Kershaw whiplash? any thoughts?

A_Blade_Afficionado said:
If you want to split hairs...
The Whiplash was designed to solve a lanyard problem.
The Civilian was designed to dismember and injure. It was designed to give somebody the upper hand in combat.
Is "Military Styling" or "Dismemberment" more Dark Ops? I would think that a weapon designed to be used to harm other humans is more Mall Ninja/ Dark Ops than a fixed blade being used as a utility blade.
But you are blind to the truth and won't ever admit defeat because you've been so radical on this topic that you won't reason with us.
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Won't reason with people who think expressing a negative opinion is "disrespectful" ? Who's being unreasonable here?

What lanyard problem? I've never had a problem retaining a grip on my fixed blades. Seems like a odd solution in search of a problem, a knife designed around one feature sacrificing everything else, including the visual appearance of strength.

Military Styling is the definition of Dark Ops. There's no denying what the Civilian was designed for, but everything (name, construction, price point, marketing, even the number produced) is geared towards keeping it in the hands of those it was designed for.

Step up and tell me that the Whiplash wasn't designed for the 13 year old boy with an overload of hormones fresh from playing the latest military first person shooter.
 
Josh, not to get personal here, but since you bring it up, IMHO, you have been over the top with regards to your comments within this thread. I've always been one to be vocal, but would never post anything I wouldn't say to whomever I was addressing face to face. I guarantee, you wouldn't speak to me, the Hawks, or Sal the way you post in this thread. You might think about that going forward.

Look, this is a public forum, and you can say what you feel, but I hold long time members here to a bit of a higher standard. You, of course don't owe me or us as a company any more or less respect than the next guy or manufacturer, but if you really have a desire for our community in general, and genuinely care for the betterment of the industry, I don't think posts should read the way I'm seeing. Opinions are one thing, but... JMO.
 
Josh K said:
Won't reason with people who think expressing a negative opinion is "disrespectful" ? Who's being unreasonable here?
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That would be me now.

I guess the night is getting the better of me. I have always tried to gear my posting to facilitate straight to a face to face conversation, but I seem to have lost sight of that.

I'm going to leave this with what I should have left initially, "It's not my style, but I wish you the best."
 
If the Civilian was designed to be LEO only they could have made it... You guessed it... LEO only. They can restrict who they sell to.

Why are you so determined it's for Mall Ninjas? Are you going to call Striders Mall Ninja because try have OD green which is a military color?

If Military styling is Mall Ninja, why do you endorse a knife by the name of Military that is available in digicamo. Is that Mall Ninja?

According to your criteria, your favorite knife is the most Mall Ninja/ Dark Ops I've ever heard if. (In reality it isn't but your definition classifies it as one.)
 
hmm, well that sucks for people in states where it's legal to have an auto. Why aren't they selling the Rogue to military?
 
hardheart said:
hmm, well that sucks for people in states where it's legal to have an auto. Why aren't they selling the Rogue to military?
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They might be. I remember Thomas only mentioning LEO/EMT awhile back but I might be wrong, but I am pretty confident it's unavailable for civilians as long as the dealers follow the law. For people that live in auto legal states, it's not the auto that's illegal, it's shipping the auto the to state that's illegal. Shipping over state borders is what makes selling autos online illegal.
 
I mean buying from local shops, they can receive interstate shipments of autos if they are allowed to sell them. I just checked the old thread again, think I prefer the breakout anyway :)
 
Josh K said:
There's no denying what the Civilian was designed for, but everything (name, construction, price point, marketing, even the number produced) is geared towards keeping it in the hands of those it was designed for.
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Um, first its priced so cops with their huge salaries can buy one...

...then its limited in quantity so the public, theoretically, has the ability to buy one, albeit rarer, at a huge MSRP (even though they are everywhere)...

...and now it is geared for the people who it was named after, the Civilian.

Awesome. Pure awesome.
 
