Just saw this.....Bark River is no more?

Rupestris said:
The Ford employees didn’t know the car was a death trap.

BRKT employees might have known that what they were doing was unethical. What I doubt they knew was, there are federal laws that will protect an employee that blows the whistle.
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I agree, possibly unethical, but I dont think the employees had any duties directly to any of those who are aggrieved. Mike and the LLC did however. Also, we aren't talking loss of life here, maybe loss of reputation and of course expected revenue. Also depends what was in actual contract form and what was not.
 
Blues said:
You guys who are pretending to know the law should really quit while you're ahead. What you think might be "right" is not the same thing.

And @DMG let me see if I can give a simple example of why I said what I did about why you wouldn't be picked for a jury if the truth about your opinion was known.

Let's say you were in a jury pool for a mob trial. You're from the Pittsburgh area, and I've had mob investigations that involved that area.

So, imagine that the defendant to be tried was of Italian descent and didn't have blue hair. But for the sake of argument, you didn't care for people of Italian heritage...for whatever reason, it doesn't matter.

It might not come out if you were asked during voir dire whether you had any prejudice against those of Italian descent,..if you were not honest in your reply. But if you were truthful, you would be dismissed...either by the judge, defense or prosecution.

And that's why I said you wouldn't be picked. It's not because a woman with blue hair made a post on the web. It's because of what you said your impression is of blue haired libs.

And that's all I have to say about that.
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Brother, you have exceedingly good reasoning for a UH60 guy, and I know this from working in an office of UH60 guys with the bad necks/backs/hearing to prove it!
 
Watched Jason/DLT on FB and he seemed pretty credible. I almost feel good about my one BRK in cruwear I picked up from DLT years ago.

The drama appears to focus around Mike. I think I like pics of knives more than drama from that guy, so I'm heading back that way. :cool:
 
KSF & DLT were primary dealers, but also wholesalers. There’s likely hundreds of small “dealers” who buy 20-50+ knives a year at discount to sell at knife shows.

By the way, if anyone is looking to Jim Stewart for morals, look somewhere else. This is the guy who, while married: hit on underaged girls, slept with distributors daughter, numerous inter company affairs, and had a baby with other women, twice, while married (one ending in an out of state, paid for abortion and the other in the dissolution of his married).

These are not good people.
 
ShaiHulud said:
Even if there's no way to authenticate or corroborate her statements, knowing all what he's done already so far doesn't make it hard to believe
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Even if a small portion of what she says is correct, I would have resigned knowing the kind of things going on were unethical. I think the word I was thinking of is inculpatory, meaning she saw things that would prove he is guilty of unethical practices. I like the FTC regulations that were listed in another post.
 
JasonInVa said:
Brother, you have exceedingly good reasoning for a UH60 guy, and I know this from working in an office of UH60 guys with the bad necks/backs/hearing to prove it!
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I was only TDY as a UH60 crew member for a couple of months at Homestead AFB where our agency's air wing was located. The rest of the time I was a special agent doing criminal investigations on the ground.
 
somber said:
By the way, if anyone is looking to Jim Stewart for morals, look somewhere else. This is the guy who, while married: hit on underaged girls, slept with distributors daughter, numerous inter company affairs, and had a baby with other women, twice, while married (one ending in an out of state, paid for abortion and the other in the dissolution of his married).

These are not good people.
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Im not saying I doubt you, but can I ask how you came to know all this?
 
somber said:
KSF & DLT were primary dealers, but also wholesalers. There’s likely hundreds of small “dealers” who buy 20-50+ knives a year at discount to sell at knife shows.

By the way, if anyone is looking to Jim Stewart for morals, look somewhere else. This is the guy who, while married: hit on underaged girls, slept with distributors daughter, numerous inter company affairs, and had a baby with other women, twice, while married (one ending in an out of state, paid for abortion and the other in the dissolution of his married).

These are not good people.
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We just upgraded from mud slinging to clearing the pipes! 😁

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somber said:
I lived in Escanaba for a decade.

