just picked up a buck vantage paperstone- very disappointed

Nope. Don't own one. Which is also irrelevant, because the thread is about the experience of the OP, not mine.
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Ughh, I will take exception with this comment. How can even argue you're point without some familarity with a Vantage knife.

And the thread is really now about your point that you believe Buck is not providing a competative knife at the price point noted by the OP and my disagreement with your opinion.
 
Flatlander1963 said:
Can I summarize that all this as "Shecky doesn't think he gets value for his money with a Buck Knife." Not sure how you say this since you don't own a Buck. Also, even if price is the only criteria for a comparison between a chinese and american knife you won't be comparing apples to apples. But lets not travel down that path.

Just give me a $20 knife you'd like to compare to a $20 Vantage. You didn't do it with this response above.
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Kershaw O So Sweet
Kershaw Scamp
Byrd Cara Cara FRN
Byrd Meadowlark FRN
SanRenMu 908
SanRenMu 902

I've handled, owned or used all of them. They're all Chinese made, and would compare favourably to a large Vantage Select, and are all widely available at or below $20 (on eBay from reputable sellers).
 
Flatlander1963 said:
Can I summarize that all this as "Shecky doesn't think he gets value for his money with a Buck Knife." Not sure how you say this since you don't own a Buck. Also, even if price is the only criteria for a comparison between a chinese and american knife you won't be comparing apples to apples. But lets not travel down that path.

Just give me a $20 knife you'd like to compare to a $20 Vantage. You didn't do it with this response above.
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i feel like i got a great value out of my buck vantage(s)...i paid $43 for my first pro...and thats S30V.

i think the best knife for $20 is the becker bk13 remora. american made(doesnt matter to me). but it is a fixed blade.
or maybe a CRKT drifter. but thats under $20.
or matbe the kershaw scamp for $25.
damn who says you cant get alot for a little.
 
jekostas said:
Kershaw O So Sweet
Kershaw Scamp
Byrd Cara Cara FRN
Byrd Meadowlark FRN
SanRenMu 908
SanRenMu 902

I've handled, owned or used all of them. They're all Chinese made, and would compare favourably to a large Vantage Select, and are all widely available at or below $20 (on eBay from reputable sellers).
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The SanRenMu's are blatant knockoffs which is to say stolen intellectual property. Let's keep this to a knife that's its own pattern at least.

I'll try to get the Buck from Walmart tomorrow. I'll post the price paid and you guys that want to suggest a chinese made knife with a comparable pattern (linerlock, similar blade length) for the same price and we are in business for a comparison; feature to feature. :thumbup:
 
Here's is SanRenMu's most blatant rip off design.
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Here's one from buck
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Wait, so the entirety of the SanRenMu line, including the 902 and 908 are knockoffs of the Sebenzas?

I must have gotten some kind of severe head injury along the way and completely lost my ability to recognize patterns.


frontline29 said:
Here's is SanRenMu's most blatant rip off design.
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Different blade shape, different size, different thumbstud placement, different rivet placement, different finger choil, different materials, different weights, different jimping, different grind pattern, different handles.

Yeah, TOTAL RIP OFF.
 
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You know what, fuck it all. This board is a bunch of loonies, retards, rednecks and insular psychopaths.

Mods, feel free to permanently ban this account. I'm not coming back.
 
jekostas said:
You know what, f*@$ it all. This board is a bunch of loonies, retards, rednecks and insular psychopaths.

Mods, feel free to permanently ban this account. I'm not coming back.
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Good riddance! You wont be missed. ;)

Edit to add: I wonder who the guest is?:rolleyes:
 
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jekostas said:
You know what, fuck it all. This board is a bunch of loonies, retards, rednecks and insular psychopaths.

Mods, feel free to permanently ban this account. I'm not coming back.
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Bye,you wont be missed at all.
 
