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Yeah, to set the initial edge but not to give the customer knife a new regrind as well as grinding on the tumbstud when it takes all of two seconds to remove...? Maybe I was not as clear as I should have been but I don't see anything wrong with using a belt sander as long as the job requires it and the operator is functioning at 100%. My knives where not that badly damaged to facilitate them being put to the belt and through prior conversation topics with the owner and his employee he should have gathered such.
Also this post was not to speculate on if belt sanders are good, bad or used at the factory, but actually only really concerned for those in the area who might happen by chance to take something of theirs to this place for a knife sharpening. I apologize, its just that I am a little bummed out that my recently acquired toys have been molested. My BM 551-1 now has a wavy regrind in it with uneven grinds and a half ground thumbstud and then my s110v PM2 now looks as if I did a blade swap with my Delica.
Oh and if you want to see what they look like I will be posting pictures soon. My phone broke and Im waiting on the replacement.
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^ Definitely looking forward to seeing these pictures, DK! I can't even begin to imagine the "WTFH" look you must've had on your face, when you first looked at the hatchet job these guys did on your knives ("incredulous" comes to mind).
I just can't fathom, how the guy whom sharpened your knife, could think that this is acceptable! :disillusionment:
Don't want to sound rude but most people don't consider spyderco a collector knife, regardless, if you pay for sharpening it should be done correctly.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with using a belt grinder for sharpening, I don't know any custom makers that don't sharpen that way. Some of the most expensive customs are sharpened using belt grinders. The problem is not knowing how to sharpen with the belt, not having variable speed and not having the technique. Belt grinders will destroy your edge in seconds if you you do not know what you are doing. A good maker will be able to free hand sharpen in minutes to a razor sharp edge. I just don't want anyone reading this think a belt grinder is the is problem because it is not, it's the sharpener.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with using a belt grinder for sharpening, I don't know any custom makers that don't sharpen that way. Some of the most expensive customs are sharpened using belt grinders. The problem is not knowing how to sharpen with the belt, not having variable speed and not having the technique. Belt grinders will destroy your edge in seconds if you you do not know what you are doing. A good maker will be able to free hand sharpen in minutes to a razor sharp edge. I just don't want anyone reading this think a belt grinder is the is problem because it is not, it's the sharpener.
Collecting is a relative term and that is the beauty of collecting, very similar to the term of "one man's trash is another man's treasure." Regardless of what deems one to be a collectible, prior to the sharpening we did talk about the forums, knife shows, and other Facebook groups the average joe probably would not have two sheets about. So one might conclude that I take pride in my things?
If you are wearing out blades it usually means you don't consider that knife a collectible. I use to have quite a collection before making knives and none of the collectable ones would need sharpening because they were meant to appreciate in value, not use. Either way, he should of sharpened them to an acceptable level, if you told him to or not.
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Speak for yourself. There are plenty of people that collect (or attempt to collect) all the variations of PM2s, and others. I'm not one of them, and I don't even fancy Spyderco all that much, but I can recognize that it still would be considered a collectible to most people.
Maybe I didn't make myself clear, I was speaking of high-end collectible knives. When he posted his story he insinuated that a spyderco was a high end collectible, which it is not. There is also a big difference in collecting segments, most high-end collectors don't hard use their knives, especially to the point of resharpening, which goes back to his premise that the sharpener should of known he was a collector and been very delicate with his knife.
High end collectible knives are $1k+, last time I checked Spyderco wasn't in that group.
The OP never suggested that they were (high end) collectible knives. He simply stated collectible, which they may be to him as they are with many people. A knife doesn't have to be 1K plus for it to be collectible, thousands of people collect Spyderco's.
Dont misunderstand my bluntness. I get your upset and your frustration and disappointment. Ive been there many times. Sure many here have as well. I was just confused on all the posts and your own on how bad belt sanders were etc. I get the bad job part, just wasnt following the hatred of belt sander useage. Thanks for clarifying and the follow up.
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Is there a book of knife collecting that states this? I don't want to hijack this thread any further, but please don't force your opinion onto others as if it were fact.
