Knife or Death

I felt bad for the guy who's knife broke on the bucket, his edge was already crazy dull, that wasn't really his fault he had a bad knife.

Me too, cause just like our dawg :) Jo, there was no quit in that dude ...

I'll have to go back and watch it On Demand, but first time thru live, I could have swore he said he was using a "custom Pakistan" blade ... and the rest was history...or History Channel, as it were.

The pieces that got handed back to him looked like it was rat tail tang. I think he got scammed by whoever sold him that blade cause after the first cut thru the tatami that edge was cooked...I was fully expecting the host to say "Your blade didn't make the cut...sorry but you can't compete."

... so much fun to see Jo & the BC on on the LS <Little Screen>!!!
 
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Yep, Jason's runs were impressive. Nice combination of a well forged blade + skilled, physically capable user.

The one thing that surprised me the most about Episode 2, was stage 2, when Jason cut the meat before turning to the ice block. All this time, that was an option that everyone else didn't even consider choosing? Wow.

I'd assumed from Episode 1, that the competitors had to chop the ice block first, to see how the edge would be affected before cutting the 2nd set of hanging meat, but apparently, that consideration never occurred to the 3 other guys (and it obviously affected Rodrigo with his kopis).
 
Oops! I stayed up and watched my friend and 2 time Women's World Champion, Nicole Warden get it done! It was a really good episode! Pro knife thrower, Jason Johnson kicked butt!

Jo, when I saw the cast I recognized your friend and the current champ from a picture or two which you had posted in the recent past, but I could not recollected her name till she introduced herself. I had been wondering as to why Nicole adorns herself in some pink items of clothing or why her lanyard was in pink (even in those past photos) which I had just assumed was just some "girlie" flavor!!! It was very great to hear that she's a breast cancer survivor and a true competitor in the game of Life. Kudos top your friend, although YOU are still our emotional Champ and the future Bladesport ladies champ :)

Now onto the episode: WTF with the butcher and that butcher's knife?!!! :confused: :rolleyes: :eek: :poop: ... Also, flimsy swords are STUPID, extremely stupid for that kinda course. Now, where's Ivan with his CPK-Sword??? I wanna see a REAL sword made by Nathan Carothers :D

P.S. the runner up kid with the lime green Tee did much better than I had anticipated merely being very judgy by his initial physical appearances. Those bigger parangs do have some advantages for such a course, IMO.
 
Jo, when I saw the cast I recognized your friend and the current champ from a picture or two which you had posted in the recent past, but I could not recollected her name till she introduced herself. I had been wondering as to why Nicole adorns herself in some pink items of clothing or why her lanyard was in pink (even in those past photos) which I had just assumed was just some "girlie" flavor!!! It was very great to hear that she's a breast cancer survivor and a true competitor in the game of Life. Kudos top your friend, although YOU are still our emotional Champ and the future Bladesport ladies champ :)

Now onto the episode: WTF with the butcher and that butcher's knife?!!! :confused: :rolleyes: :eek: :poop: ... Also, flimsy swords are STUPID, extremely stupid for that kinda course. Now, where's Ivan with his CPK-Sword??? I wanna see a REAL sword made by Nathan Carothers :D

P.S. the runner up kid with the lime green Tee did much better than I had anticipated merely being very judgy by his initial physical appearances. Those bigger parangs do have some advantages for such a course, IMO.
Yep, hearing Nicole's back story was great. Testament to perseverance and grit.

As for the choices of some of the competitors, it's nice that some folks are kind enough to volunteer to be the comic relief in each episode.:confused::p

Invited to a blade competition where you'll be cutting and chopping all kinds of things, so you bring your meat prep knife? He definitely got further than I expected with that little knife though.

As for the sword choices thus far... I get that they want to include some martial artists (or martial arts enthusiasts anyway), but these guys aren't terribly smart in their sword picks for... once again,... a competition that involves chopping all manner of objects.

I've trained in various martial arts since childhood, including Japanese sword arts (as well as Chinese and Filipino), and I would NEVER bring a katana to a chopping competition, unless they told me the ONLY objects I'd be chopping were meat and/or tatami.

