It followed me home (Part 2)

Agent_H said:
Double Bits

I got to work before the weather kicked in. We were sent away with safe wishes. Stopped by one of my haunts on a lark and these two followed me home



I'm not sure of the maker of the larger one. Seems to have some blue-green paint left on it. Looks quite usable after some care. Not wedged properly- just a metal one. It seems on there tightly though. Handle might be usable- it will need some thinning to get the chunk taken from it smoothed out.



The smaller of them seems to be a Walters. The handle looks decent.

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I am pretty sure that large one is a Mann. Look for the stamp about were the paint ends, its small and probably light.

BTW, nice find!
 
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Square_peg said:
I found Fulton was the only listed brand in a Sears catalog dated prior to 1900. In later years catalogs I saw the 'Razor Blade' line described as their top line axe - in their words as high of quality as was available at the time. I think those were an inserted HC steel bit design.
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I suspect this may be the sportsmans hatchet, or what ever they called it. It has some marks that I don't recall seeing before on the top of the axe.

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Agent_H said:


The smaller of them seems to be a Walters. The handle looks decent.
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I like the looks of that axe. I've never liked the look of double bits with an upswept toe (peeling, swamping, reversible, etc.). Give me a Western or Pennsylvania pattern any day.
 






I picked up this Keen Kutter for $20.00at an antique store. The handle is 36 inches. Should make a good restore project.
 
That head has another 2" left before it's seated all the way on that handle... Nice to have that wiggle room for the resto!
 
Nice Keen Kutter. They seem to be scare around here or poeple think they are worth more than they are.
 
Getting back in the groove of things after Basic Training, picked this Sandvik up for 10 bucks today, no deep rust, mostly surface. Edge seems mostly factory. Not a Swedish axe buff, any info on them?
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Sandvik reportedly sold off its Saws and Tools division (including axes) in 1999 to an American company -- Snap-on Tools, which re-named it Bahco. These days they mainly use the Bahco brand, but the Sandvik name is still used on some similar products (like hatchets) in Europe. I'm guessing that before 1999, they were made in Sweden, and after 1999 they could be sourced from Germany or elsewhere.

A forum search for Sandvik will bring give lots of results.

Steve Tall said:
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"In the mid 1990s Snap-On Incorporated, a global manufacturer and distributor of tools, entered the European market by acquiring the Spanish hand tool company Herramientas Eurotools S.A. In 1999, Snap-on acquired the business area Saws & Tools from Sandvik. The acquired business was named Bahco Group AB, a company with 2500 employees.[4]
In 2005 Bahco AB and Herramientas Eurotools S.A. merged, founding SNA Europe with Bahco as the company’s premium brand. Headquarter was established in metropolitan Paris, France."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahco

"1999 - Bahco Group AB is acquired by Snap-on Inc. Kenosha, Wisconsin USA. Snap-on is among the biggest tool companies in the world, founded in 1920 with the same visions as Bahco - to develop tools making the job easier, faster and safer for professionals."
http://www.bahco.com/asp/pubs/index.asp?lngMenuID=1255&lngID=1987
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DarthTaco123 said:
Getting back in the groove of things after Basic Training, picked this Sandvik up for 10 bucks today, no deep rust, mostly surface. Edge seems mostly factory. Not a Swedish axe buff, any info on them?
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I happen to have the exact same one! Still some orange colour left on the head. 1 -2 1/4 stamp is weight in kg and in lbs (ie this is a boy's axe version!). I was with my dad at Beaver Lumber in Ottawa in 1960 when he bought it. The Canadian-made versions (likely Walters) were more expensive, and he always was frugal. Sweden's Bahco Industries is a competitor of Sandvik (both have been around for 120+ years) so it wouldn't surprise if one bought out (or relinquished) the other with regard to making axes due to overall declining sales during the past 40 years.
What you have is bona fide Swedish steel! Not melted down soup cans, ship rudders, engine blocks and hubcaps as to be found in a lot of recent offshore stuff.
Sandviks have a flat-side blade and are easy enough to sharpen with an axe file, especially since your's has not been used on roots and stones. The poll is mushroomed a bit but a grinder will fix that.
Likely you'll wind up doing some rasping/filing/sanding and fitting in order to get a standard US haft on to this but when you're done it'll be the best $10 you've spent on a recreational chopper.
 
Spent some time with the wire brush today. Thought I bought a Lakeside hatchet, its an Eclipse. I had another one a couple years ago that is now a friends. As far as I can remember it seemed to be a good tool. This one also seems to be well made, it appears to be a two piece construction and pretty well done. I have not filed the bit yet, that will tell me alot(Its cold here).
So whats the deal with this brand? Is it also made by Mann like the Lakeside? Was it Montgomery Wards good line or there cheap one?

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I have honestly owned some real good Montgomery Wards products through the years. They don't seem to be brought up much on this forum.
 
Excited to have some good Swedish steel, a nice touch to my mostly-Maine pattern collection. Debating if I want to wire-wheel it or vinegar soak. The wire wheel might just look better.
 
Eclipse was a proprietary name used by a British outfit that marketed/made 'dead simple' hand tools. Neither their saws nor the blades made for them were "junk". Either this head is one of theirs or they (the maker) stole that name! To this day I favour the Eclipse mini-hacksaw I have (at very least 50 years old) over all of the cheesy copies that feature in hardware stores.
 


I found another murder weapon..

Good thing is it's made from an old British saw blade so once I've ground off the teeth and cut the old handle off, prayed its sins back into the abyss I'll likely have enough good steel for either one long full handle knife or two smaller knives!

Looking forward to it actually, nice clean steel with no rust, pits, dents and bends etc for a change! Should make for a good project and I'll pen it up later for cutting.
 
Samon said:
I found another murder weapon..
Good thing is it's made from an old British saw blade so once I've ground off the teeth and cut the old handle off, prayed its sins back into the abyss I'll likely have enough good steel for either one long full handle knife or two smaller knives!

Looking forward to it actually, nice clean steel with no rust, pits, dents and bends etc for a change! Should make for a good project and I'll pen it up later for cutting.
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Not sure this is an 'old British saw blade', looks to be a castoff Starrett "bi-metal cutting" blade from an electric reciprocating saw. If 5-10 years is to be considered old then this qualifies. They generally come in packages of 5 at the local Home Depot if you care to look there. Milwaukee makes particularly good ones but none of them are thick enough except maybe for a modest filet knife!
 
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