Just be polite....

I been laughed at for my knives before .. I carry old fashioned ones that will rust if I dont oil them now and then .

The guys who laughed have expensive stainless steel knives that feature in knife magazines , and sharpen them with sharpening systems .. not a primitive hand stone , that would risk damage to the iraq desert cam genuine authentic finish , and besides , no real knife pro in any infomercial or who writes for any sports magazine uses a stone free hand , they use specially endorsed sharpening systems .

Their efforts to encourage me to buy higher quality gear didnt work , my efforts to talk about things as abstract as actual knife usage were kind of confusing to them ..

Horses for courses , I live in a fairly rural area and use a knife a lot , far different to these people who carry high dollar knives , worry about damaging finishes and resale value of their knives . I doubt they will ever understand my part of the knife world , just as I have no wish to enter their part of it .

We just be polite to each other and walk away with both of us saying about the other " what the hell ??? they havent got a clue "

Tolerance is the key :) that and not telling them they are twits when they so blatantly are . But then , this is what being friends with people from all walks is about , besides , mall ninjas make me look less dangerous :)
 
I have found that i am able to keep from be overly insulting because I'm still new at this and i was the one that would have been carrying cheap Chinese crap not to long ago. I only hope as i get more and more educated i can remember that i started with cheap crap and now I'm on to bigger and better things. Hopefully they might take the same path.
 
Myal said:
I been laughed at for my knives before .. I carry old fashioned ones that will rust if I dont oil them now and then .

The guys who laughed have expensive stainless steel knives that feature in knife magazines , and sharpen them with sharpening systems .. not a primitive hand stone , that would risk damage to the iraq desert cam genuine authentic finish , and besides , no real knife pro in any infomercial or who writes for any sports magazine uses a stone free hand , they use specially endorsed sharpening systems .

Their efforts to encourage me to buy higher quality gear didnt work , my efforts to talk about things as abstract as actual knife usage were kind of confusing to them ..

Horses for courses , I live in a fairly rural area and use a knife a lot , far different to these people who carry high dollar knives , worry about damaging finishes and resale value of their knives . I doubt they will ever understand my part of the knife world , just as I have no wish to enter their part of it .

We just be polite to each other and walk away with both of us saying about the other " what the hell ??? they havent got a clue "

Tolerance is the key :) that and not telling them they are twits when they so blatantly are . But then , this is what being friends with people from all walks is about , besides , mall ninjas make me look less dangerous :)
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LOL amen!
 
Myal said:
Horses for courses , I live in a fairly rural area and use a knife a lot , far different to these people who carry high dollar knives , worry about damaging finishes and resale value of their knives . I doubt they will ever understand my part of the knife world , just as I have no wish to enter their part of it .
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That bothers me too. I don't see any point to owning or even carrying a knife you're afraid to use. There's no point to super steel if you never use it.
 
I agree, but different strokes for different folks. We were all newbe's in the knife world at some point. Just remember-we all have one thing in common-we all like/love knives & edged weapons & tools. My preference is considered "cheap" by many, but the same collection is also considered "wayyy too expensive" by just as many. Mine are users as well. I have pounded/batoned most of mine through firewood, chopped with em & just generally used the heck outta them. Use/abuse = tomato/tamato. My preference is: high quality, made in the USA, full width, full tang, thick, wide blades that can take a beatin, for under $100. But i do own a few that are not in that catagory, but i have not broke them yet either.
 
This may have already been said, as I didn't read but the first page before deciding to post.:)

Most people just don't love knives as the group here at BF does. It's that love of all things sharp that drive us to spend more and more to attain the best. The majority of the population are satisfied with their flea-market, hardware store, or even gas station knife. As said, many of these same people really think that they have an excellent knife and want to show it off to anybody who will take a minute to look at it. Most of the time it is only the true knifenuts who will take time to look at it.

By nature, I'm a very polite person, and try to come up with something positive to say about the knife. When said knife gets dull, blade begins to wobble, pieces begin to fall off, this is where I start talking about a better knife that could be had for maybe double the price paid for the cheapie. Then I leave it up to them to do so, or to go back and buy another cheapie. It's amazing to me how many times people will go back and get another cheapie, hoping for some miracle that the new knife will last a lifetime. You know the Bible speaks of a dog returning to eat it's own vomit...............;):)
 
After reading through a few pages, I just wanted to say that there are cheap knives, and there are inexpensive knives. The former generally fall apart with some use, while the latter can/will handle the things you need a knife to do. They may need to be sharpened more often, and/or the locks......if so equipped....may not work as well, and by this I mean that the lock may allow vertical play due to faster wear, but still hold the blade locked. So don't put cheap and inexpensive in the same category.:thumbup::)

Agreed with that definition Ankerson!:D
 
cutter17 said:
After reading through a few pages, I just wanted to say that there are cheap knives, and there are inexpensive knives. The former generally fall apart with some use, while the latter can/will handle the things you need a knife to do. They may need to be sharpened more often, and/or the locks......if so equipped....may not work as well, and by this I mean that the lock may allow vertical play due to faster wear, but still hold the blade locked. So don't put cheap and inexpensive in the same category.:thumbup::)

Agreed with that definition Ankerson!:D
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What is the difference if one person carries a $500 knife and it's nothing more than pocket jewelry and the other person carries a $20 knife that is really used?

