Isn there anyone at Buck that checks the quality of the knives anymore ?

I can't seem to find my little camera at the moment,turned the house upside down and never found it,So i'm hopingn the wife knows where it is or i'll be buying a new one tomorrow,I might add that any problems i've had with a buck knife were all since the move to Idaho,any bucks i've owned prior were excellent quality.Something at Buck has changed,and i'm not the only one who has noticed.

Oh,and Plumberdv you might buy a lot of knives ,but i'll bet most of them sit in the box and never even get used,I've got 400 or so buck knives myself,and very few even get used .
 
Bg42 your comment about choosing a good design makes sense. But I would consider the 110 AG a great design.

True.

I think there are probably relatively few problems with the 110s, although I understand there may have been an increase in problems in the past few years.
 
I have 35 Buck Knives (all in the last 10-years) and had one defective Buck Knife from the factory. Joe Houser himself took care of it.:thumbup: So in my experience its 1/35th.;)
 
Hi RB,

Sorry to hear you got a bum AG110. It must have come from Cabelas and can be exchanged by them for free just make a call. Like Buck they have fantastic customer service. If you go the Buck repair route it will cost you shipping and repair time....but, should come back as you expect it to. What ever you decide to do, please talk to the folks at Buck, I think Bill Keys is the man Joe H will have make contact with you. He needs to hear from you, maybe it will help to make a few changes in the shop. Good luck RB and keep us informed on your out come with this issue.

jb4570
 
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I thought of all the usual routes to take,I called cabelas canada,the one i bought was the last one,now on backorder ,she told me it could be months before they can get some more,bummer.I think when you buy a premium knife ,there maybe shoukd be somebody looking at EVERY high end knife outn the door,especiallty a line like the Alaskan Guide series they brag up so much.It was a huge disappointment,mainly because a knife like nthis should NEVER have been out the door for sale.
 
RB,

You need to turn you message function on! Can't PM you.

jb4570
 
I thought of all the usual routes to take,I called cabelas canada,the one i bought was the last one,now on backorder ,she told me it could be months before they can get some more,bummer.I think when you buy a premium knife ,there maybe shoukd be somebody looking at EVERY high end knife outn the door,especiallty a line like the Alaskan Guide series they brag up so much.It was a huge disappointment,mainly because a knife like nthis should NEVER have been out the door for sale.

How about just getting a refund. I can understand being disappointed with the knife you received but is it possible it's been returned more than once and all the issues are do to Cabelas and other owners? The knife is in stock at Cabelas here in the US. All they have to do is get one shipped from a store here or transfered to a store near you. Cabelas needs to make this right since they were the one you bought it from and were the last to have the item in hand before you. For all you know, since you say they told you it was out of stock now you may have gotten a display model that's been through countless hands.
 
Sorry about your situation but this. ^
I recently got back into Buck knives and my last four are spot-on.
Rolf
 
Being careful not to step on toes here, but if you are making a million manufactured pieces of something in one plant, and probably a million more in another location (in a country far, far away...) then you are in the manufacturing business. I think BUCK turns out a fine product and I am glad they stand hard behind their product. But guys, face it, they are in the manufacturing business now, not the knife business. They make extremely affordable utility devices to serve a demand, and knives is what they center on to satisfy it.

I was stunned last year when I went to Bass Pro to spend some Christmas money. I was wanting a 301 and found they had the 301 comfort craft series knife signature series with the Buck signature proudly lasered into the handle scale.

The saleman pulled it off the glass shelf, and the springs weren't quite flush when closed, but that was OK. Not bad. But the spey blade sat higher than it should and literally blocked the nail nick to the sheepsfoot. We were both surprised, he apologised, then got another from under the counter. Same thing. Well, he said, third time is a charm... except it wasn't. All three knives had the same problem. He was an older fella and took a lot of pride in the fact that they let him run the knife department. He took all three off the market and there was no knife for me to buy.

This issue of quality control is one that has been beat to death over in the traditional forum concerning CASE. Many, many folks have expressed their disappointment in CASE these days (and some of course, their joy with them) and there has been thread after thread of supporters and detractors. Seems the unhappy folks have a lot of guys in their camp these days. But this thread is just like the "what happened to CASE threads".

Some guys are in complete disbelief you got a poor knife and demand pictures to satisfy them. Others tout customer service and chide the unhappy recipient with not being fair to CASE by sending it in first and waiting a few weeks to see what they do with the knife (no matter the knife is brand new). Still others will scoff at the unhappy customer and tell them that since their knives are users, poor fit and finish don't bother them a bit. You should be a baby about it.

I am old fashioned myself, and remember through the 60s and 70s and even longer when you could buy a CASE knife with so much confidence that the only reason you opened the box was to make sure they knife was the same model you wanted. Never was there a QC issue. I remember when BUCK was exactly the same. But never will I buy a CASE now I can't hold in my hand, and after looking at so many poor examples CASE fell off my radar years and years ago.

As always, there is an easy solution. NEVER buy a knife from a vendor that doesn't accept easy returns. NEVER buy a knife you cannot handle in person so you can inspect fit/finish. You will pay a bit more most of the time, but your heartburn will go down as well. I am a big fan of BUCK as I only buy working knives. When they are on their game, they are just about impossible to beat for a very sturdy knife regardless of cost. I still have my first and only 119 purchased in '71, and it has seen no mercy in my hands. It is still an excellent knife. As was my old 110 which I gifted out a while back.

Lower your expectations, only buy a knife you can handle, and you will be fine. As with almost all knives (and a lot of other things it seems) these days, it is up to the consumer to do the QC for the manufacturer.

