LARGE folder?

I'd still go with the Compression Lock. I have a regular Native, and the strong closing tension of the lockback combined with the small SpydieHole makes it very difficult for me to open it. I keep slipping off the hole.

And I LOOOOOOVE the compression lock. :)

You could even be really cool and make it SnG style... The left side being G10 with a skeletonized liner and the right side being a Ti integral slab... with a thin G10 inlay at strategic points. ;) Asymmetrical, eh!?

Also... in any Spydie, I'd love to see the oversized Millie hole combined with the Cobra Hood.

I still can't figure out out how to use the hole without having my thumbpad slip off, especially if it's wet or slippery.

-j
 
Hi Sal:

Funny you should ask. I'm trying to chose from among three of your current models (police LH carbon, ATR, Chinook), and a hybrid would do the trick. Here goes:

"Police" blade length and shape, "Chinook" blade thickness, integral compression lock on either a Ti or SS handle--drilled and tapped for up/down Rh/Lh carry, S30V steel.

On another note: The 'Fly is excellent--great work. I look forward to getting a pair once they're available.

Best regards
 
I like the idea of a extra large Native. The only reason I have not bought a regular version is because it is a bit small for my hand.

A Native with a 5" or 6" blade would be great.

I certainly hope that Spyderco makes a mega-folder. Cold steel has a few, Spyderco needs one too.
 
The more that I think about it, the more I want a 7" Spydie folder! I know that it's outrageous and a pipe dream, but that is why I want one. It's just so damned OUTRAGEOUS that it's a natural.

"Yes, yes, Nurse Ratched, I'll put on that white canvas jacket for you and go quietly back to my padded room now."
 
Hey, 4" does not a large folder make! :) 4" sized native sounds good regardless, but I don't think this is what Sal was after (at least, I hope not).

I'd like to see a large folder, and integral compression lock is IMO the only answer for the lock. And by large, I think I mean something larger than the usual 4". Police is already 4.25". I'd like to see something around 4.75"-5". There really aren't any great knives in this blade-size class, whereas by the time you reach 5.5", now you're going head-to-head with the Mad Maxx in an area that's already kind of low volume.

On more reminder: Make sure it works reverse grip edge-in please!

Joe
 
How about a 5.5" native with a compression lock and integral guards? (Yes I am hung up on that concept - maybe just a short run of those models? Please ;))

As for the compression lock - An integral offers a lot of strength, but for an MBC knife you need grip as well, slick metal handles just do not offer enough grip when coated with sweat, or blood. So perhaps thick liners with textured G-10.

I'd buy one in a heart-beat, be the first mega folder to seriously grab me - especially with the guards ;)
 
While all I want is the ~4" MBC Native, I can also envision a whole family of Natives from 3" to 4" to 5" and even 6" and over...:)

The largest ones could have the compression locks.

Then we'd all be happy. Not that I'm promising to buy one of each, mind you. Just the 4" MBC one for me for sure, and then maybe the 5" version.

I really like the concept of the proto "Native Chief" getting together with the original Chinook and having some stout babies that grow up a little bigger than their parents.

Whatever happens, I think an MBC Native of some sort should be in the cards. The handling qualities are just too nice to ignore. The G-10 slab construction with one or two steel liners would be a plus.

Now add the compression lock and hmmmm...

Karl
 
Thanks Coho!!
The larger Native looks good. I still don't like the small Native. :)



Blades
 
I still say RAD. It has to look cool all over, whether closed, or open, so that words like paddle won't be attached to it. Anyway, why just one large on.

I agree with the reverse grip coments, not as rare a way to hold a knife, as it is rare to find a folder that likes to be held this way The ones I have that hold well this way just tend to somewhat plain in shape. There are a bunch of folders that hold well reversed with a slight skew, but that's not good enough.

Cost is always a problem. On the other hand, Cold Steel has a fancy Ti and AUS 8a folder in the 150 range...
 
How about putting a drop-point blade, full flat-ground, into the Chinook handle? -+
The blade would be under 4 inches, but it would still be a pretty big, hefty knife.
 
How about putting a drop-point blade, full flat-ground, into the Chinook handle?
The blade would be under 4 inches, but it would still be a pretty big, hefty knife.

Edit: Oops. Double post.
 
Originally posted by satin
How about a 5.5" native with a compression lock and integral guards?
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That isn't exactly what I'm hoping for, but I would buy one in a second. :)

--Bob Q
 
i know i'm sick, but i can't help but think that an enduraesque handle with a choil added in and a 6 or 7 inch full serration hawkbill blade would bring me more joy than should be legal.
 
