Large inkosi just announced for Bladeshow in Instagram.

Here is a list of what the most common issues guys had with the 25, that are all addressed by the Inkosi:

-25 Pocket clip hot spot complaint - dealt with / Inkosi angled clip.
-25 Notched stop pin complaint - dealt with / Inkosi press fit stop pin.
-25 Pinched washer tab complaint - dealt with / Inkosi washers are flat and butted to stop pin.
-25 Inlay design complaint - dealt with / Inkosi has different proportions for inlay.

I really hope you are right!

My concern with the clip is, for me currently it fits perfectly. Angling it either does two things. Moves it to a spot that is not comfortable anymore, or doesn't change it enough to make it uncomfortable, while hopefully moving it JUST far enough that it makes it comfortable for more people, while not effecting as many people negatively. As in trying to fit a wider mean. I'm going to have to try one to find out. So far people have reported it feels much like a 25. What we need to do is find someone who said, Ahhh the 25 feels awful with the clip poking me but this Inkosi fits like a glove. So far having people say, Oh man, it feels just like a 25 isn't give us much info on it. If it fits the same, it's not really an improvement. So when you get one in hand, and it fits the same as a 25, I doubt you will say it's an improvement. You will probably cut it down too! Lets hope it's a better fit.

Stop pin, I agree making changes to the stop pin would be idea. Something user serviceable that doesn't need a specific placement. However, taking a hex head out and putting a pin in ruins the symmetry of the presentation side to me. So currently, when I service my 25 I simply leave the stop pin in place so it doesn't make any difference. Now I have an asymmetrical presentation side as the alternative, this is not an improvement as it degrades the symmetry of the knife. Chris went to a symmetrical fastener on the classic and I appreciated that. So to me, this solves one small problem I could easily avoid and makes another larger one I cannot. I would like to see them correct that. Sooo not an improvement. If we set the standard it's about function and not aesthetics, then I will go forward saying other things aside, the new pin is an improvement. In my mind, aesthetics are super important in a knife at this price point, and this is either going to go unnoticed by some, in which case they probably didn't notice the stop pin on the 25, or they will notice it and care to some degree, and I doubt I'm alone in saying that this negatively effects the symmetry of the presentation side.

Pinched washer complaint. I think the Inkosi definitely has a better washer system. No chance to bend the little tabs with user error, and less contamination. Making things idiot proof is a big part of the design process when it comes to servicing and I think they did it right here vs the stop pin. No downsides and improvements all around. I will definitely agree that the washers are a nice change, and I hope they make their way into the 21.

Finally the inlay. They did thin out the top one to make room for the bottom one to come out into the grove making it a tad longer. This may not be functionally different. Personally I didn't love the shape of the 25, but they work in hand. If there is no functional difference, then this is not an improvement as there is no objective way to quantify the subjective aesthetics of a personal choice. I really prefer symmetry when appropriate, so making the top inlay get really thin to let the bottom come slightly further, thus ruining the symmetry of the inlays as they are on the 25, is certainly a loss of aesthetics in my book. If I had to chose the inlay on the 25 vs the new Inkosi, I would take the 25 all day.

So in short, this model potentially improves on the 25 from a functional standpoint, if the clip works for more people than the 25 did. This is going to take time to see. If both models work for a person, it's going to come down to this:

Is getting the newer washers and stop pin worth the newer aesthetics.

In my book, No. The 25 is a better looking knife because if the symmetrical fasteners and inlay width. The functional improvements are so small they are not worth having an uglier knife.

In your book Yes, regardless the Inkosi is better for you because in you hand the clip either is as bad as the 25 or works better, and you prefer the newer aesthetics so this is better all around. For this, I am happy for you!

We both get what we want.

Personally, I think my aesthetic preferences are pretty close to Chris's. That I think is why so many things he has done have really worked for me. Personal preference here. I don't see much of Chris in this model. It felt like he went out of his way to make things symmetrical where possible, and that is lost here.
 
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I tweaked the clip on my 25 just enough that there's no pressure on the lock when the knife is open. On top of that I use the clip as an index to where my middle finger should be when opening the knife, so I don't have to actually look at the knife when opening it. The angled clip would have my fingers right on the clip, so I don't think that would be considered a big improvement in my case. I could always adapt, though.
 
I tweaked the clip on my 25 just enough that there's no pressure on the lock when the knife is open. On top of that I use the clip as an index to where my middle finger should be when opening the knife, so I don't have to actually look at the knife when opening it. The angled clip would have my fingers right on the clip, so I don't think that would be considered a big improvement in my case. I could always adapt, though.

I'm in a nearly identical position to you except I use my index in an indexed position as well. It also matters how wide the scale is. Will really have to see how it fits in hand.

If I move my 25 up into my hand to roughly replicate how the clip looks like it would fit, it hits the bone in the base of my finger. I suspect this is what happens to some 25 users.

On the bright side, these knives are made to last. Pick up a spare or two now and you will have enough to last you the rest of your life, and you will never have to worry about buying new ones in the future. Think of all that saved money!!
 
I'm in a nearly identical position to you except I use my index in an indexed position as well. It also matters how wide the scale is. Will really have to see how it fits in hand.

If I move my 25 up into my hand to roughly replicate how the clip looks like it would fit, it hits the bone in the base of my finger. I suspect this is what happens to some 25 users.

