Just be polite....

viva la said:
so what can you cut with a sebenza that cant be cut with a gerber?
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its not about a cut or two or three its after the hundreth cut of the day at my work where the gerber wont cut butter. Its about being able to trust the lock on my knife not to fail or have the handle fly off into the woods as seen in the bear grylls test. Nothing is more dangerous then a dull knife right?
 
Ankerson said:
It's not looking down at others, it really isn't.

The problem is that when people buy that junk they TRY and make it out to be more than it really is thinking they got a good deal or something for nothing. ;)

A smart consumer looks at the product or finds a product then goes out an finds a good price on that same product.

A Stupid consumer looks at price 1st before anything else.

Like the old saying goes:

A stupid man will buy the same product over and over.

A smart man will only need to buy it once.
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Well I always look at price first and then start from there to maximize the product I can get for the lowest price. Some of us aren't rich and price is the primary factor unfortunately.


For the people with mtechs, gerbers, and S&W knives (brand names apparently), I usually just play along with their demonstrations (these are the people who usually clip folders to their belts with the handling exposed to the outside using the clip. If it works for them it is fine with me because many of them don't do heavy cutting. Then there are those who aren't knowledgeable with materials and think the aforementioned are comparable with Spydercos, SOGs, ect. that I dislike but still play along with. When they handle higher end blades they might deny the quality difference outwardly but inwardly they go home and look up what they just handled.
 
edcrefiner said:
Well I always look at price first and then start from there to maximize the product I can get for the lowest price. Some of us aren't rich and price is the primary factor unfortunately.


For the people with mtechs, gerbers, and S&W knives (brand names apparently), I usually just play along with their demonstrations (these are the people who usually clip folders to their belts with the handling exposed to the outside using the clip. If it works for them it is fine with me because many of them don't do heavy cutting. Then there are those who aren't knowledgeable with materials and think the aforementioned are comparable with Spydercos, SOGs, ect. that I dislike but still play along with. When they handle higher end blades they might deny the quality difference outwardly but inwardly they go home and look up what they just handled.
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Don't have to be rich to afford $400 knives. ;)

It's called saving up and not going into debt to BUY them.

Some of us aren't rich believe me and we do have some nice stuff, but we didn't buy it all over night.

It about knowing what you want, what you really want and going for it.

Sure there are things I want that are very expensive like a Rolex say just as an example...... But I know that I can't afford one, and never really will no matter what I do and I can live with that, but then we are talking thousands not a few hundred dollars.
 
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kickplate69 said:
I've had a few experiences where a friend or aquaintance that knows im into knives and guns show me their favorite piece. Have a friend that showed me his s&w folder that he was really proud of. Had another friend show me his Hi-point 9mm like it was a sig 210. Im not interested in being a snob, so Im not, but inside im like, "if you only knew....." On the outside, I act interested, because if you show you care, then as they get more knowledgeable, then usually they start getting nicer gear, usually because of the stuff I have that they see. So just be polite.....
Any of you have friends showing you their hillbilly steel? Did you just want to roll your eyes?
Oh yeah, my brother in law who is a doctor for hell sakes, shows off his gerber paraframe to me like it is a fine tuned machine. I almost puked all over the wall. My wife later on that night in private got an earfull of how horrible it must be to think that piece of crap was worth any pocket time at all. ( See, I am a snob on the inside for real ). Darn you, bladeforums-its all your fault!!
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thats exactly how i feel. i have become quite a snob over the past year and a half.
 
Agreed, saving is key. I had to save up for a while for even a $120 knife on this college budget. Too many people it seems go into debt nowadays to buy things they can barely afford to pay back. Some of my fellow students don't even have an income and just squander their parents money on Sebs and whatnot while I have to work and save for a mid-higher end Spydie.
 
edcrefiner said:
Agreed, saving is key. I had to save up for a while for even a $120 knife on this college budget. Too many people it seems go into debt nowadays to buy things they can barely afford to pay back. Some of my fellow students don't even have an income and just squander their parents money on Sebs and whatnot while I have to work and save for a mid-higher end Spydie.
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It will get better once you are out of College hopefully, just set goals on what you want and you will get there.