I worked for KSF under Derrick.

I worked for DLT under Jason.

My wife was under age when she was propositioned by Jim.

The rest regarding his infidelity is known locally.

I met you at OKCA in 2012 when I worked for Murray Carter.
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Damn. I lived by mackinaw city in Northern Michigan just below the bridge for 8 years, we didn't get the juicy details lol
 
Not an attorney. Stating the obvious sorry long read.

Simplest claim is probably through the Michigan’s Consumer Protection Act (MCL 445.901 et seq.) - prohibits businesses from engaging in unfair, deceptive, or misleading practices, including falsifying product characteristics, origin, or quality.

Private Actions: Consumers can file lawsuits for damages or injunctive relief.

Business Damages: Businesses that are victims of fraud may recover up to 10 times the retail price of the property in civil actions.

Examples of Illegal Falsification in Michigan
Representing that goods have ingredients, uses, benefits, or quantities they do not possess; Advertising or promoting goods with the intent not to sell them as advertised: Failing to reveal a material fact.

So - for you the private consumer- You’d file suit in MI via a local lawyer and your damages individually would be the price of the knife, presumably? Class action? Not sure how that’d work and what actual damages each claim would be beyond the cost of the knife? Who would hire a lawyer at $350/hr?! It’d have to be a class action I presume. So what’s that lawyer going to make from how many customers knives loss figure and or if the defendant must pay plaintiffs attorneys costs? Where’s the $$ going to come from? I imagine most attorneys would pass taking in a case.

So, for the business consumer (dealer) - uh, I assume they’re going to work something out with BRK attorney. What is a dealer going to recover $$ (and up to 10x retail price)??! Where’s the money coming from?

Not seeing a federal case.

So, the alternate is if the state investigates. I’m assuming that’s predicated on customer complaints but moreso from dealer complaints, and the loss figure. If the state brought an action, whatever those criminal statutes are, I’d figure they’d indict the company and the management individually. They’d subpoena business/management records and emails from the service provider, records from suppliers and dealers and seek orders for depositions of employees and other aforementioned folk that supplied/ distributed for the business. Enforcement could get warrants and may seize his and management’s phones. But you can count on they’ll subpoena phone email and chat records once predication is established from several incriminating emails. No deleting those.

About exculpatory and incriminating remarks, there are ramifications from public admissions. Mucho POPCORN there. Guessing whether or not the business or management properly consulted an attorney. I’d assume (right. ??) any company owner remarks have been stress-tested by a lawyer.

It will remain interesting to observe the public damage control to mitigate legal issues with dealer inventory (and very much less-so the consumer-held property) - we'll likely not hear about any behind door private stuff happening. I would assume the dealers have engaged their counsel to start talking to BRK or whoever its counsel is to fact-find and work something out. Does anyone know the arrangement between BRK and dealers meaning what’s owed etc? Everything I presume is dealer owned inventory? Was $ loaned to BRK? If the dealers lose their expected markup/retail but sell at cost dumping them elsewhere or individually over years, is there a loss and would the file suit? Where would they get $$$$ damages from?

Side note - I’m more interested by the aspect of dealer inventory and what those financial arrangements were, and contingencies to quantity quality and timeframe of supplying completed knives. And what the pricing to all of that is. And what the contracts looked like to cover it and contingencies, and for the interesting twist that a dealer was funding and acquiring stock (steel) on behalf of the company. Fascinating. And fascinated about closing a business yet reopening a much-the-same business on the heels of the debacle. The claim of the new business “honoring warranties” (whatever that means in practical terms - remake the same knife for each customer that complains and ships the knife back, using the proper steel?!!), may be strategic to avoid liabilities from consumers and put in the best face for future liability from civil/criminal. I’m assuming most of what we hear herefoward is going to be News from the New Company!!!
 
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I was sentenced to Homestead ARB for 3 years. Towards the end of my...time, Miami Dade was attempting to make it more civilized. Not sure it helped
 
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