Kershaw whiplash? any thoughts?

hunter s thompson said:
I don't think I am going too far out on a limb here by saying that the companies that are doing the testing are probably using some type of equipment to measure the stresses being put on the knife being tested. This would give an ideal of the stresses being put on the knife before it breaks, and I would also guess that all the knives they test are subjected to the same stresses. The biggest knock on the noss and the nosstolites, most people (including myself) is that the stresses he places on the knives he "tests" varies from knife to knife, sometimes they vary during the same test (for example hitting the knife with a sledge hammer, every blow is a different amount of force simply because noss is a human). I am willing to bet $1,000 that any knife anyone on here wants to send me I can break. If anyone here doubts that please take me up on this offer I will make a video and post it here of exactly how easy it was to break. :D
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I'd take you up on that.

But you'd have to define the point of failure. Blade chipping? Snapped handle? Scales broken?
 
hardheart said:
none of those products being the Whiplash, the supporters have just as much knowledge of this knife as the detractors do - nil.

as I said, some people are going to be surprised. I invite anyone with slab handled fixed blade where the scales can be removed easily to do so and tell us how much steel is left in the full tang after the lightening and balancing was done. it seems a good a place as any to actually start thinking about the tangs of our knives and not just judging them by looks and/or name.
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I am referring to their QC standards as a company, not one particular product. Sales by branding/name rely heavily on their quality record to insure more sales. On the second point I totally agree with you. Many hidden tang knives have less steel than the Whiplash and have been made that way for decades.
 
SOLEIL said:
I am referring to their QC standards as a company, not one particular product.
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Well, as I stated earlier, QC isn't my concern here, just the new design. I'm sure it is built to spec, just want to know how the spec performs. This is a big notch that people can see, so some will see weakness, and in a more practical sense, there isn't scale material there to increase overall integrity.
 
hardheart said:
define knife, and we can see what can be worked out :D
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Knife –noun 1. an instrument for cutting, consisting essentially of a thin, sharp-edged, metal blade fitted with a handle. 2. a knifelike weapon; dagger or short sword.

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Josh K said:
I'd take you up on that.

But you'd have to define the point of failure. Blade chipping? Snapped handle? Scales broken?
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You call it. doesn't matter it'll break.
 
well, define 'thin' :D there's already a 1/2" custom tanto, and similar sized HI khuks pictured on the forum
 
ok, 1/2" or less thickness, cutting edge, and a handle. I'll try to think of something.

oh, sharp-what kind of cutting task will it need to accomplish to satisfy that
 
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hunter s thompson said:
Knife –noun 1. an instrument for cutting, consisting essentially of a thin, sharp-edged, metal blade fitted with a handle. 2. a knifelike weapon; dagger or short sword.

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You call it. doesn't matter it'll break.
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I have a 30 ton shop press, yeah you can break it. Better yet, stick it in a vise and put a 10' cheater bar on the end. :)
 
I don't think there's any disagreement that it can be broken. The question is, would it break during what would be labeled as "reasonable use". I dont believe this knife will fail any quicker in the hands of a normal human than the Street Beat you not only want to purchase, but also endorse.

BTW, I fully intend on buying one, hammering it into a tree, and hanging 220lbs of meat from it just for giggles. I can't think of anything more extreme that I could possibly use a knife for...
 
Hmmm... I'm interested the test results for this knife, I doubt strength would be an issue for me, but the ergonomics look horrendous. I don't know, the idea of compromising a knife as a cutting tool for the sake of hiding a lanyard irks me. All the same I really wanna know how people feel about this thing.
 
Josh K said:
I have a 30 ton shop press, yeah you can break it. Better yet, stick it in a vise and put a 10' cheater bar on the end. :)
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Exactly Josh and what would it prove? If you use something like a 10' cheater bar or even clamped it in a vise and flex "tested" it how would this prove how 1 knife is better than another? If you like a knife buy it. If you hate a knife don't bash it without any knowledge, get a hold of one do a decent review of it and get rid of it, that just makes you look like a troll, and we have plenty of those around here. Remember shiny footprints and all that.
 
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Wow talk about taking a thread off topic... If you don't have anything to say about the knife then don't, this isn't about Kershaw QC or other companies testing knives.

