Knives you would never buy again!

Purchased this last year 2012 sometime in Aug. or Sept. for $109.00 New.
On back-order, finally received it 3 months later Nov. 2012.
Upon opening the box and seeing one bevel being 1mm wide and the other being 2mm's wide, plus noticing a very small chip
up near the tip, completely disillusioned with the quality and "hype" I put it back in the box and never took it out again until four weeks ago when I sent it back to Spyderco and enclosed a 5 dollar bill to cover return postage.

Received back last week, they obviously re-profiled the edge, removing the chip and attempted to bring both bevels closer to each other visually.
And they returned my 5 dollar bill in the box.

I'd never buy another one.
And I dislike a compression lock even more than before.
Honestly, I find my recently purchased $27.00 Taiwanese Rat 2 a better EDC and to me a better value.

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Before sending back to Spyderco:

2mm bevel (at it widest point):
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1mm bevel:
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Not a specific knife or even a brand but I will never buy another zytel handled knife. I've felt that way for years now and it extended to FRN as well but after finally giving in and trying out spyderco's with FRN I changed my mind about it.

I've had zytel break and splinter, I've accidentally set in on hot stuff and melted it makig sharp points I grab the next time I use it, I've just been overall dissapointed with knives using it as a handle material.


Bob6794 said:
I refuse to buy another CRKT m16-10z or any in that line after seeing mine and my brothers knife (his being a different model) both having a lockup problem. If you flick the knife open anything past gently opening it it would get stuck in the open position and require something to pry the liner lock free to close. Both knives developed this problem after purchasing. This issue has made me not trust CRKT knives or else I probably would have bought a CRKT Drifter already as it's extremely close to my ideal knife I want.
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Dude I had the EXACT problem with the exact knife, I had both my original M16-10KZ and the factory replacement go bad that way, on the first one the auto-lawks went bad at the same time. I too liked the drifter after needing a replacement for the replacement M16, it is a much nicer knife, I carried mine for a year and never had a problem. If you don't want to pay the $30 for the CRKT all it is is a rebadged Sanrenmu 707 (and those have several more options than the 4 CRKT models)

So I guess there is a whole family of knives I'll never own again- CRKT M16/M14 series.
 
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I love most any knife that can handle day to day tasks for extended amounts of time without a catastrofic failure but I've learned over the last 25yrs of knife buying to aviod the following-

Anything made by Frost cutlery, S&W, China Marbles, most things United cutlery, most meyerco knives, Hibben fantasy crap, Pakistany cheapo's, anything on the home shopping network and cheaper Bokers.

Knives you cannot go wrong with-

Any USA Buck, any Ontario knife, any Becker, Old Timer slip joints even the chinese made by taylor are good users, USA or Japanese Kabars, 90% of Cold Steel knives and the good ol Mora. I use and respect many others but these have proven to be great trouble free blades with the service and gaurantees that make me confident using the piss outta them.
 
BladeChick777 said:
I though I would never own a SOG again.
Well I now have the pleasure of owning one of their Seki Japan made knives in VG-10.
Solid lock up, no blade play, good fit and finish, and nice quality.
So, I would never own one of the cheaper SOG's made in Taiwan or China in AUS-8 or lower steel.
Simply because I hate the blade play and how a couple of them would fire open on their own.
But as far as the Seki-made SOG's. Yes, I would own more. Though a lot of them seem over-priced for what you get as far as materials. Handle materials specifically.

H&K Ally is another knife I will never own again. I've had 2 and they've both been so off center they rub the frame and have ridiculous blade play.
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This has been my experience also. Visionary II is excellent.
 
Cereal_killer said:
So I guess there is a whole family of knives I'll never own again- CRKT M16/M14 series.
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Wow, I must've gotten lucky. This is the third time I've heard something like this. I bought my M16-13Z a LONG time ago, and everything functions perfectly. There's no side play or other common flaws, but it's not overly tight, its really smooth. I've used it as my EDC for as long as I've owned it.

