LARGE folder?

Dialex,
I made my post and then went to read the other post, and it seems we think alike. :) I know that prototype is sitting around some where at the Spyderco factory. :)
If not the Shabaria, then the Chinese Folder.


Blades
 
The native chief, as discussed in previous threads. Where do we sign up? Thanks, Sal!
 
How about putting a drop-point blade in the Chinook handle? Sounds good to me.

A four inch blade is about as long as I want in a folder. Longer than that I would go fixed blade.
 
Personally, I think Spyderco has such a diverse range of great projects on the table that I'd like to see those before a mega-folder. Don't want to dilute the wine.

Anyway, people like the Vaquero Grande because it's big and inexpensive, and has a really unusual blade shape. That's one road to go down - something big that wouldn't really work in a smaller blade. I'd like to see some spydie innovation here.

The Cuda Maxx, etc. appeal because they are built tough, and meet the maximum length limit for certain places (Texas probably being the biggest market). I think the Native Chief would be excellent for this style of knife. Only problem there is that the blade looks very dagger-like and menacing. Which some would like, but I wouldn't want to defend it in court.

If I got one of these, I would most want to see a contoured handle, like the 3-D Native FRN handle, or at least G-10 with very good ergonomics. With a handle that big, I'd like to see both forward and rearward grip options, which is one of the appealing elements of the VG.
 
Sal:
The "ATR" is about the max size of a folder for me. A folder with a 6" blade and a 7" handle causes the problem of "how do I carry a 7" knife in my pocket"? However, I would rather have a Military/Camp knife that folds up to a 7" length stored in a sheath than a fixed blade with a sheath of over 11" hanging from my belt. A folder with a military style blade & 6" blade of D2 steel would work for me. "If Spyderco builds it I would purchase at least one."
Spyderco Collector #047
 
Compression lock.
Double steel liners.
G10 handle.
Flat ground blade.
...something like a folded FB Perrin. Same type of blade, grind, contoured handle that looks like something closer to the handle on the Gunting.

And while I´m on it, why not a Mid-Tech FB Perrin with a inch or two longer blade and a tad thicker spine (1-2 mm). G10 scales. Or why not molded Ti/Al handle with G10 scales? Just a thought or two.

EDIT: Forget the folder and go with the FB idea...

/Colinz
 
imo a folder with a blade larger then 4" is unecessary. If I wanted to get a 4"+ blade it would either be a kitchen knife, a camp knife, a combat knife, or a sword. All of those would be a fixed blade
 
The military is as big as I'd ever go in a folder. Fixed blade from then on up.
 
Ming65:

Agreed. Saw the Max at the Riddle. Got to play a few minutes with it, didn't like it.
Though very well made, my immediate thought was this much in a straight knife can be hidden as easily and accessed faster when carried in a good custom setup.

Military length is the limit for me as well. I think the Military is about optimum and carry it often.

Brownie
 
Brownie,

As usual, we're on the same page. The Military is about as good as it gets in a production folder. I deal with issues of portability, concealment, and fast access on a daily basis, and once you get much over 4" in blade length, a fixed blade is easier to carry, hide, and deploy than a folder. Handle length makes the mega folders inconvenient for most pocket carries, unless you have a dedicated pocket like on Carharts, and waistband carry, with flippers and other gadget projections, can get uncomfortable. A 5" fixed will generally be lighter than a 5" folder, and with the right set up, easier to carry when wearing real casual attire such as sweats or running shorts. An FB04 (Perrin Street Bowie) is easier to carry than a Cuda Max, and one of my favorites.
 
For myself the Military is big enough.If I need something bigger I will use a fixed blade.
 
Put a compression or lock back with a dent on the Military (or Military like knife). The Chinese folder with G10 and a compression or lockback with dent would be cool too.
 
Sal,
after reading your post, I thought about the C48 Wegner as a basis for a larger outdoor-type of folder. Something with the Wegner's very ergonomic handle and functional blade profile, but a different knife altogether.
Before you start to think this is a simple plead to bring back the Wegner, read on. :)
The blade could perhaps be even better at 4.50"-4.75" made from the newest improved steels like VG10 or S30V, and a slight redesign with the addition of serrations (for rope cutting) on its top spine would make it even more versatile?