You guys are too much!:D To the person who decided to make this a Kershaw vs. Spyderco thing, and you know darn well who you are, why don't you just cut it out? I mean, if you want to get down to the nuts and bolts of it, Spyderco doesn't have followers calling themselves a "Mafia," so let's leave well enough alone, shall we?;) Both companies produce fantastic designs and have loyal followings!:thumbup:

This thread is about a new KERSHAW knife, which, at present, has yet to be handled and reviewed by the membership. There have been numerous opinions given based on a visual rendering. Does it look like it has a 'weak spot?' I think so, but then I also thought that the Perrin Bowie and Street Beat looked like they had a similar 'weak spot,' and from having used them both fairly hard, I'm no longer concerned about it. I suspect the same will be true for the Kershaw, and with the number of people who will be doing 'T&E' work with it, I'm sure we'll find out for sure very shortly.

Regards,
3G
 
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ColonelX said:
let this thread Die
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Curious way to "let a thread Die," by making a post in it. :D However, because YOU, ColonelX, being the important individual you appear to be in your own mind, said so, I'll take it under serious advisement.:rolleyes:
 
3Guardsmen said:
I mean, if you want to get down to the nuts and bolts of it, Spyderco doesn't have followers calling themselves a "Mafia,

Regards,
3G
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We have a "name" because we're an organized "family". The others, not so much.
Thanks for being the internet police.

mike
 
3Guardsmen said:
You guys are too much!:D To the person who decided to make this a Kershaw vs. Spyderco thing, and you know darn well who you are, why don't you just cut it out? I mean, if you want to get down to the nuts and bolts of it, Spyderco doesn't have followers calling themselves a "Mafia," so let's leave well enough alone, shall we?;)
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Don't make this a Kershaw vs. Spdyerco thing...hmmm...but you'll certainly stir the pot.
 
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My 2 cents:
I respect the Hawk brothers. They actually have a hard use (harder i'm sure than other folders targeted at military/tactical) folder design in the ZT Mudd, they aren't some Johhny come latelies to knife design. Their ET is one of the most underrated knives (IMO) around. Who cares that nobody gets that the notches in this fixed blade are obviously intended to be a survival comb, nobody knows how it will perform until it is used. Plus, this is Kershaw! If you break that knife you can call and have it warrantied no questions asked!
 
Bashing the Mafia, when you have to resort to making fun of a family, you are grasping for leverage, proving your point is irrelevant.
As far as Kershaw vs Spyderco, a Spyderco fanboy tried to explain why round holes are superior, then the thread spiralled down from there.
Crom, that made sense, it's funny that it took 215 posts to mention their customer service. I'm sure they will take care of you.
 
Okay. So I literally just received the Whiplash that Thomas sent me. Since I haven't used it for anything yet I'll give my initial thoughts in handling it.

First off, I've never had a use for a lanyard, but if one does a need for one I guess this design is something to consider. The lanyard does not get in you way while handling ans is very easy to expose and hide the lanyard with the built in storage. The handle is also comfortable whether or not the lanyard is exposed. The scales could be a little more grippy for my taste, but it won't slip out of your hand either. I find the channel in the scales where the lanyard fits actually makes for a more secure grip. It fits nicely in the hand and the finger choil is quite comfortable. Useful blade shape and profile and the knife came quite sharp out of the box. The jimping below the thumb notches is much more comfortable. The only problem is that the way I naturally hold the knife means my thumb makes constant contact with the notches. So far they don't seem too bothersome, but with constant and hard use I could imagine having one sore thumb at the end of the day. So far all grips have been comfortable in the hand. The coating isn't exactly DLC and seems like it will chip off with use, but I can't say for sure. If this is a knife I fell in love with and wanted to carry alot, I would go in for a custom sheath. I know it's crazy to have a custom sheath made for a $35 knife, but I'm just saying. The sheath that the Whiplash comes with is not bad, but it's just generic and hangs off the belt at more of an angle than straight up and down. I would have like to see a tie down point on the tip of the sheath. Well that's it so far just on initial handling. More will follow upon actual use of the knife.
 
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