Saving up for something and buying it with your own money is very satisfying, more so that just taking out the plastic and going into debt for it.
 
On the other side of this topic, it's really cool to see somebody with a Mini Grip or Delica sticking out of their pocket even though they don't obsess about knives like we do. Some people like quality things so they research about knives for all of 5 minutes before deciding to go with something that is great in quality and value. My cousin pulled a Benchmade Torrent out of his pocket last year while hiking and I nearly fell of my log when I saw it because it caught me so off guard!
 
A knife isn't a POS if you are happy with the Pee-ooh-you (herher), how well it sharpens up and if makes you happy to use it. I don't have crap loads of cash, so I carry a tenacious and a small slipjoint spydie. I like them , they carry a nice edge...and they cut :) I, like many other people I would venture, simply do not have the cash available to drop 100-800 on what amounts to a small piece of steel with a handle. I am not bashing the high-end EDC'ers, but it doesn't make you any more or less American if you walk around with a $30 chunk of production steel on your hips as opposed to $1000.
 
We're the minority. Most peeple are concerned with how " cool" the knife is and how little they paid for it. You can tell this when you pull out a decent knife and they are either amazed and/or think you're nuts when you tell them what you paid for it.

Best to just keep your mouth shut and opinions to yourself unless they're genuinely interested. I have only a basic knowledge of knife steels for example and am usually light years ahead of anyone I run into. You try to explain it and it's way over their head.

If someone is happy with what they bought , no matter what you think...live and let live. Don't make them feel bad about it ,Imo.
 
KennyB said:
I remember I poked a little fun at some guy's Hi-Point 9mm Carbine. Said it looked like a BB gun. He pointed the muzzle at my face and said, "Does that look like a BB gun!"
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I certainly hope you knocked his teeth out with the bloody thing.

I remember being on the receiving end of some knife snobbery a couple times at work...Once, I was using a Vic Pioneer at work and got chirped by my boss because my knife 'Didn't have a lock and would close on my fingers.'

Another time, a coworker noticed that I was using my Manix 2 to cut something or another and he asked to have a closer look at it. He turned it over in his hands for a bit, tried fruitlessly to disengage the lock, and gave it back. He tells me "Yeah, that's alright, but have a look at THIS!" and pulls out a half-serrated SOG Flash-2 with some kind of camouflage coating on the blade. "Check this out, it's a 200$ SOG knife, and the lock is so strong you can like stick it in a wall and stand on it!" :rolleyes: I replied that it was a very cool knife and gave it back to him.
 
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timbit said:
A knife isn't a POS if you are happy with the Pee-ooh-you (herher), how well it sharpens up and if makes you happy to use it. I don't have crap loads of cash, so I carry a tenacious and a small slipjoint spydie. I like them , they carry a nice edge...and they cut :) I, like many other people I would venture, simply do not have the cash available to drop 100-800 on what amounts to a small piece of steel with a handle. I am not bashing the high-end EDC'ers, but it doesn't make you any more or less American if you walk around with a $30 chunk of production steel on your hips as opposed to $1000.
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A lot of people really do have it and refuse to spend it on a knife also, there are more of them out there than people who don't have the money.

People spend a lot of money on different things, they will blow countless thousands on the latest gadget, clothing item, and other stuff while carrying a flea market knife, I have seen this 1st hand so many times....

And they will be wearing a $10,000 watch, driving a $100,000 car, the wife has a $100,000 car too, wearing $8,000 worth of clothes and then tell me that a $100 knife costs too much.

I know people that tip out more than $400 in a day....

Yeah.....

Then there are the more normal people who spend $400+ a month on booze and going out ect and carry a gas station knife.... Heck they spend at least half that just eating out everyday at lunch.

They also have to have the latest gadget or they pour thousands into their car to make it look or sound cool.....

The money is there..... ;)

If they are Gamers and use a PC their Graphics Card could cost more than $300 - $400+ .

