Knife Hunter Frustration

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hotrodKelley said:
It's amazing. First off people, nobody gives a refund unless they have their item back. Why should knifehunter give a refund before he has his ruck back?
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I know,,,,, HE SHOULD NOT!!!!! He did not have to accept the return to begin with, let alone pay return shipping while eating all the fees.
 
dericdesmond said:
I know,,,,, HE SHOULD NOT!!!!! He did not have to accept the return to begin with, let alone pay return shipping while eating all the fees.
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Exactly. Some noob comes along and acts like he's been around here for years with 24 posts, oh yeah, I forgot Brown was there when he opened the package:rolleyes:

I say NO refund!! I say noob has buyers remorse.
 
Screw the noob? Wasn't as advertised, he's a noob so screw him?

Nice. Good luck. I hope everyone reads this. I personally wouldn't do business with anyone who so blatantly has unethical business practices.
 
I am not a NOOB and have mannnnnny deals with most of you that went flawless both parties very happy ONLY when there has been a problem have i opened a thread here. :D
 
banditti said:
Screw the noob? Wasn't as advertised, he's a noob so screw him?

Nice. Good luck. I hope everyone reads this. I personally wouldn't do business with anyone who so blatantly has unethical business practices.
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These are your words, not mine. Grow up. If you wanted a refund, who are you to be trusted in getting your money back BEFORE Trevor gets his ruck back?

Trust me, after seeing how you act, I don't and would never deal with someone like you. The feedback and all the hassle wouldn't be worth it.
 
hotrodKelley said:
Exactly. Some noob comes along and acts like he's been around here for years with 24 posts, oh yeah, I forgot Brown was there when he opened the package:rolleyes:

I say NO refund!! I say noob has buyers remorse.
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I also would recommend to ask more questions or request more pics when spending $900 on something used.

I cant count how many times I have bought from a seller that says "like new/carried once/only used to cut one piece of paper" (not saying this seller does) but in reality it has lint build-up and burs from cutting plastic.
 
banditti said:
BTW - take the 3rd party's name out of this will you. Don't drag him in unless he wants to voluntarily. You know he is well known and trusted HOG/forum member, that is all that is necessary to state isn't it?

Please edit his name out.

So take it to a vote unless it doesn't come out your way? Really? It is everyone's fault but yours, in all cases is that what you are really saying here? I have been professional and factual. You just seem to be throwing people under the bus. Not cool.
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Why take his name out? He is using his hench men to character assainate me

heres link to show Dave Brown and Rovers association we already know about yours.


If you do a search you will find that Dave Brown has given Rover and possibly even Banditti Busse Hacks for being slef proclaimed big buddies.

Search in Busse forum for Rover and find that him and Dave are best of friends and all over each others post.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=595231



You are right about me now being a knifemaker I am not. I'm not in the knife business either.

I am simply a Die Hard Collector. I dont have the operatiing expenses of a maker or a business and therefore can not substantiate a loss of $900 to someone that is unreasonable.


I have waited months for my bullets from Rover ....where are they?

but you, Banditti, go and threaten to post stuff in the forum after not hearig from me for 2 to 2 and 1/2 days:confused: which was over a weekend:confused:

Especially, after I immediately offerred a refund and you said no way.
Tell me what am I suppose to do?

I spend way to much time on this forum, but I am not suction cupped to the computer screen.


I come here for fun and this is not fun.

If you had paid attention to the post from Blade forums you would have noticed that my inbox was full Monday 2/23/09 when you sent the PM.


Here is the ruck prior to shipping. Its the bottom knife

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dericdesmond said:
I also would recommend to ask more questions or request more pics when spending $900 on something used.

I cant count how many times I have bought from a seller that says "like new/carried once/only used to cut one piece of paper" (not saying this seller does) but in reality it has lint build-up and burs from cutting plastic.
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I understand what you are saying. But it is possible that the buyer could have damaged the Ruck somehow, and is using the "damaged in shipping" as a way to get a refund, isn't it?
 
