irezumi

To be honest I bought 2 CRKT M16s (new but different seller) and the sharpness was different but nothing some sharpening wouldn't solve.

But that's me, I feel/act differently. I agree, some pics would help to solve this.
 
Excuse me but I fail to see the big hairy problem here...as I see it..

1. you lowballed the price on a Microtech knife
2. the seller accepted your lowball offer
3. you were unhappy with the quality of the knife and told the seller
4. he immediatly offered you a refund and you ship the knife back since he paid for shipping to deliver it..the least you could do is to ship it back and pick up the tab.
5. you decided to keep the knife because your not willing to spend $20 to ship it back that is YOUR choice not the sellers.
6. then you say you got a raw deal??

WTF dude...I think thats kinda outta line.
 
Ren the devils trailboss said:
Excuse me but I fail to see the big hairy problem here...as I see it..

1. you lowballed the price on a Microtech knife
2. the seller accepted your lowball offer
3. you were unhappy with the quality of the knife and told the seller
4. he immediatly offered you a refund and you ship the knife back since he paid for shipping to deliver it..the least you could do is to ship it back and pick up the tab.
5. you decided to keep the knife because your not willing to spend $20 to ship it back that is YOUR choice not the sellers.
6. then you say you got a raw deal??

WTF dude...I think thats kinda outta line.
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If that's factual, a full refund doesn't make him whole if he's out shipping cost to send it back. As one of the prior posters said, without photos, hard to say one way or the other.
 
gotta say, ren seems to have hit the nail on the head. Add to that the raves about irezumi on here and the OP
s relative newness, it's hard to feel all that sympathetic.

Ren the devils trailboss said:
Excuse me but I fail to see the big hairy problem here...as I see it..

1. you lowballed the price on a Microtech knife
2. the seller accepted your lowball offer
3. you were unhappy with the quality of the knife and told the seller
4. he immediatly offered you a refund and you ship the knife back since he paid for shipping to deliver it..the least you could do is to ship it back and pick up the tab.
5. you decided to keep the knife because your not willing to spend $20 to ship it back that is YOUR choice not the sellers.
6. then you say you got a raw deal??

WTF dude...I think thats kinda outta line.
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I am going to be brutally honest here. I haven't heard yet of any production knife company that would pay the shipping for you to send a default knife back to them. Unless you piss and moan about it enough (rather, I should say throw a fit. That phrase fits better the two year old mentality that people have when they don't get what they want). I don't think it's any different in this case. I would have to agree with Ren the devils trailboss.
 
Thanks all...I really appreciate the support. I won't be posting to this thread again. Best to just put this down to a misunderstanding. Cheers...
 
You asked where the knife came from and he answered ...twice.


"It was bought new from Microtech"......

"That knife is 100% brand new from the factory and has never ever been sharpened or cut.".....


Do you really expect every single knife that comes out of any factory to be absolutly identicle?
There are variences.

Yes, you did haggle. Offer followed by acceptance is a deal. offer, counter offer, counter again, acceptance is haggeling.
 
Lets just clarify the whole shipping cost thing...I had a similar experience to this a few years back the buyer was unhappy with the knife. I gave him a full refund but he was upset that I did not pay to have the knife shipped back. So I stated something like this..

1. Ren accepts a low ball offer on a knife for $100 shipped.
2. In reality Ren has accepted a price of $80 for the knife and $20 for shipping
3. Ren makes $80 on the transaction
4. Buyer responds and does not like the knife
5. Ren offers a full refund when knife is shipped back.
6. Ren recieves knife a week later which cost $20 to ship back to Ren
7. Ren refunds $100 the $80 plus the cost of shipping


This is exactly what the seller in this case did and the buyer refused to accept. Shipping costs in my opinion are not part of the cost of the knife. If they are included in the final price it should always be assumed that the seller has sold the knife at a lower price than stated and paid for shipping. It is only fair that if the buyer is unhappy he returns the knife by paying for shipping also.
 
Why would you post that public negative feedback like that, you arse?
I don't know either guys but the OP is in the wrong.
 
swasenko, when you make a deal with someone, you should be sure that every contingency is covered. Make sure you know beforehand who will be paying for shipping if a knife is to be returned. Don't just assume that the seller is going to absorb that cost.
 
I think this thread can die now, and there are enough posts that anyone reading it will see our overwhelming support for Irezumi, and be confident that doing a trade or sale with him will be a great experience. Irezumi's rep is solid, and intact, and we've made sure there is no question about it for anyone in the future.
 
I don't know that I agree with the consensus here. I guess the "no deal is done until both parties are satisfied" doesn't apply here? I have read many threads here where the seller is advised to do what is necessary to make this happen, but that is not what I am reading here.

If everyone thinks the OP's contention that the edge was not factory was not true, then I can see where you're coming from. But the OP's demeanour through this I think has been good, and unless you completely disbelieve his contention about the edge I don't know why the seller contributing $10 for return shipping is out of line.

If the OP's contention is true, than the seller should pay all of the return shipping.

The OP is being derided for "making a lowball offer", yet a deal was worked out, so in my opinion that is not a lowball offer.

I agree that some decent pictures of the edge in question would put it to rest.

Sounds to me like I need to rewrite a disclaimer the next time I want to sell a knife. "Not responsible for delivery unless you pay extra for insurance. Will refund cost of knife only if not happy - will not refund for for return shipping if you are unhappy with it or believe that I misrepresented the knife." Might be tough to make a sale.

Just my $.02

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edited considering the resolution - This should not have been posted in the first place - Props to you, Irezumi!
 
Sounds to me like I need to rewrite a disclaimer the next time I want to sell a knife. "Not responsible for delivery unless you pay extra for insurance. Will refund cost of knife only if not happy - will not refund for for return shipping if you are unhappy with it or believe that I misrepresented the knife." Might be tough to make a sale.
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Better print up contracts to carry around with you every time you go shopping, too. Don't pay for your groceries until they agree to pay for your expenses in returning anything if you decide you are unhappy with it or believe that they misrepresented it.
 
"It is not a deal until both parties are happy" does not include a three day vacation to Aruba, Dinner for two, and new Boat.

Seems the seller has tried to make the other party happy but........................

Photos, photos, photos!!!!

Photos would sure help the shipping issue if the "defect" is obvious.
 
YEs it is easy to tell the difference between belt ground and buffed edge and one somebody has sharpened.

Lets see some pictures!
 
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