Look what happens every time Apple comes out with a new expensive gadget.... And that stuff isn't cheap either... You could buy a Sebenza and have change left over most of the time.
 
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ya know, i work with this guy. he's pretty slow.. like. forest gump slow. good guy, just not the sharpest tool in the shed.

anywho, he was asking me to cut stuff [benchmade 805 tsek in m390] and i told him he should carry his own knife. he mentions he has one but its a pile of sh!t. well next time we work he pulls out said pile to cut open his sandwich and i ask to see it. sure enough its an AG RUSSEL tanto beasty in vg10. tip is busted and she's been beaten pretty well, but I was astonished to see he had a recognizable name, respected no less, that dared to state steel. if it didn't look like it'd be a full time job redoing that tip and putting a decent edge on it, i'd have offered to sharpen it for him
 
Dorito Monk said:
I certainly hope you knocked his teeth out with the bloody thing.

I remember being on the receiving end of some knife snobbery a couple times at work...Once, I was using a Vic Pioneer at work and got chirped by my boss because my knife 'Didn't have a lock and would close on my fingers.'

Another time, a coworker noticed that I was using my Manix 2 to cut something or another and he asked to have a closer look at it. He turned it over in his hands for a bit, tried fruitlessly to disengage the lock, and gave it back. He tells me "Yeah, that's alright, but have a look at THIS!" and pulls out a half-serrated SOG Flash-2 with some kind of camouflage coating on the blade. "Check this out, it's a 200$ SOG knife, and the lock is so strong you can like stick it in a wall and stand on it!" :rolleyes: I replied that it was a very cool knife and gave it back to him.
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C'mon DM, you were laughing on the inside, admit it! :D
 
KennyB said:
I remember I poked a little fun at some guy's Hi-Point 9mm Carbine. Said it looked like a BB gun. He pointed the muzzle at my face and said, "Does that look like a BB gun!"
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I guess that's called the hillbilly supreme court,wow that's crazy
 
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I usually don't say anything. The times I have had conversations with collectors they're usually talking about a $20 Chinese special where I'm talking about my $200 Gossman. No one I know is into the types of knives I am so there's really no interest for me in persuing a conversation about them. I wouldn't say I'm a snob necessarily on what type of knife or how expensive it is however I am a snob to someone showing me a dull knife that's beat to hell. Never will understand why people would even carry a knife when it doesn't cut anything.:rolleyes:
 
Ankerson said:
A lot of people really do have it and refuse to spend it on a knife also, there are more of them out there than people who don't have the money.

People spend a lot of money on different things, they will blow countless thousands on the latest gadget, clothing item, and other stuff while carrying a flea market knife, I have seen this 1st hand so many times....

And they will be wearing a $10,000 watch, driving a $100,000 car, the wife has a $100,000 car too, wearing $8,000 worth of clothes and then tell me that a $100 knife costs too much.

I know people that tip out more than $400 in a day....

Yeah.....

Then there are the more normal people who spend $400+ a month on booze and going out ect and carry a gas station knife.... Heck they spend at least half that just eating out everyday at lunch.

They also have to have the latest gadget or they pour thousands into their car to make it look or sound cool.....

The money is there..... ;)

If they are Gamers and use a PC their Graphics Card could cost more than $300 - $400+ .

Look what happens every time Apple comes out with a new expensive gadget.... And that stuff isn't cheap either... You could buy a Sebenza and have change left over most of the time.
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What it comes down to is that people CAN buy the stuff that is important to them. For a lot of us, it's knives. My brother is a good example. In his opinion, $50 buys a damn nice knife. For me, I call it lower end to middling at best. He thinks I'm nuts for dropping $150 on a fishing reel, $100 on a fishing rod, or $150 on a knife. Or, when I was into guns (more than I am now) $1000 or more on a rifle/scope combo. Yet, he thinks nothing of spending $650 on his latest pool cue or paying a couple hundred to get the newest cell phone on the market. I tell him "DUDE you spend $650 on a piece of WOOD?." Now that's nuts! :eek:
 
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