I did forget that the package was opened and there was "witnesses" who saw it. How convient. :rolleyes:



This is what I do. I get a package and I wait till my friends come over and open it so I have witnesses there. Please.
 
hotrodKelley said:
I understand what you are saying. But it is possible that the buyer could have damaged the Ruck somehow, and is using the "damaged in shipping" as a way to get a refund, isn't it?
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100% agree, so on the flip, it never hurts the seller to take kick arss close ups and insure the $900 item :) which I believe he did (insure).
 
Here is the deal, if it was damaged in shipping I would say so. He packed the thing to the nines. I addressed that in the original post. KH and I spoke about that possibility twice. I am sure he put insurance on a $900 knife. That would have been the easy route.

hotrod, we know you are knifehunter are buddies, we get your point, settle a little.
 
hotrodKelley said:
Oh yeah, congrats!! You've made 25 posts now.
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Aaron, please do not judge to quickly, we know each other have had deals before:D all went perfect:thumbup: knifehunter has done a simular deal with me as what is being described here. I have 1701 posts here and i am not a NOOB further more we all started here with no posts it wasnt that long ago my friend
 
Banditti, can you post or send me pics of the Ruck as you received it? Right out of the package, and the package if you can please?
 
Simple.

Just send the Blade back for the full knife/shipping refund, like anyone else would(if you want a refund that is). Use on_the_edge(he has offered, and very trusted around here) if you don't want to deal with KH.

He will then send you your money back.

End of story.




ps- KH, remind me to tell you my story sometime(from Blade 07)...and yeah Dave was right beside him.(it was not Rover beside Dave...I
m about to Pm Dave to find out who it was.
 
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Ken44 said:
Simple.

Just send the Blade back for the full knife/shipping refund, like anyone else would(if you want a refund that is). Use on_the_edge(he has offered, and very trusted around here) if you don't want to deal with KH.

He will then send you your money back.

End of story.




ps- KH, remind me to tell you my Rover story sometime(from Blade 07)...and yeah Dave was right beside him.
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Thanks for the vote of confidence. I was beginning to wonder if my thread was even getting read.

My offer to both parties still stands. :)
 
Ken44 said:
Simple.

Just send the Blade back for the full knife/shipping refund, like anyone else would(if you want a refund that is). Use on_the_edge(he has offered, and very trusted around here) if you don't want to deal with KH.

He will then send you your money back.

End of story.
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Agreed.

I'll throw my name in there as an intermediary as well. I've got stuff to send to KH anyhow so it wouldnt be any more trouble to add a knife in there.
 
banditti said:
Here is the deal, if it was damaged in shipping I would say so. He packed the thing to the nines. I addressed that in the original post. KH and I spoke about that possibility twice. I am sure he put insurance on a $900 knife. That would have been the easy route.

hotrod, we know you are knifehunter are buddies, we get your point, settle a little.
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Settle? If the Ruck was damaged in shipping, why didn't you ask for a refund right away, or make a claim with the shipper? If you wanted a refund why didn't you get off your ass and send the ruck back? Why did you demand your money back first?

No one in their right mind, (this includes any business in the world) would give a refund until they had the item in hand. But you come along and act as if this common practice doesn't apply to you.
I see its working out for you.
 
knife hunter said:
I have a big problem with it.


Dave Brown is the one who sent Banditti( what this stand for...Bandit??) to me in the first place and vouched for him. Saying he was a good guy.


After further research I am finding troubling occurrences with associates of Dave Brown.........


I did a trade with Rover, whom I come to find out is best friends with, you guessed it, Dave Brown.

Long and short of this deal was that Rover traded me a FN 5.7 X 28 which included a Holster from Dave Brown and was to include three -four boxes of 5.7 x 28mm ammo.

