Large Fixed Blade?

I definitely think a fighting bowie pattern would be top notch ... I just don't want to see a Randall #1 ... it is definitely one of my fave patterns, but there are too many existing options. There are not as many existing options for a great fighting bowie of the Bagwell style.

I'd still prefer a Hossom collaboration with one of his non-recurved fighters. That's a guaranteed big-splash.
 
Joe Talmadge said:
I definitely think a fighting bowie pattern would be top notch ... I just don't want to see a Randall #1 ... it is definitely one of my fave patterns, but there are too many existing options. There are not as many existing options for a great fighting bowie of the Bagwell style.

I'd still prefer a Hossom collaboration with one of his non-recurved fighters. That's a guaranteed big-splash.
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If you want a Bowie design, but not one that has been copied to death, try this one, at about halfway down the page:
http://www.thealamofilm.com/bowie_knife.shtml
It is the picture of the knife claimed to have been made by James Black. I speak not to any of the claims made for its history but for its design as a fighting Bowie. Note the quillons curving down and inwards in order to catch an opponent's blade. Note also the point on a straight line with the centerline of the hilt making for a better thrust. What you cannot see in that small picture is that there is file work along the spine of the blade in order to snag an opponent's edge, supposedly more effectively than the brass strip so commonly seen nowadays.

Were Spyderco to work its magic upon that design, it would have a true competitor for all of the other Bowies out there in my opinion.
 
Joe Talmadge said:
There are not as many existing options for a great fighting bowie of the Bagwell style.
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I don't quite get Joe's intent, here.
I know he likes the general Bagwell design.
So do I, especially the lessened belly and maximized point.
Perhaps Joe means the Bagwell style kind of locks in the design.
I like Bagwell's style.

In order of preference, I like the fixed-double-edge Chinook, first; then the Spyderco-Pattern 1, as a very close second; and last, and definitely least, the Spyderco Edge Up/Down Bowie.

That said, I'd like to see Spyderco make all three knives.
I wouldn't mind paying a premium for what might amount to a limited run.
It gets too expensive for me at around $300.
Beyond that, and I start thinking of a custom knife by a custom maker.
Still, I think Spyderco's mass-produced knives have better quality, in steel, grind and design, than most of the custom productions; at least, any that I could afford.
 
Ed Ricketts said:
I wouldn't mind seeing spydercos take on the classic dagger, or a "daggeroid"...maybe a "persian inspired daggeroid" about 1 1/2 or 1 3/4 edged rather than full double edged.
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What an interesting mind-picture that creates.
A more flowing Chinook (hard to improve on the Chinook, though), with a sharpened swedge.
I really like swedges that taper into existence, rather than begin abruptly as a full grind.
With a sharpened-swedge Chinook-Persian "daggeroid," the swedge could begin near the hilt as a taper, and only become a sharpened edge for the last half as it approached the tip.
All smooth curves and transitions rather than choppy grinds that suddenly begin and end.
This would lend itself to an almost sharpened swedge, which the end user could then sharpen himself, or have sharpened by a professional, without making Spyderco the manufacturer of a double-edged knife.

edgetrip said:
A spydy version of the pattern 1...and the option of 2/3 of one edge to be spyder edged...
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Gerber made a double-edged dagger during the Vietnam era that had a wasp-waisted blade with double-edged serrations at the root of the blade.
 
About the wasp waisted double edge dagger blade; ROTON USA is now making a very high quality one of their own. I still say that Spyderco has always led the pack and not followed it. For those who think it has all been done before, check out some of the designs by Pirela, Snody, Blackwood, and Steve Ryan. Knives are works of art, and there is NO limit to what can be done. Oh yeah, also check out the knives created by Richard Derespina. If it were up to me, I'd tap Pirela or Derespina to design a Spydie MBC fixed blade. Just my opinion.
 
I love -- love -- Pirela's stuff. But Spyderco has always been about functionality with few bells & whistles. And Pirela's stuff is usually a gorgeous work of art with a ton of unnecessary angles, but which is a knife. It can have clean lines and be sexy and perform well all at the same time.
 
How about the Bob Lum fixed blade tanto with a larger blade than the original version done by Spyderco. You could do one with a 5.5"-6" like Bob's field grade tanto. 3/16" ATS-34, 154CM, or BG-42 steel.
 
Spectre said:
My god, Ken. You LIKE those!? :eek:

John
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Some of them are quite nice. Others...not so much. It's just a matter of opinion, and there are some varied opinions around here;)
 
Spectre said:
You LIKE those!?
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The more I look the less I like them.
I now recognize a number of them as Emersons, which means a chisel grind.
Ick.
Something about them really appealed to me the first glance through.
I can see why Spectre questions me, now.
Mercy. :)
I fall back on the Chinook as my favorite.
 
How about a large SWICK? 5 AND 1/2 or 6 inch blade, add a Spanish notch, G10 scales, a multi-position sheath, blade steel S30V or H-1 and I'll take two.

With the forward finger hole it would be the perfect chute knife.
 
redneckone said:
How about a large SWICK? 5 AND 1/2 or 6 inch blade, add a Spanish notch, G10 scales, a multi-position sheath, blade steel S30V or H-1 and I'll take two.

With the forward finger hole it would be the perfect chute knife.
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I mentioned something similar on the Spyderco home forum, but I think I was the only one who wanted something like that.

Not very conducive to MBC though, in my opinion. Grip positions are somewhat limited.
 
I would rather see a cross between a FB04 (ergonomic handle with finger choil) and a 6" Chinook II type of blade. Well, at least in my imagination it looks pretty good :D
 
The large SWICK still gets my vote! MBC grip options? My small SWICK works well in forward and reverse grip. In a high stress situation [real knife fight] hands sweat, they may have blood on them, causing the knife handle to be very slippery, and stress tremors may happen. The forward hole helps with blade retention if you are faced with the real thing. My small SWICK cuts and penetrates exceptionally well. I would love to see what it would do in a large size. Also, the weight could be kept down and it would be carried more often because it was more comfortable. Lets hear it for the SWICK/MAX!
I am loaded with bowies, tantos, & daggers, so am not interested in any more.
 
Hey Joe,

Last time I asked Hossom, he said he was working with some other companies.

sal
 
I'm really liking the idea of a Spyderco UUK!! That would be pretty cool, considering Hossom isnt avaible and the Randall Model 1 has already been sufficiently worked over.
 
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