Then again, I wouldn't have brought ANY blade I hadn't at the very least, tested by seeing how many times it could chop through a 2x4, without any durability or edge holding issues. I wouldn't bring it, if it couldn't even handle that well at least 10x, but that's me.

If I were to ever consider bringing some kind of commercially available sword to something like this, Cold Steel's Chinese War Sword might be near the top of the list (unless I could beg or borrow a Super Assassin waki :D).

Mr. "I've probably got more experience with edged weapons than anyone here" with the bowie, is another example of a 'martial arts enthusiast'. When they did the blade preview and mentioned how thick the blade was behind the edge AND that it wasn't very sharp, that was this episode's rolleyes for me. Claim to be an edged weapon expert and bring a blade that's not even very sharp?

The runner up in the lime green T-shirt that you mentioned is a good example of how big a difference, the tool can make. No experience in chopping competitions, not the best physical condition, but the falcata did pretty well on most things with its length and chopping power. I did wonder at yet another guy bringing an untested tool ("I just finished this a couple of days ago"), but it held up pretty well.

The barong design didn't do too badly either, although the edge holding wasn't as good as some of the other tools.

Whoever made Jason's kukri did a good job though. It not only held up well, it also held its edge better than anything else in that episode, and his ability to use it was quite obvious.

I'm not sure how far the folks with their competition choppers can get on this competition. It takes quite a bit of skill and physical ability to compensate for the disadvantages of that 10" blade length.
 
One thing you really have to understand though, is they gave us NO idea what we would be facing. They said a Chopper would have some advantages, but also a dagger or sword, and they promised no destructive testing. I would like to think that people who have watched FiF would have expected this sort of thing (that is what I based my choice on), but Nicole acted surprised when I kept naming foods as potential targets. She was just sure I was reading my grocery list. LOL Anyway, they pretended anything over 10 in would work and some people, there was one guy on my show, got the call about a week before he had to be on a plane. That didn't give some people a lot of time to prepare. (and we were partially mislead a bit)
 
Jo, I had meant to ask you if you'd like to share with us as to how you were intro'd and casted for the show and what do you think the general criteria is/was for their casting? Was there like an overflow of applicants from the FiF series pouring into this new project? Were they also scouting Bladesport cross-overs? Just being curious :)
 
Jo, I had meant to ask you if you'd like to share with us as to how you were intro'd and casted for the show and what do you think the general criteria is/was for their casting? Was there like an overflow of applicants from the FiF series pouring into this new project? Were they also scouting Bladesport cross-overs? Just being curious :)
I think they had hoped that everyone on the show would be forgers. They repeatedly asked if the contestants would be able to bring forged knives. They settled for custom knives. Nicole sent me the advertisement through Facebook. That's how I found out about it. I think the pool was probably pretty small this first time. But I expect next season will be better. A lot of people are talking about it and how they would have done on the show. So we'll see. They have to understand that a smith is taking a significant risk beimg on there. I imagine it could possibly end a career. I think having some cutting experience and being female were the things that got me casted. :) and my bubbly personality of course. ;)
 
I think they had hoped that everyone on the show would be forgers. They repeatedly asked if the contestants would be able to bring forged knives. They settled for custom knives. Nicole sent me the advertisement through Facebook. That's how I found out about it. I think the pool was probably pretty small this first time. But I expect next season will be better. A lot of people are talking about it and how they would have done on the show. So we'll see. They have to understand that a smith is taking a significant risk beimg on there. I imagine it could possibly end a career. I think having some cutting experience and being female were the things that got me casted. :) and my bubbly personality of course. ;)

Totally concur with the risks associated with being an aspiring new smith and then going on that show, if the product flops due to catastrophic self-induced and not thought-through failure!

Anyway, also agreed on your super bubbly personality. So bubble away Mrs. Jo :)
 
I think one of the Busse or Bussekin knives whose geometry is geared towards cutting performance would do well there. Having a sharp knife is a huge advantage and some of those targets are filled with small rock and coarse sand which is dulling all of the knives to various degrees. I saw sparks from one of the cuts last night. Makers like Jerry and myself who have done our homework and make knives that hold an edge well in rough use would be well represented on a show like that. I'm hoping this show is an eye-opener for the wider viewing population.
 