Then again, I've been fortunate with all of my knives, I've never gotten a bad one, not even the flea market specials. :D
 
kershaw blur or any assisted opening knife for that matter. not my cup of tea.
the kershaw blur did feel solid though but that opening feature killed it for me.
 
Any cheap/lower end knife. I know that sounds snobby but when I look at a few of the cheaper knives I've purchased I realize that had I not bought those knives I could've bought one or two nice knives. Sure they are functional and would serve just fine, but I'm at a point where I appreciate a nicer blade. Don't get me wrong, by no means am I swimming in money (wish I was :)) but I've determined that it is more worth it to me to save up and get models that have nicer materials and fit/finish. If you can only afford one blade that is on the lower end (under $50 for me) I get it and don't have any problem with it, I'm sure it will serve you well. But if you can afford at least $50-$75 total in your knife collection, to me it would be worth it to have only one knife (ex: Spyderco Endura) than it would be to have multiple cheap knives.
 
my kershaw clash rusted up in 5 months....and I had taken care of it...barely saw any use .....maybe it was just the steel on that particular knife....also the O so sweet is kind of girly now that i own it for a while...will be selling both....
 
csisland said:
kershaw blur or any assisted opening knife for that matter. not my cup of tea.
the kershaw blur did feel solid though but that opening feature killed it for me.
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They can easily be de-assisted.
 
imbryan715 said:
ANYTHING FROM BENCHMADE!!!!

i have sent every single knife i owned back to benchmade at least twice.

benchmade 527: broken omega springs 3 different times

benchmade 5000: broken omega spring and broken auto spring

benchmade griptilian: broken omega springs 2 different times.

benchmade 710: broken omega spring, had to send it in twice because they sent it back with a broken omega spring.


im not kidding. i sent the knife to them with a note showing the problem. they simply sharpened it and sent it back with a broken lock. how does a knife company do that?

needless to say i sold every single benchmade i owned. the worst part about it is they have probably 10 or 15 different models i would love to own but i will never buy a product from them again.
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Unbelievable! What a horrid luck, sorry to hear.

Here's a prioritized list, starting with 'most definitely never' to 'probably not':

1. Cold Steel, Gerber - never, ever.

2. Anything from China/Taiwan, if I can help it.

3. SOG

4. Assisted folders

5. Folders with pinned construction. I'd never buy anything that folds but can't be disassembled. It's beyond me as to why such feature is chosen for a folding knife in the first place.

6. Recurved blades.

7. Folders with closed backs. I really appreciate the open back of PM2 and have recently installed posts (aka stand-offs) on my beloved BM 710 and on a no-less-liked Kershaw 1745 after getting rid of those abominable cheap black plastic spacers. I wish both BM and KAI would stop placing these cheapening ugly things on any of their knives. Here's a link for the posts http://www.knifemaking.com/product-p/so301.htm

8. Lock-backs. I generally dislike any knife that can't be closed one-handed, and this type of lock creates awkwardness. Do I use both of my hands, do I close the blade by folding it against something? No good.

9. Small (under 4") fixed blades. No point.

10. Hollow grind blades. Slicers, yes, but the very geometry frequently allows for a very thin, weak tip. Case in point - the aforementioned Kershaw 1745. Oh how I wish the blade of this otherwise great knife was FFG!
 
apsheron said:
Unbelievable! What a horrid luck, sorry to hear.

Here's a prioritized list, starting with 'most definitely never' to 'probably not':

1. Cold Steel, Gerber - never, ever.

2. Anything from China/Taiwan, if I can help it.

3. SOG

4. Assisted folders

5. Folders with pinned construction. I'd never buy anything that folds but can't be disassembled. It's beyond me as to why such feature is chosen for a folding knife in the first place.