As for the knife, I won't be buying it. I don't care how strong it could be, it just doesn't appeal to me. No disrespect to the designers, but the knife doesn't appeal to me and does look weak where the tang thins out. Marketing at it's best, I don't like the knife and how it looks so I don't buy it, this doesn't mean the design is bad it just means I don't like it (along with a few others). To all the people defending the knife/design keep it up, still won't change the minds of customers. You can't make them buy it FFS. I find it funny that people are defending the knife just because it's produced under Kershaw (just like any other company), every company that I've looked at have knives that don't appeal to me and I don't care who makes it. Get over yourselves and keep your fan boy bias at the door.
 
I'm sorry aknife, but trolling to do nothing but call us fanboys and telling us to get over ourselves is a waste of time.
We have defended the Whiplash because people have falsly made assumptions that it is weak. We have defended Kershaw because many people have not only hated on the knife, but also disrespected Kershaw and the designers Grant and Gavin, which is uncalled for.
 
AKnife said:
You can't make them buy it FFS. I find it funny that people are defending the knife just because it's produced under Kershaw (just like any other company), every company that I've looked at have knives that don't appeal to me and I don't care who makes it. Get over yourselves and keep your fan boy bias at the door.
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If you read some of the remarks you'll see they are trollish, not an opinion.
Then there are the insults to the makers and/or about their designs. THAT is completely uncalled for.
There are plenty of knives I don't like either, but I don't go around hate bashing.

I find it funny that people keep coming in here and complaining about complaining.
Good job. :thumbup:


**edit** I see ABA sees the same thing I do.

mike
 
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A_Blade_Afficionado said:
I'm sorry aknife, but trolling to do nothing but call us fanboys and telling us to get over ourselves is a waste of time.
We have defended the Whiplash because people have falsly made assumptions that it is weak. We have defended Kershaw because many people have not only hated on the knife, but also disrespected Kershaw and the designers Grant and Gavin, which is uncalled for.
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Disrespected Kershaw and the designers? Get over it. :thumbdn: Some people happen to not like the knife, they think it's weak. It's an opinion, which is what the OP asked for.

2brothers said:
There are plenty of knives I don't like either, but I don't go around hate bashing.
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Who's "complaining about complaining" now? I'm not "hate bashing" the knife, I simply don't like it's design and doubt it's ability to perform as a "bold, military-style fixed-blade knife."
 
Josh, you're telling me to get over people disrespecting Kershaw.
Yet, if people sat and bashed Sal, who is a great guy, much like Thomas, mocking his products, disrespecting his company, and doing nothing but offending his products and designers, you would sit and type post after post defending your allegiance to Spyderco. You would fight to the bitter end.
Now you tell me, is it wrong for us to defend Kershaw?
 
Sorry if you see my post as trolling, but it wasn't intended as that. I've seen the other comments, and disagree with most of them. I don't like the design, others don't either but they are attacking Kershaw, I'm not. I own my fair share of Kershaw's and other brands, this design doesn't appeal to me so I won't be purchasing it, it has nothing to do with Kershaw as a company.

Honestly there's nothing to "defend" because none of you have the knife, you just respond to the trolling comments and are taking the thread off topic. "False assumptions"? Do you have the knife? No? Then you are making an assumption. It's a buyers market, all I have to go by when purchasing a knife online with no review is my assumption when viewing pictures. The design doesn't appeal to me, just because you disagree doesn't mean I'm making a false assumption. Keep fighting over the knife and telling everyone that disagrees with what you have to say that they're trolling.
 
A_Blade_Afficionado said:
Josh, you're telling me to get over people disrespecting Kershaw.
Yet, if people sat and bashed Sal, who is a great guy, much like Thomas, mocking his products, disrespecting his company, and doing nothing but offending his products and designers, you would sit and type post after post defending your allegiance to Spyderco. You would fight to the bitter end.
Now you tell me, is it wrong for us to defend Kershaw?
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When did I ever say it was wrong?

I'm expressing my opinion, and to tell you the truth, if Spyderco had released that knife, I would have been just as disappointed in it.

How have we done nothing but "offend his products" (you can offend products? :confused:) and "disrespect his company" (I'm pretty sure I said several times that they make great knives, this just doesn't happen to be one of them)?

Perhaps people don't "sit and bash" Sal because he doesn't make "bold, military-style fixed-blade" knives? :rolleyes:
 
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