimum, and tri or quad carry is better. Unfortunately, the design of the clip suffers somewhat for this, but personally I would take a good functional clip every time.

Most of the time, pocket clips are a compromise - it's a matter of finding a clip that looks good and can be positioned amongst all the other holes and handle features without conflict.
 
Thanks jimmer. I'm personally not offended by any pocket clip due to the fact that it is easily replaceable or modified if the desire is great enough. I for one will not let that deter me from getting one, but others may feel differently. Thanks again for the input.
 
Hey Jimmer. You wouldn't happen to know if ZT managed to locate their scale yet, would you? I'd love to know how much the 0801 weighs.

Thanks bunches. :)
 
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bld522 said:
Hey Jimmer. You wouldn't happen to know if ZT managed to locate their scale yet, would you? I'd love to know how much the 0801 weighs.

Thanks bunches. :)
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From my understanding, weighing a proto will not give you an accurate weight of the knife. Until the production version is out not much of a point to weigh it.
 
Did we ever get confirmation from above about ZTVT(KVT) , it's posted in the original post that it will have ZTVT but in BladeHQ's vid, they state that the rep told them it will not have ZTVT. I'm guessing it will but, I didn't know if we had gotten 100% confirmation.

Thanks,

Nick
 
neverdie36 said:
Did we ever get confirmation from above about ZTVT(KVT) , it's posted in the original post that it will have ZTVT but in BladeHQ's vid, they state that the rep told them it will not have ZTVT. I'm guessing it will but, I didn't know if we had gotten 100% confirmation.

Thanks,

Nick
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It will have KVT opening. When the guy behind the video said that the opening was not like it would be in real life, he was referring to the detent, which on the prototype was really strong. Sorry for the confusion.

Mark
 
neverdie36 said:
Did we ever get confirmation from above about ZTVT(KVT) , it's posted in the original post that it will have ZTVT but in BladeHQ's vid, they state that the rep told them it will not have ZTVT. I'm guessing it will but, I didn't know if we had gotten 100% confirmation.

Thanks,

Nick
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It will indeed have kvt. That's from the horses mouth. I believe bhq explained what the gentleman was referring to very well.
 
BladeHQ said:
It will have KVT opening. When the guy behind the video said that the opening was not like it would be in real life, he was referring to the detent, which on the prototype was really strong. Sorry for the confusion.

Mark
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I heard him say that too, if I remember he was saying that because it was difficult to open, with it being a proto and all
 
jimmer_5 said:
THere have been a few comments on the pocket clip. Perhaps I can address this. Clips are a tough design issue. Make a cool clip that flows with the handle, and it will almost assuredly look bad in a reversed position. You can make a one position clip, but it will never please everybody, and some might even consider it lazy. Custom knifemakers have the ability to make a truly left handed or right handled knife, and generally work on a custom order basis, so they have the opportunity to ask what the customer wants and make the pocket clip to fit that person's desires. As a manufacturer, we have to make it work for as many people as possible. In this situation, we chose to make a very functional, utilitarian pocket clip. It is, quite literally, a large version of the pocket clip you see on the Knockout. It's a very functional design, and it works in any position on the handle. I don't think it's beautiful, but I don't think it ruins the knife either. We like to make ZT's with a reversible pocket clip at minimum, and tri or quad carry is better. Unfortunately, the design of the clip suffers somewhat for this, but personally I would take a good functional clip every time.

Most of the time, pocket clips are a compromise - it's a matter of finding a clip that looks good and can be positioned amongst all the other holes and handle features without conflict.
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I really like that clip, especially with the slight mod that was made. I am curious to know if it functions better. I have an Echelon, was very excited about it and still love the knife but that original deep carry clip ruins it for me. In theory, it was great, a deep carry clip but without that extra bend near the mounting location, the knife does not seat all the way in the pocket. The space is just too small between the screws and the clip to slip over jeans.
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I understand the issues with clips, I am super picky about my clips and am constantly changing them and modifying them. There is really only one stock clip I have found I like. I say go function over looks every time. There are nicer looking clips, but very few are downright ugly (I won't name any :)). I don't own the 560, but that clip looks awesome, as does this one.
 
Am I the only one that thinks you could paint the milled out portions white the flats red and the bolsters blue with stars?
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jimmer_5 said:
THere have been a few comments on the pocket clip. Perhaps I can address this. Clips are a tough design issue. Make a cool clip that flows with the handle, and it will almost assuredly look bad in a reversed position. You can make a one position clip, but it will never please everybody, and some might even consider it lazy. Custom knifemakers have the ability to make a truly left handed or right handled knife, and generally work on a custom order basis, so they have the opportunity to ask what the customer wants and make the pocket clip to fit that person's desires. As a manufacturer, we have to make it work for as many people as possible. In this situation, we chose to make a very functional, utilitarian pocket clip. It is, quite literally, a large version of the pocket clip you see on the Knockout. It's a very functional design, and it works in any position on the handle. I don't think it's beautiful, but I don't think it ruins the knife either. We like to make ZT's with a reversible pocket clip at minimum, and tri or quad carry is better. Unfortunately, the design of the clip suffers somewhat for this, but personally I would take a good functional clip every time.

Most of the time, pocket clips are a compromise - it's a matter of finding a clip that looks good and can be positioned amongst all the other holes and handle features without conflict.
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In this instance, I'll have to disagree. I think the new deep-carry clip that's on the Knockout & Echelon (and formerly on the ZT0780) is beautiful. For me, it's the perfect clip, no doubt. I love this new ZT clip as well, and I think it looks just fine. I'm so glad that there's a lefty option on everything from Kershaw/ZT now going forward, and that clip is so nice, I put it on my CF Blur. It was worth the modification.

Couldn't have asked for a better clip and positioning as far as I'm concerned. Then again, I'm just a strange lefty.
 
jehicks87 said:
Google Zero Tolerance 0801 Pre-Order. First website to come up. I don't think I'm allowed to link anything because I'm not a paying member?
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That's almost right, although I don't think anyone should post about selling/buying/trading in the manufacturers forums? I posted a store and got a 30pt infraction, it pays to read the rules :(. You can send via email or PM though (email for you as you don't have PM without at least a basic membership).

That said, thanks for the tip, pre-ordered mine! I have so many pre-orders, I may be in trouble come summer/fall when they are probably all coming at the same time! "Dear, we are gonna be homeless, but check out these sweet new blades!!!"
 
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