I think one of the Busse or Bussekin knives whose geometry is geared towards cutting performance would do well there. Having a sharp knife is a huge advantage and some of those targets are filled with small rock and coarse sand which is dulling all of the knives to various degrees. I saw sparks from one of the cuts last night. Makers like Jerry and myself who have done our homework and make knives that hold an edge well in rough use would be well represented on a show like that. I'm hoping this show is an eye-opener for the wider viewing population.

Agreed Nathan! I can’t help but think that of all the Busse out there, @zmbhntr ’s REK-optimized Busse BB13 would be just about perfect! His pics:







That’s a 13” INFI beast! :cool:

Curious how that would stack up compared to your BC.

Edit - just to be perfect clear, absolutely no disrespect for Jo or the BC intended here. I’m just more familiar with Busse at this point.
 
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I enjoy the show, the winner last night Jason is from my home state.
I would like to see a episode with only production knives., might be fun.
 
I had a infi bb13 and a medium chopper and I'll take the caraothers every day. First most busses are dull lol. I have yet to receive one that was actually sharp. Probably 30 blades from them. But more than that is the ergos and D3V steel.

ReK probably did an amazing job on that bb13 and it's a good looking blade. How busse should have made it to begin with imo. My scrapyard b13 felt much better than my infi b13. And my basic 11 also felt much better.

But honestly Carothers knives are a step up over most I have handled. His attention to detail shows immediately when you hold one.
 
RE: Busse and Carothers.

I would think that a large Swamp Rat in SR-101 (52100) would do pretty well if it was properly sharpened.

I watched it last night and IMHO, most of the knives are not appropriate for that kind of competition. A butcher knife? Really?

I assume that the competitors watched the first show. If they did, I have to wonder what they were thinking...if they were thinking at all.
 
RE: Busse and Carothers.

I would think that a large Swamp Rat in SR-101 (52100) would do pretty well if it was properly sharpened.

I watched it last night and IMHO, most of the knives are not appropriate for that kind of competition. A butcher knife? Really?

I assume that the competitors watched the first show. If they did, I have to wonder what they were thinking...if they were thinking at all.

That's my mention of the Scrapyard 1311 previously. 13.5" of SR-101 (mod 52100 ;)). A cutting animal!!! Like a machete on steroids, and a LOT tougher with way better edge holding! I use mine a lot when camping. It quarters trees nicely... ;) :D

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That's my mention of the Scrapyard 1311 previously. 13.5" of SR-101 (mod 52100 ;)). A cutting animal!!! Like a machete on steroids, and a LOT tougher with way better edge holding! I use mine a lot when camping. It quarters trees nicely... ;) :D

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I have not kept up with the Scrapyard knives. I thought they were mostly made of SR-77 which, I understand, is Busse's version of S7. I guess I'll have to do some reading and catch up.
 
I had a infi bb13 and a medium chopper and I'll take the Carothers every day. First most busses are dull lol. I have yet to receive one that was actually sharp. Probably 30 blades from them. But more than that is the ergos and D3V steel.

But honestly Carothers knives are a step up over most I have handled. His attention to detail shows immediately when you hold one.
That, right there is EXACTLY why I've become a CPK fan in such a short time.

I'm a huge fan of performance oriented design and execution.

CPK, Busse and Dan Keffeler have all done quite a bit of testing on steels, and heat treats to maximize the performance in those steels.

Nate and Dan have also done quite a bit of testing on handle ergos, as well as blade geometry. Busse handles are a bit of a rollercoaster. Some feel pretty good, others not so much.

I currently have CPK's EDC2, FK and LC. 3 differently sized blades, with different usage biases, yet all 3 knives, from big to small, have very comfortable handles and great overall ergos.

I don't doubt that Dan's blades have incredible performance (not just in his experienced hands, but also in videos made by various buyers), but his blades, if I'm roughly in the ballpark, are 3x to 4x the price of CPK offerings. Eg. the CPK BC, seems to fall in between the Keffeler Silverback and Sasquatch but those cost at least 3x as much.

There simply aren't any other options around, with all these performance oriented traits, at these pricepoints, like CPKs
 
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