I sent him two Busses worth over $1000, I think a MO $150, and threw in a Rigid knife as a bonus. Rover never sent me the bullets which are easliy worth a $100-$200 total since there were various boxes of bullett types of 5.7 x28. I will have to check ffl transfer to insure date but this occurred before I was temporarily banned in December 2008.

I sent Rover Four request and reminders saying hey I guess youve been busy like me, but I still havent gottten the shells.

He first response was I saw you got banned. Like WTF!...I didnt die!
You still owe me the shells. Then I sent three more reminders never once calling him out or being ugly. Finally, sometime just prior to Dave sending his other buddy, Banditti, to my door step. I didnt go looking for them.

Dave knew what occurred with Rover, he then, set me up with Baditti.

He vouched for Banditti. He then tried to convince me to send Bandittis money back to him witouth me having the Ruck.


Then, when I mentioned Dave be the go between and that I would send the refund if the pics matched mine and Banditti again said no.

Thank goodness I spoke to another friend on the forums about this last night and was notified of Dave Browns association with both Rover and Banditti.

Also, I am downloading pics that Banditti sent me and I am going to post the pics of the Ruck before it was sent out so that folks can see for themsleves..
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Really ??? How the heck did this become about me ?

I am Sorry Art has not got your ammo to you, I have not seen him in over a month, but again what does that have to do with me ?

Well, I guess I have been thrown into this now.

Here is what happened as far as I am involved.

1. I found out Todd wanted a Ruck.

2. I told him about KH's knife.

3. I PMed KH & vouched for Todd because I have known Todd for about 3 months now & he has been to my house to hang out & although he is new to these forums he is definitely not new to high end knives, an all around good guy.

4. Everything is smooth.

5. Todd gets the Ruck, & he wants a sheath for it.
To all the peanut gallery he did not bring it over to unveil it he just brought it to see if I needed it for fitting. He was coming over any how to work on something else.

6. We open the inner package in my living room, just to be honest & as I told KH on the phone yesterday when I called him trying to do what I can to make this all happy (on my own dime, I have nothing at all to gain from this folks, but some think it necessary to slam me :rolleyes: ) what he brought was the rolled up newspaper & cardboard packaging with the ruck in it. As Todd has said there was a small 1/4" cut but nothing sticking out. He also described the packaging at home that there was nothing that could have happened.
Again he did not do some ceremonious unveiling just brought the inner packaging and knife to my house with him to see if I needed it to make the sheath. Upon opening it we could see it was used (by the scuffs on the coating) no problem he wanted to use it. After looking a bit closer you could see that the very tip was crushed, I recognise this because I have crushed the tip of my AK more than once, also we noticed a place about 1/2" from the very tip that was crushed about 1" long like it had chopped a rock or something, the unique thing about this edge damage is that it had oxidized over so it was like that for a while.

Now it was described as used but the edge was in great shape.

I would not say it was in great shape, to sharpen out the tip damage by hand even with a diamond hone would take hours, again I know because I have done it.

7. I suggested to Todd to contact KH & ask him to call so they could work it out, I said it should be OK as I met him briefly at Blade 08 & he seamed like a good guy.

8. Todd told me he talked to KH & he offered to refund the money but Todd said he did not want that because he really wanted the knife, so KH said to send the pics & he would make it right.

9. I sent the pics I took to Todd & sent them to KH

10. couple days go by & yesterday I get a call telling everything here.

11. I call KH after he asked me to call , because I sent him a PM stating what I have seen. I got a busy signal & PMed KH stating so. I called again yesterday afternoon, again after getting a PM from KH to call back.

Let me say this; Earlier in the day Todd said to not bother so as to not get drug out & get slammed on the forums, I really should have listened.

12. I did get KH on the phone & talked to him for awhile. I basically said the reason I was calling was to say what I saw & explain my part & hopefully help everyone come to a understanding. We left the conversation pleasantly, I thought.

13. Now here we are.

I do not see why I am being slung around here ?
 
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