On the bright side, these knives are made to last. Pick up a spare or two now and you will have enough to last you the rest of your life, and you will never have to worry about buying new ones in the future. Think of all that saved money!!

This is what happened to me when I held the large inkosi. The small doesn't hit the same spot though. It's going to depend on hand size. The 25 clip sits in the crease between my fingers and the top of my palm and never bothered me.

That being said I love the new washers and it opens smoother because the lack of pressure on the lockbar. I also like the groove for the ceramic ball.
 
This is what happened to me when I held the large inkosi. The small doesn't hit the same spot though. It's going to depend on hand size. The 25 clip sits in the crease between my fingers and the top of my palm and never bothered me.

That being said I love the new washers and it opens smoother because the lack of pressure on the lockbar. I also like the groove for the ceramic ball.

Thanks for the input. That is what I figured. Ah well, as I said, no worries grabbing a couple 25's now. I already have 4 anyways. :)

Tweak your pocket clip so it's not applying pressure when the knife is open and you are good there.
 
Large Inoski is almost identical to the 25. The Chris Reeve representitive said that they are trying to differentiate the titanium lock sebenza 21 from the ceramic lock interface 25. Grind seemed slightly deeper on the hollow grind, but she said that was because they were using a new grinder.
 
Large Inoski is almost identical to the 25. The Chris Reeve representitive said that they are trying to differentiate the titanium lock sebenza 21 from the ceramic lock interface 25. Grind seemed slightly deeper on the hollow grind, but she said that was because they were using a new grinder.

Interesting to hear. I can't wait for someone to have both in hand and do a detailed comparison.
 
Does the large Inkosi also have the ball groove on the blade tang? I definitely consider that an improvement over the 25. Love my small Inkosi!

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I hope they change the shape of the inlays on the large Inkosi to further differentiate it from the 25 because all ll I'm really seeing is a 25 with angled pocket clip and more inlay options as of now. The shape of the inlays on the 25 is a big deterrent for me--much prefer the look of the 21 inlays! Also I have never really looked at the 25 as a "true sebenza" so now it's a lineup that includes the Sebenza, the Inkosi, the Mnandi, and the Umnumzaan....I like that!
 
I just saw the inlay bronzed aluminum from a few pages back, I like the shape of the new inlays. These are gonna be hot items for CRK... I'm glad I held out on the 25 because I'll be going all in for an inlay version of the large Inkosi in the distant future.
 
My random thoughts...

Perfectly happy with my 25. It has cut everything I've put it to, without issue. I'm never one to completely dismiss something before trying it, but I'm not a fan of the new angled clip aesthetics. Every CRK to date has had the clip run straight down the lockbar, and I've always liked the look and the way it fits in pocket (jeans). Having it angled just looks weird, but it's probably a matter of getting accustomed to the new look. Not a fan of the new wood inlay materials compared to the old. Again, they may grow on me. I've not had any issues with my 25's washers or any problems putting the stop pin back where it goes, but don't mind the changes other than the look of the plain stop pin on presentation side. Love the blade thickness on my 25. If I wanted a thinner and deeper hollow ground, I would have bought a 21. Never really liked the inlay pattern on the 25, which is why I bought a plain. Don't care much for the Inkosi presentation side either, and I'm curious to see how they did the lockbar side with the angled clip.

Either way, always glad to see new CRK models. And just because some people didn't like the 25, doesn't mean it won't be collectable down the road. If I'm not mistaken, it's the shortest production run of any CR folder, not to mention the 25th anniversary model, and quite possibly the last knife Chris himself designed. I'll happily hang on to mine.
 
My random thoughts...

Perfectly happy with my 25. It has cut everything I've put it to, without issue. I'm never one to completely dismiss something before trying it, but I'm not a fan of the new angled clip aesthetics. Every CRK to date has had the clip run straight down the lockbar, and I've always liked the look and the way it fits in pocket (jeans). Having it angled just looks weird, but it's probably a matter of getting accustomed to the new look. Not a fan of the new wood inlay materials compared to the old. Again, they may grow on me. I've not had any issues with my 25's washers or any problems putting the stop pin back where it goes, but don't mind the changes other than the look of the plain stop pin on presentation side. Love the blade thickness on my 25. If I wanted a thinner and deeper hollow ground, I would have bought a 21. Never really liked the inlay pattern on the 25, which is why I bought a plain. Don't care much for the Inkosi presentation side either, and I'm curious to see how they did the lockbar side with the angled clip.

Either way, always glad to see new CRK models. And just because some people didn't like the 25, doesn't mean it won't be collectable down the road. If I'm not mistaken, it's the shortest production run of any CR folder, not to mention the 25th anniversary model, and quite possibly the last knife Chris himself designed. I'll happily hang on to mine.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I wouldn't be surprised to see CRK go to a one piece inlay again. It's been heavily asked for and it looks like they are trying to create some differentiation from recent history.

Maybe we will see a one piece 21, or even a 1 piece annual Inkosi. I think that would look better than the 2 piece. It would also solve the issue of how to make the bottom inlay longer without wrecking the top inlay. One piece is sure to be popular.
 
Just to confirm: The Large Inkosi IS exactly the same size as the 25, just with a different clip angle, or are there other differences (slab width, etc.) with the Large Inkosi?
 
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