You seem to be very opinionated for some reason. I was a pretty big collector at one point and that is my opinion which is shared by most high end collectors. If your feelings got hurt because I said Spyderco's weren't high-end deal with it. You won't be around too long with your attitude, this is a forum for stating opinions, facts are hard to come by along with consensus.
Also, I was a very serious collector, not your run of the mill. I speak my opinion based on experience with collecting and trading in the high end market.
^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlBr2fyqn9g
I'm starting to worry, that your high end knife collection, has gone to your head, Mike. Not everyone here, is as "serious" a collector as you are. My measly Spyderco ATR, Millie CF M390, Superhawk CF & a few other's, are as meaningful to me, as your $$$$$ knives are to you.
FWIW: I've dealt with BF member BBKoenigsegg. He's a super nice, humble, down to earth guy...nothing arrogant about him...one look at the picture you posted...nevermind- you wouldn't get it anyway.
You should take a humility pill, when you come on here & attempt to interact with the run of the mill, mundane, middle/lower class peons here.
I'm starting to worry, that your high end knife collection, has gone to your head, Mike. Not everyone here, is as "serious" a collector as you are. My measly Spyderco ATR, Millie CF M390, Superhawk CF & a few other's, are as meaningful to me, as your $$$$$ knives are to you.
FWIW: I've dealt with BF member BBKoenigsegg. He's a super nice, humble, down to earth guy...nothing arrogant about him...one look at the picture you posted...nevermind- you wouldn't get it anyway.
You should take a humility pill, when you come on here & attempt to interact with the run of the mill, mundane, middle/lower class peons here.
As for you BBK- you might as well take a long hard look in the mirror, & listen to that sobering voice of reality barking back at you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7a9IF78I68
You seem to be very opinionated for some reason. I was a pretty big collector at one point and that is my opinion which is shared by most high end collectors. If your feelings got hurt because I said Spyderco's weren't high-end deal with it. You won't be around too long with your attitude, this is a forum for stating opinions, facts are hard to come by along with consensus.
Also, I was a very serious collector, not your run of the mill. I speak my opinion based on experience with collecting and trading in the high end market.
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Nice collection of of higher end knives. Just looking at this picture really makes me think that I am happy to collect run of the mill knives.
I am sure this forum was intended to bring people like us together because of our fondness of sharp things no matter who or what we are rather than pointing out our differences. If you feel the need to hijack this thread and then to take a picture of your toys that is fine, but by doing this you shared with your fellow forum members just what type of person you are. I am sorry that is just my opinion and I am entitled to that just as you are about your convoluted views on what knife collecting is and should be.
Also, my time on bladeforums has been great, however encountering individuals such as yourself has just reminded me why it is I stay away from this place and took up residence elsewhere where there is less anonymity and where trolling is promptly dealt with.
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You seem to be very opinionated for some reason. I was a pretty big collector at one point and that is my opinion which is shared by most high end collectors. If your feelings got hurt because I said Spyderco's weren't high-end deal with it. You won't be around too long with your attitude, this is a forum for stating opinions, facts are hard to come by along with consensus.
Also, I was a very serious collector, not your run of the mill. I speak my opinion based on experience with collecting and trading in the high end market.
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You are getting pretty delusional here, Mike. Take a step back and read exactly what I said, and gauge your responses accordingly. Whether I may or may not be an opinionated person really can't even be determined by this thread, because I didn't even share an opinion. I said that you should speak for yourself, because you're putting others down with the way you're presenting YOUR opinion. I also said there are plenty of people that collect Spyderco, and consider that to be their high end knife. That's a FACT, not opinion. Honestly though, I'm done here. You've shown your true colors, and they really aren't pretty. I liked your custom knives on IG. But now that I know what kind of person you are, I'll make sure to steer clear.
KELAMA, thanks for the support. I'm not exactly sure what set this guy off to start bragging about his collection, but it surely was not my intent.
I feel your pain. I learned the hard way with a custom and on a production serrated knife. Two different shops. One with a belt Sander and the other on a paper wheel. No matter what is used, it doesn't take much to do alot of damage. Now if something needs sharpening I do it or back to the maker.