Kevin John Knife

I did handle one of their fakes,& it was pretty well made,but it just seemed like it wasn't worth anything no matter how good it was,just because of the fact that it was a copy.
 
There is no Kevin John. This is a figment, a ghost. The Chinese have western marketing helpers with experience from Hong Kong and they have buyers also. These buyers order and actually buy at least one of every model they copy and then they mass produce them to staggering accuracy. Many people have written me only to discover they were taken because its not just this Losha they copy. They copy Hnderer, Strider, Reeve, Spyderco, Emerson, and Benchmade quite regularly as well as numerous other Boker and off brand names they happen to like or think can sell.

It can be very difficult to discern the real from the fake on some of these unfortunately and often the only real tell is the metric hardware. I am sure many people feel like they receive a bargain with these as they can indeed be nice but they are fooling a lot of people and costing them great $ losses when fooled by someone. Often the seller is fooled also and had no idea they were taken also. You really have to watch the auction sites for these scams.
 
Any idea where these are made, STR? I don't mean geographical location. I mean the kind of facility or facilities they're being produced in? It seems to me that as they're built to "staggering accuracy" (and I agree with your assessment, by the way), they must be produced in facilities that manufacture knives full-time. Where else would you find the equipment and the skill to copy some of the finest knives on the planet with such a high degree of accuracy? If I'm correct in my assumption, the question becomes whether a full-time manufacturing facility could make ends meet on the production of copies alone. If they can't, what other knives might these manufacturing facilities be producing and who might they be producing them for?
 
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I wanted to see for myself so I went to ali baba's whorehouse. Evidently there's also wild boar knives being produced by the same company. Staggeringly accurate copies based on the pictures and descriptions, down to caged bearings and everything. At least some posts were honest enough to list the blade steel as 8 or 9cr. Though even that's questionable.
 
But, but, the man's signature is right there on the scale !!!
Can you people not see that !












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bodog said:
I wanted to see for myself so I went to ali baba's whorehouse. Evidently there's also wild boar knives being produced by the same company. Staggeringly accurate copies based on the pictures and descriptions, down to caged bearings and everything. At least some posts were honest enough to list the blade steel as 8 or 9cr. Though even that's questionable.
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If you really want to know how well they're made, you need to inspect one for yourself. Until then, I'd suggest you take STR's word for it. "Staggering accuracy" says it all.
 
Agreed. it crossed my mind to order an 0560 copy and dissect it and post the results here but two things stopped me. If I shelled out the money willingly, then I willingly gave money to a company that obviously infringes on property rights, and two, I'm a little worried that I might find the copies are actually decent. I wouldn't want to have to report something like that.
 
That's the Catch-22 all right. Problem is, some people come on here and disparage the products without ever having seen one and those who have actually seen one agree that they're extremely well made. If you're not going to find out for yourself, which of them would you choose to believe?
 
Copy of a custom Strider :

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Counterfeiters are just as bad as the knobs who illegally download books.
They are thieves, plain and simple, and they all deserve to be kicked in the balls till they cannot procreate.

I will buy my knives from reputable dealers and people I know are honest, to avoid supporting those bottom-feeding scum.
 
I got roped into picking up a "custom Strider" that turned out to be a KJ. Some fine folks on here helped me deduce once and for all that it was indeed a fake. I do have to say though, it was an extremely well built and nice knife, it's easy to see why they're out there. And even when they're sold as fakes they go for a decent price, I sold it for exactly what it was and got my money back out. I was really surprised.
 
What a great looking knife!!! Scott has certainly perfected the Lochsa

Oh wait, it's a Counterfeit Lochsa made by the Counterfeiter Kevin Johns!!!

How dare he do it, again and again and again
 
Well the branded knife companies pumped them up got them going, churning out these cheaper knives all in the name a cheaper decent knife for the masses.....
 
bld522 said:
That's the Catch-22 all right. Problem is, some people come on here and disparage the products without ever having seen one and those who have actually seen one agree that they're extremely well made. If you're not going to find out for yourself, which of them would you choose to believe?
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My dad needed a knife sharpener as his hands are getting more arthritic, but being the man he is he refused anything but an old Arkansas stone he's used for years. I gave him my lansky that I'd been using for a decade. The stones were still good enough after that time for what he was used to. Well, since I needed a new sharpener and was a broke dick at the same time, I ordered the edge pro professional replica (ruixin pro) off of amazon. I made sure it was good to go. Edge pro's patent expired and no trademarked insignia was apparent on the sharpener. Well, lo and behold, I got it in the mail and found that it works very well. I've had it for probably six months. I ordered an assortment of congress stones to use. I've found that the chinese stones supplied with the sharpener work better, quite a bit better, than the congress stones. (For those who care, I have 80 and 120 ruby, mm up to 600, and the soft polishing stones up to 1200)

Now that I've learned the best way to use it, I can get mirrored edges that are incredibly sharp. Even the wicked edge rep at Blade said it was bettee than what they could do there. To be fair, they didn't have chosera stones or strop gear, but I feel it says something, regardless.

I don't feel terrible as the company doesn't seem to be infringing on any laws and legitimate imitations are everywhere and everyone uses them. With these knife companies though, they're putting another companies logos on their knives, selling the knives as something they're not, and most are obviously lying about how the knife is made and what it's made from. It may be a fine line, but it's still a line I'm unwilling to cross.
 
The name of the knife on E-bay is the "Kevin John LOCHSA"

No, not a counterfeit:rolleyes:

And it sells for $225
 
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