The difference is one is nothing more than a paper weight and the other is a tool.

I would have a lot more respect for the person with that $20 knife that is all scratched up and worn from real use than the other person with that $500 knife that is nothing more than pocket jewelry that still looks NIB because it's never been used for more than a toy. The really funny thing is the person would owns that pocket jewerly doesn't really know if that $500 knife is really any better than the $20 knife because it never gets used for more than a toy. That person with that $20 knife doesn't either because it still looks NIB. ;)

It's very hard to convince someone to change if that expensive knife you are showing them doesn't have any wear on it, if it doesn't have any real use behind it how could you convince someone else to buy one that really uses their knives?

Think about that one.......
 
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I use mine. If you want to collect get stamps they're cheaper :D.This is more of everday tasks though
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this leylands came in from S.C. I don't know why they used these straps to hold trunk and roots in place in root ball. The problem is they won't dissenagrate,I had to swap them out for this kerosene treated twine . Even though its treated it will dissenagrate under soil in six months.
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We've all got to start someplace. There's no need to be rude. Honey works better than vinegar.
I had an mTech. After ~ 3 weeks in my pocket, the screws fell out. Got a (China-made) SOG because it was cheap, and better built than the mTech. It's still with me, but I decided it's too big to EDC. Moved to some popular Kershaws. For a month, I thought "that's about all I'll ever need." Now I EDC a BM 940, and have a couple Spydies. Yes, I'd love a CRK or Hinderer. No, I can't currently justify it, because I haven't found any situation or area where my BM's or Spydies aren't up to the task.

At a family reunion recently, my older brother (who is not nearly as obsessive about such things as me) had a cheapie Chinese blade. I admired it, and before I could even say anything, he said it's because he's already lost 2 expensive BM balisongs. So he made a choice that works for him. My little brother, who's never shown an interest in such things, pulled out his Native. I was impressed.

Before you go deriding someone's "POS", you should try to understand where they're coming from. It never hurts to help point them in the right direction, but first you ought to try to earn their respect.
 
tjswarbrick said:
We've all got to start someplace. There's no need to be rude. Honey works better than vinegar.
I had an mTech. After ~ 3 weeks in my pocket, the screws fell out. Got a (China-made) SOG because it was cheap, and better built than the mTech. It's still with me, but I decided it's too big to EDC. Moved to some popular Kershaws. For a month, I thought "that's about all I'll ever need." Now I EDC a BM 940, and have a couple Spydies. Yes, I'd love a CRK or Hinderer. No, I can't currently justify it, because I haven't found any situation or area where my BM's or Spydies aren't up to the task.

At a family reunion recently, my older brother (who is not nearly as obsessive about such things as me) had a cheapie Chinese blade. I admired it, and before I could even say anything, he said it's because he's already lost 2 expensive BM balisongs. So he made a choice that works for him. My little brother, who's never shown an interest in such things, pulled out his Native. I was impressed.

Before you go deriding someone's "POS", you should try to understand where they're coming from. It never hurts to help point them in the right direction, but first you ought to try to earn their respect.
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Great sentiment there. Many people forget that respect is a two-way street; you have to give it in order to get it.
 
Here is one for the nay sayers that say no one uses their busses.
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Im alwaays polite. I usally sharpen their cheap o knives in hopes they crave a sick edge for longer and upgrade. This reminds me of a guy at the gym yesterday who went on for a half hour how great the godsmack show was he just went to. I wanted to vomit but I held it down and just shook my head up and down and said yeah they're good
 
I had a kid once show me with pride his "50 dollar bowie knife". It was a Ruko, with a back serration and one of the ugliest faux-stag handles I've ever seen. I asked him if it was full tang and he said he didn't know what that was. I asked him what kind of steel it was made of and he said "stainless". So I gently steered him in the direction of a few better knives and knife companies, and I did it all without laughing at him or hurting his feelings. Everyone takes pride in their stuff, and it doesn't help them to laugh or say "What a piece of junk!" even if it is.
 
Ankerson said:
What is the difference if one person carries a $500 knife and it's nothing more than pocket jewelry and the other person carries a $20 knife that is really used?

The difference is one is nothing more than a paper weight and the other is a tool.

I would have a lot more respect for the person with that $20 knife that is all scratched up and worn from real use than the other person with that $500 knife that is nothing more than pocket jewelry that still looks NIB because it's never been used for more than a toy. The really funny thing is the person would owns that pocket jewerly doesn't really know if that $500 knife is really any better than the $20 knife because it never gets used for more than a toy. That person with that $20 knife doesn't either because it still looks NIB. ;)

It's very hard to convince someone to change if that expensive knife you are showing them doesn't have any wear on it, if it doesn't have any real use behind it how could you convince someone else to buy one that really uses their knives?

Think about that one.......
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Quoted for posterity. :thumbup:
 
A guy at my work was flashing of his no-named, China made knife. It had a HUGE amount of blade play, felt cheap, and the linerlock was garbage. I didn't say anything bad, but I showed him my Delica 4 and he still thought his was better lol.
 
Another point to consider before we look down upon or criticize someone's poor blade choice. I am sure we all have what other people would consider crappy/ junk items that just work for us whether it is clothing, a car, a bicycle, house, ect...
 
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