As for a locking mechanism, quite naturally the compression lock will do the job.

And as for handle materials...let's stir the pot a bit...WOOD! :eek: Make the wood handles laminated, make them bold, checkered, texturized, grippy. It matters not so much which kind of wood, but make them wood!
Nobody in the industry had a clue what Spyderco was about to do next. Make those old world cutlery guys stand up and take notice of this tough new outdoor folder.

As for the name, the CXX Samaritan.
 
As a person with good sized paws, I'd be interested in such a thing cheifly for utilitarian purposes. To me an Endura is like a Delica due to the size of my fingers and thumb. Most have already said what I'd like to see: G10 handles, VG10, compression lock. I'd like to see something in the neighborhood of a about a 6 inch handle (maybe a little bit shorter so that most people would still like it) and a good 5 inches or more of cutting power. I'd like to see both serrated and plain versions. I wouldn't really care if it even had a pocket clip; I'd prefer a simple nylon belt sheath.

I normally use a fixed blade knife when I need more cutting power, but a big folder made by Spyderco sure sounds like something I could pony up some money for. :D
 
I don't have much interest in a folder that has a blade lager then 4".

However, 4 simple requests:

Reversible clip
Open spine for easy cleaning (compression, ball lock, even a liner lock)
VG10 or better steel

and last but not least

G10 HANDLES!

But I still seem to like the Cuda MaxX (Clip/Bowie blade) even though it has ti handles and it's the big "extra large" folder.
 
I had and idea for a big folder. But doing this would be a "joint venture" between Spyderco and TOPS(Mike Fuller). Its based on the TOPS CQT Magnum folder. This I call the "Urban Magnum" the difference is the Spyderhole and serrations in the clip point. And a Kydex rig to carry it in!!!!;)
 
Originally posted by Mike Sastre
Brownie,

As usual, we're on the same page. The Military is about as good as it gets in a production folder. I deal with issues of portability, concealment, and fast access on a daily basis, and once you get much over 4" in blade length, a fixed blade is easier to carry, hide, and deploy than a folder. Handle length makes the mega folders inconvenient for most pocket carries, unless you have a dedicated pocket like on Carharts, and waistband carry, with flippers and other gadget projections, can get uncomfortable. A 5" fixed will generally be lighter than a 5" folder, and with the right set up, easier to carry when wearing real casual attire such as sweats or running shorts. An FB04 (Perrin Street Bowie) is easier to carry than a Cuda Max, and one of my favorites.
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I envision the mega-Spyder (tarantula?) primarily for utility use and secondarily for self-defense (there are other Spyderco's that are designed specifically for self-defense purposes). For utility use, fast access on a daily basis is not an issue. I think a 4.5" to 5"
folder can be made manageable if configured with a tip-down setup (as is the Military). I agree that as a knife's blade is made longer it becomes difficult to deploy--especially if the knife is setup with its tip up and the opening hole or thumbstud deep down in the pocket out of reach from your thumb. I think the use of flippers or a wave-like device would be ill-advised since Spyderco should be able to pull it off with their time-tested hole. Please keep in mind that some of us live in jurisdictions where it is illegal to carry a 5" (or any size) fixed blade--especially in urban environs.

Edit: My response is not intended to discourage anti-large Spyderco issues. To be sure, such dialogue is desirable so that all issues can be addressed and, as a result, we end up with a better final product.
 
Originally posted by Mike Sastre
Handle length makes the mega folders inconvenient for most pocket carries, unless you have a dedicated pocket like on Carharts,
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I guess experiences differ. :) I've carried a Maxx or an Aftermath in my pocket everyday for almost two years now. The length fits just fine in all of my pants. The width does occasionally make it harder to reach my keys and such, but I've gotten used to it. And I have plenty or shorter knives, including the Lil Temperance and the Salsa, that make it harder to get to things in my pocket past them.

Unless your pockets are actually too short knife, I think the biggest pocket carry issue is width followed by thickness. Length is generally the least important.

--Bob Q
 
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