Robert
 
Just look at some other notable companies that had reputations that people were willing to plunk serious $$ for that sold out and now are considered worthless.

There are 3 that I can name off the top of my head.

Buck should have taken note. My dad has a 70s era buck knife that he uses for hunting, and it's a thing of beauty. Holds an edge, skins like a dream. Perfect handle, even now it looks like it's new.

Reputation is priceless, I just don't see why these corporate bean counters don't get about that. You can only sell junk for so long on reputation alone before people start to drop you and look for the next good thing.
 
How about just getting a refund. I can understand being disappointed with the knife you received but is it possible it's been returned more than once and all the issues are do to Cabelas and other owners? The knife is in stock at Cabelas here in the US. All they have to do is get one shipped from a store here or transfered to a store near you. Cabelas needs to make this right since they were the one you bought it from and were the last to have the item in hand before you. For all you know, since you say they told you it was out of stock now you may have gotten a display model that's been through countless hands.

:nod:

Cabela's may have been waiting a long time for the guy that would keep that knife after having everybody else return it.

Maybe they even have special knives they send to Canada.

Make them wait longer.
 
Cabelas U.S doesn't do any business with cabelas canada,and it was a brand new knife,never a display model,not a scratch on it anywhere,and it was in the foam folder all the 110's come with ,tape never broken or removed.I don't want my money back ,I want what i ordered,and that is BUCK KNIVES' fault that i didn't get what i paid for,and noboy elses fault at all.I don't want this knife repaired,I want a new knife made right the first time,Like it should be.Regular production knives should be the ones that are problem prone,not a exclusive line like the Cabelas Alaskan guide series.

I ight be a bit mad right now,but i feel i have that right,how many years has the 110 been built by Buck?Don't you think all the bugs should be worked out by now and every knife out should be right the first time?All this sending them back a brand new /never used knife to have re-worked,when it should have been done right the fisrt time,is getting old.It costs a lot of money to do this now,and could be totally avoided by having some inspector jobs at buck that check each knife BEFORE its sent out to stores.
 
Any company can have one slip through, that shouldn't have. The problem is when it becomes more of the norm. Not saying that is happening with Buck, but if the employees are part of the problem, it needs to be addressed...

Bad QC can destroy a companies reputation quickly, and can be devastating. People don't want to continually hear about great customer service, and have to send a knife back. Granted, it is nice that a company takes care of its customers, which Buck certainly does, but life would be much simpler for everyone involved, if things are done right the first time.

Much like Case, I still wouldn't hesitate to order a new Buck knife. I don't think it is economically feasible to have a person physically check each knife before it goes out the door. It is possible though, to have someone check all the machinery on a regular basis, to make sure everything is still in spec, and randomly check the product as it comes off the line. IMHO, If all the components are in spec, it would eliminate a lot of possibility for poorly fit knives.
 
I don't know how big these companies are - pretty big I suppose. I retired from a 400 worker UAW factory. We supplied parts to major car companies. Each operator that performed a function in the making of a finished part had to put his portion or bit of the part being completed, in polymer tubs or other things like skids.

These had to be hand checked/inspected by the operator who did that portion of finishing the part. The name, date, shift & all that. Then there were several floor inspectors who did nothing but visit with the operators and go through a sampling of what was in the tubs and sign a tag that he had inspected them - name, date, shift.

This took place on materials entering the building until they - sometimes had 5 to 10 things done by separate operators or crews and ended up as finished products. It was not a big deal - just the way our employees were taught.

Any rejected parts coming back in could be traced right to the spot where the complaint to failures were coming from and the problem would solved. Just good & redundant Q.C.
 
And into each life.....a little rain must fall.

Actually, RazorB......although, as you say, this is a real pain, but this is nothing new.

A big part of what's complicating the problem is that you live in Canada. Could be worse. What if you lived in Sudan?

We all take a risk when we buy stuff. It's just tougher for you to get things resolved.

That's the downside of living in the wilderness.

:)
 
Not a word from anyone from Buck on this thread so far,I guess its not important anymore.The way i see it is if each knife is hand sharpened ,then each knife can be hand inspected.Why not?
 
Not a word from anyone from Buck on this thread so far,I guess its not important anymore.The way i see it is if each knife is hand sharpened ,then each knife can be hand inspected.Why not?
precisely what i was thinking, every knife gets an edge put on it by a human being so that could take of your inspection also, or at the buffing stage, etc.
i hope this isnt becoming a chronic problem and hope you get satisfaction on the matter
gene
 
Are the edges on all Buck knives, done by hand ?

That would be an interesting topic for the TV show "How Things Are Made" if any of you have it on your cable's packages. Shows how an item is made from bare bones to the finished product.

It's amazing how many things are made w/o a human hand seemingly involved! :eek:

Btw, what does Canada have to do with RB's problem with in buying "12 new buck knives just in the last 2 months" and everyone being a bad example?

I can only think that a bad lot was sent out and distributed - but more than one man should be complaining about it. Have you Googled it or called Buck? Sorry but I haven't read every post.
 
I own four Buck knives, a Paklite Skinner, 119, 110 and Bucklite. All four were purchased from WalMart over the last few years. Quality is excellent on all of mine. Nice even sharp edges, pointy straight tips, good fit and finish. I think my most expensive one, the 119 cost $29.95, the Bucklite just $10.00. All made in the USA (imported sheaths though) and guaranteed forever.

I'm saving up now for a 110 Alaskan Guide.
 
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