Just saw this.....Bark River is no more?

Jdottinger said:
The fact that DLT is still selling BRK’s at full price or at all really rubs me the wrong way. They’re too invested in the Mikey Stewart business, essentially business partners. I could be far off base but to me, the right thing to do would be to pull them all until you can verify the material is as described. They made their own bed by getting into business with him. Mikes word is trash and he admits to lying and deceiving people yet they act as if that’s the only lie he told.
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I'll agree I just looked and they're still selling them at full price knowing they are likely not what they're supposed to be.
 
Jdottinger said:
The fact that DLT is still selling BRK’s at full price or at all really rubs me the wrong way. They’re too invested in the Mikey Stewart business, essentially business partners. I could be far off base but to me, the right thing to do would be to pull them all until you can verify the material is as described. They made their own bed by getting into business with him. Mikes word is trash and he admits to lying and deceiving people yet they act as if that’s the only lie he told.
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Someone will probably correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the guy from DLT said they were going to be paying to send them to NSM for testing, though I doubt they'll be shipping every single knife. Probably a few of each model?

Course, having said that, I have no explanation as to why they're still listed for full price. Maybe it'd be too much of a pain to delist everything then list it again after testing? Beats me. I'm just relaying what I read.

Edit: found it on Facebook.
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draggat said:
Who is Bill Janke and how does he know that the knives he listed were actually made with Chinese kits?

I probably should have done my homework, I recently picked up a few BRK's with no knowledge of the company or any of the controversy. Genuinely clueless. I guess I just hope the steel is okay. 😵

Good luck to the employees! I genuinely wish them well.
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I’m wondering if this blade kit offering is related to our discussion https://knifemaking.com/products/sanantonio-bowie-blade?variant=40616223834248
 
Can someone explain to me why DLT should discount the product and/or take it down from their website?
 
Blues said:
Oy vey...

Here we go...
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Seriously. I can’t figure out why DLT is being grouped in with BRK.

I have paid for steel to be sent to a maker to make knives for me. I have no idea of their business practises.

So a legit question. I’m not trying to cause problems.
 
Sharp & Fiery said:
Seriously. I can’t figure out why DLT is being grouped in with BRK.

I have paid for steel to be sent to a maker to make knives for me. I have no idea of their business practises.

So a legit question. I’m not trying to cause problems.
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I know that Coleman...I hope you know I was just having a little fun with my reply.
 
Sharp & Fiery said:
Seriously. I can’t figure out why DLT is being grouped in with BRK.

I have paid for steel to be sent to a maker to make knives for me. I have no idea of their business practises.

So a legit question. I’m not trying to cause problems.
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Maybe the concern is guilt by association, or perhaps a few people here are having a hard time believing dlt was completely in the dark about all of MS practices? These aren't necessarily my opinions but I feel they do have some weight to them.
People here have been aware of MS unethical business practices for a long time and they arent business partners BRK but somehow dlt didnt know at all? To me that's a little suspicious
 
SharpBits said:
After all the truth coming out, no one can trust what is marked on the blades if they come from BRK. They are no longer worth full price. IMO, at least.
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My not wanting them is based upon the integrity (or lack thereof) of the owner. I don't care what steel they're made from.

I've never been tempted.
 
Blues said:
My not wanting them is based upon the integrity (or lack thereof) of the owner. I don't care what steel they're made from.

I've never been tempted.
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I’ve already have 4, so I’m out of luck on that front. Only 2 are BRK, 1 Blackjack, and 1 Scagel. Zero value now as I won’t pass them on to anyone else.
 
I kinda feel like it's less what they're made from, and more that they're not what they say they are. If I'm paying for CPM154, I want CPM154. It'd be like ordering a hamburger and the restaurant serving you a mushroom burger while telling you that no, it is, in fact, a hamburger.
 
Sharp & Fiery said:
Seriously. I can’t figure out why DLT is being grouped in with BRK.

I have paid for steel to be sent to a maker to make knives for me. I have no idea of their business practises.

So a legit question. I’m not trying to cause problems.
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If you knew that your product may not be in the steel you are advertising it to be, how can you in good faith sell it to someone telling them it is said steel?

I'd also add, it does say something that they aligned themselves so tightly to him in the first place despite his long and well known reputation. Knowing he can't be trusted, knowing he lies about steels, and origin, dealing with customers from the last decade reporting incorrect steels, it makes sense why I think people devalue the knives. Hell they don't even know if they are the correct steel or if they were made from a Pakistani knife at a flea market.
 
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ShaiHulud said:
Maybe the concern is guilt by association, or perhaps a few people here are having a hard time believing dlt was completely in the dark about all of MS practices? These aren't necessarily my opinions but I feel they do have some weight to them.
People here have been aware of MS unethical business practices for a long time and they arent business partners BRK but somehow dlt didnt know at all? To me that's a little suspicious
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When I researched BRK when I was considering purchasing one, I came across accusations of MS. I made the personal decision not to purchase one even though I couldn’t find proof of the accusations.

However, if I was a dealer and heard of the accusations, I would go directly to the source. And if I still wasn’t satisfied with the answer, I might just start supplying my own steel to the company, especially if they were great sellers.
 
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