Flatlander1963 said:
Just give me a $20 knife you'd like to compare to a $20 Vantage. You didn't do it with this response above.
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I don't have a dog in this fight, but it does lead me to make a comment....

I bought (not really on purpose, but that's a long story) a Kershaw "Half-Ton" a while back for about $15. I naturally had very low expectations. I expected to put it on a shelf and save it as a "give away" knife.

Well, I was floored. The blade grind, fit, finish, lock-up and apparent quality was easily up there with a lot of MUCH more expensive knives. I had also just purchased an Emerson Commander. The $15 Kershaw had a smoother pivot and a better lock-up. :eek: I'm not saying I prefer the Kershaw to the Commander, but I don't want to give this thing away!

Anyway, the first thing that came to mind as I marvelled over the knife was, how could this knife be so nice for $15? [Not only how could it be so nice, but how could you make ANY product like this in China, package it, ship it half way around the world, distribute it to dealers (who will share the profit) sell it for fifteen bucks and still make money?]

I'm amazed that domestic knife companies are able to compete. But they do! It's a tough battle, but they're tougher! :thumbup:

And as a tribute to the US knife makers, I bought two new Lone Wolfs today (and take delivery of my very first Randall tomorrow!). :D

Stay sharp,
desmobob
 
jekostas said:
You know what, fuck it all. This board is a bunch of loonies, retards, rednecks and insular psychopaths.

Mods, feel free to permanently ban this account. I'm not coming back.
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Most of the psychopaths leave....usually in a fit of total frustration.
 
desmobob said:
I don't have a dog in this fight, but it does lead me to make a comment....

I bought (not really on purpose, but that's a long story) a Kershaw "Half-Ton" a while back for about $15. I naturally had very low expectations. I expected to put it on a shelf and save it as a "give away" knife.

Well, I was floored. The blade grind, fit, finish, lock-up and apparent quality was easily up there with a lot of MUCH more expensive knives. I had also just purchased an Emerson Commander. The $15 Kershaw had a smoother pivot and a better lock-up. :eek: I'm not saying I prefer the Kershaw to the Commander, but I don't want to give this thing away!

Anyway, the first thing that came to mind as I marvelled over the knife was, how could this knife be so nice for $15? [Not only how could it be so nice, but how could you make ANY product like this in China, package it, ship it half way around the world, distribute it to dealers (who will share the profit) sell it for fifteen bucks and still make money?]

I'm amazed that domestic knife companies are able to compete. But they do! It's a tough battle, but they're tougher! :thumbup:

And as a tribute to the US knife makers, I bought two new Lone Wolfs today (and take delivery of my very first Randall tomorrow!). :D

Stay sharp,
desmobob
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Oh I don't believe anyone thinks its a real fight but the hothead who just gave us the finger.

And yes the Chinese are making some good knives. LOL, I'm interested to see what the final pick is for the comparison.
 
all hood allen said:
haha. god damn. what was the OP?..
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Well, he said:

when i got home i started to play with it and realized how much i hated the knife. it was really uncomfortable and slow so i took it apart and oiled it up with rem oil and that helped a little. also it was so off center that it touched the liner and when adjusted, so that it didn't hit the liner, it was too stiff to use the flipper. i also found that the flipper was quite small and hard to use. the lock up was great but the liner lock engaged extremely late, almost touching the other liner. the lock itself was also really hard to disengage. when the blade is deployed it is at a noticeable angle because of how late the lock engages. pretty much the only thing that i like about it is pocket clip.
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Not really a question, lets call it a mini-review.
In all fairness it sounds like Mr. Dylan got one with issues and should send it in to Buck. I feel certain they will replace it with a new knife with no issues. It does happen. It's not the norm.
 
Flatlander1963 said:
In all fairness it sounds like Mr. Dylan got one with issues and should send it in to Buck. I feel certain they will replace it with a new knife with no issues. It does happen. It's not the norm.
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hell yeah. should have spent a little more and got the avid. i almost like it more than the pro...almost.
 
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