These are all great ideas, but in the interest of practicality I must say that a 5"-blade Endura pattern would be really cool, not to mention relatively easy to produce (I would imagine). Just a thought.:)
 
I'm getting a lot of good feedback, thanx. Maybe somebody can figure out a way to talley the thoughts?

sal
 
how about someone make a poll on the spyderco forums that everyone can vote on, and it can have broad choices like handle material, blade style etc
 
Sal –

Will not a lot of this depend on your intended market? Or are you also looking to this thread to help guide that decision? And when I think of “large” in knife terms, especially when thinking about folding knives, I think as much of function and performance, if not more so, than of actual size. So larger for me would be 4-1/2”, certainly not more than 5”.

Never having owned or seen a “Vaquero Grande” or a Cuda Maxx or Aftermath, I just looked at pictures of them on a few websites. While very “cool” knives, they just aren’t for me.

For years the ideal “large” folder for me has been the Military. Funny thing though – I never thought to myself “Gee I wish this came in a larger size... Smaller, yes, but larger no. (I wanted both).

Then I got a leaf blade Lil Temperance. My first reaction was “Wow!!!” My immediate second thought was “Gee, I wish this thing had a larger blade” And I realized that for me, that would be the ultimate, most useful knife as tool that I could own. Funny thing – talk to me now about a larger Military and I will be thinking of a Lil Temperance with a 4-1/2” blade.

I don’t know if the Lil Temperance would work with a 4-1/2 or 5’ (max) blade in terms of ergonomics as a practical carry knife. But if it would, it would be everything I can imagine wanting in a “large” folder.

Specifically – I want G-10 handles with liners – as solid of those on the Lil Temp. I want a compression lock, integral first choice, nested second. Hmmm…. Integral would probably mean Titanium handles though – and a lot more money. I want a leaf or wide spear point blade of quality steel – S30V or VG-10, preferably S30V. I want a blade length of not more than 5”

Oh, and did I say that I want it cheap? I didn’t, did I...? And I know it won’t be. The retail price of the Lil Temp is $199. I suppose you could produce the “Big” Temp in Golden for something less than the ATR, but probably not much less. Perhaps you could do it for less in Japan. I would buy either.

Just my nickel’s worth.

Chuck
 
ok here goes.

g10, micarta, rosewood, cocobolo, or stainless handles.

lockback.... but the lockback like the police, so the push disengage is near the middle of the handle, with boye dent of course.

3.75=4 1/4" blade, ats34, vg10, bg-42 steel, none of this s30v stuff.

blade:drop point, no fancy grinds, nice and flat. maybe like the military... but the tip cant be so thinned out, maybe more belly to it also.

an integral guard in the handle would be good too.
also, if i look at the military, the thumb ramp angle is pretty deep, maybe make it a little more gradual, with gimping of course, the spyderhole etc etc etc.

if the blade is shorter, plain edge, and maybge serrated, but if its larger, and only if larger a CE is ok.

so keeping it affordable....

no hugely high tec expensive steels....
handle materials arent cheap, but they arent out of this world either.

oh, and maybe manufacture the knife in japan.

thats what im thinkin so far.

edit: also, none of this heft..... we want semi lightweight, if not light weight.

and if a clip is included, we want something thats non reflective, so maybe a coated, or a bead blasted clip, and the knife should ride really low.

dont forget ambidextrous too... for our lefty amigos
 
Hi Chuck. No, we don't have an intended market. Mostly I'm fishin' to see if there is a market and what that market might be.

It has always been my belief that a 4" folder would be the largest practical size for a folding knife. There was also a time when I had no interests in Neck knives, but I ended up designing one. A mind is a good thing, an opened mind is best.

If there is enough interest to support a short run, it would be fun. I doubt that it would stay in the line past the short "Sprint-run".

Kinda like "just to be able to say, "we made one a' them once".

Naturally we would want to select or create a design that would have the best chance of supporting the run and derive good future collector value (which means it must be a good design).

A dedicated design specifically focused on a "very cool big knife" from the onset might permit us to create something functional taking the larger size into account in the early design studies. For example Carbon fiber can be strong and light, etc.

sal
 
Originally posted by aaron_simkovich
how about someone make a poll on the spyderco forums that everyone can vote on, and it can have broad choices like handle material, blade style etc
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Unfortunately only paying members can vote in polls. When I have some time I'll try to comb through the thread and summarize it for Sal, and/or we'll start a new thread (non-Poll) for voting.
 
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