6. Recurved blades.

7. Folders with closed backs. I really appreciate the open back of PM2 and have recently installed posts (aka stand-offs) on my beloved BM 710 and on a no-less-liked Kershaw 1745 after getting rid of those abominable cheap black plastic spacers. I wish both BM and KAI would stop placing these cheapening ugly things on any of their knives. Here's a link for the posts http://www.knifemaking.com/product-p/so301.htm

8. Lock-backs. I generally dislike any knife that can't be closed one-handed, and this type of lock creates awkwardness. Do I use both of my hands, do I close the blade by folding it against something? No good.

9. Small (under 4") fixed blades. No point.

10. Hollow grind blades. Slicers, yes, but the very geometry frequently allows for a very thin, weak tip. Case in point - the aforementioned Kershaw 1745. Oh how I wish the blade of this otherwise great knife was FFG!
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no cold steel?:p
 
imbryan715 said:
ANYTHING FROM BENCHMADE!!!!

i have sent every single knife i owned back to benchmade at least twice.

benchmade 527: broken omega springs 3 different times

benchmade 5000: broken omega spring and broken auto spring

benchmade griptilian: broken omega springs 2 different times.

benchmade 710: broken omega spring, had to send it in twice because they sent it back with a broken omega spring.


im not kidding. i sent the knife to them with a note showing the problem. they simply sharpened it and sent it back with a broken lock. how does a knife company do that?

needless to say i sold every single benchmade i owned. the worst part about it is they have probably 10 or 15 different models i would love to own but i will never buy a product from them again.
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are you serious? so you sent them a knife with a broken lock and they sent it back still broken? i don't get it. it's warrantied right?
 
M21 with aluminum handles and auto lawks system doesnt have any play, just be careful to make sure the bevel is even and the grind is good. honestly I have one and I like it more and if give the opportunity would hard use it more than the cold steel AK-47 i own, and that is a knife I always feel ready to hard use

Cereal_killer said:
Not a specific knife or even a brand but I will never buy another zytel handled knife. I've felt that way for years now and it extended to FRN as well but after finally giving in and trying out spyderco's with FRN I changed my mind about it.

I've had zytel break and splinter, I've accidentally set in on hot stuff and melted it makig sharp points I grab the next time I use it, I've just been overall dissapointed with knives using it as a handle material.



Dude I had the EXACT problem with the exact knife, I had both my original M16-10KZ and the factory replacement go bad that way, on the first one the auto-lawks went bad at the same time. I too liked the drifter after needing a replacement for the replacement M16, it is a much nicer knife, I carried mine for a year and never had a problem. If you don't want to pay the $30 for the CRKT all it is is a rebadged Sanrenmu 707 (and those have several more options than the 4 CRKT models)

So I guess there is a whole family of knives I'll never own again- CRKT M16/M14 series.
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Never again any flippers, assisted openings, auto knives, one handers, or pocket clips. To each their own.
 
No CRKT...Why do their liner locks need a back up lock....poor quality.
No SOG folders. Blade play city and stripped out handles.
No Cold Steel. A 3mm set screw holding in the Tomahawk head...Come on.
Maybe no more autos. I've amassed a collection and the coil springs have broke on over 80% in a 4-7 year period of normal use. Benchmades and others that use Torx screw are ok but the newer Microtechs I just traded or sold off because of the funky Tri-wing screws.

This leads me to OTF's. Especially Microtech. Too delicate for my tastes and after getting my dream knife of the Troodon and having it break right when I got it, and dealing with MT warranty service....forget it.:barf:
 
Ive tried knives from about every company and decided sometime ago i wont by anything unless its a Kershaw/ZT......But i do try and stay away from the China made Kershaw products, thats was til the Thermite came out
 
Microtech doc flipper.. Terrible fit and finish, grind bevels are way off, the swedge is way off, doesn't flip at all, hard to open and close. Basically it's a sorry excuse for such an expensive production knife..
 
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