Learn to spot em! - Post 2004 Schrade Replica Knives

Amino, Schrade USA 125 OT show up regularly on ebay, some of which are unused. It's one of my favorite patterns and although i have a few of them, i've added a few more in the last couple of months because i just couldn't pass up the opportunity for a good deal for a great knife.
If you are looking at a used one, look closely at the blade tip. It is not uncommon for the very tip ( like only 1/16") to have been broken off and then re-shaped with a more abrupt upsweep. The original blade profile comes to a real point which is needed for it's intended use as a Folding Hunter.
The Son-of-a-Gun, 225OT which koldgold mentions might even be a better knife. A saw blade is more useful than you realize until you have a chance to carry and use the knife. Not all knife saw blades are created equal and the Schrade saw blade (also on the 97OT) is one of the very best. It saws cleanly and doesn't bind like most others do.
The 225OT was not produced in large numbers so is harder to find than the 125OT, but i have picked up two 225OT knives, unused and with their sheath, lately for again a very reasonable price. (less than the original and not taking inflation into account).
Long live Schrade Folding Hunters !
roland
 
Wow! Thanks for the info and the quick replies. I now know what to look for.

@ rprocter - although the 225OT is a nice knife, it wouldn't be suitable for my father. The 125OT is the one he used to own but lost on a camping trip. I know how much he loved that knife, so it makes perfect sense to give him that one for his 60th in August. Thanks for the suggestion though!

Anyone ever been to Newfoundland, Canada? Moose hunting capital of the world! George Bush Senior used to take secret flights here to fish and hunt!
 
Amino, i understand about your dad and that he would be most 'moved' by receiving a new 125OT from his son. But, while you are looking for the perfect 125OT, should you happen to see a 225OT, get it for yourself.
Dad & son dress out a record moose with their Schrade Folding Hunters !
send me an email (click on my user name for a link) if you want help with your search.
roland
 
Wow! Thanks for the info and the quick replies. I now know what to look for.

@ rprocter - although the 225OT is a nice knife, it wouldn't be suitable for my father. The 125OT is the one he used to own but lost on a camping trip. I know how much he loved that knife, so it makes perfect sense to give him that one for his 60th in August. Thanks for the suggestion though!

Anyone ever been to Newfoundland, Canada? Moose hunting capital of the world! George Bush Senior used to take secret flights here to fish and hunt!

Welcome! I've not been to NFLD but I lived with a woman from there for a few years and have worked with lots more folks from there. I can't speak to the place but Newfoundlanders are super friendly and fun folks.

My advice? Look at a bunch of pics of new USA 125OT and then hit eBay. You might get a new one for $30.00-$60.00 instead of $100-$150.

For example: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item3a74cabae4&item=251067546340&nma=true&pt=Collectible_Knives&rt=nc

The above knife had a couple age spots on blade and on sheath but was in new condition otherwise. These knives have carbon steel blades and will likely all get spots over time so I see this example as a good example of "newness" vs. price. If you've got until August you can find a deal for sure! I wouldn't pay full "I-need-it-right-NOW!" price.

Maybe the ultra-crisp box and paperwork matter to you too but you will pay for that paper.

I love my Schrade and I love a bargain. They are not mutually exclusive...

Good hunting!

p.s. Here's two more super complete and mint examples that went for $46.00 and $55.01

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item3f1741b23e&item=270973121086&nma=true&pt=Collectible_Knives&rt=nc&si=bL2tlS2qu48AMD5t%252FYpY342qf%252FI%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item3a7427ba12&item=251056863762&nma=true&pt=Collectible_Knives&rt=nc&si=bL2tlS2qu48AMD5t%252FYpY342qf%252FI%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
 
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Thankssomuch Thinkstoomuch ;)

Lots of good info!

I will keep my eye out for one of these auctions as I have a couple months

And yes, us Newfoundlander's always try to have a fun time! We will use any excuse to have a party!
 
Hi Thawk, nice to know your there to help with the information... Ken

No problem, I'm anal about accuracy. To a fault at times... The 124UH and 123OT (4" closed length vs 5 1/4" closed length on the 125OT or 125UH) are two of the coolest Schrade patterns and pretty hard to get a deal on. Sounds like Aminomethrix is in it for a dead ringer anyway. :D
 
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It is nice to see people like Dave and Hal helping a guy out. :thumbup: This forum really is a little community of sorts, complete with a lot of great guys, an occasional difficult person, and moi, the Village Idiot.
 
It is nice to see people like Dave and Hal helping a guy out. :thumbup: This forum really is a little community of sorts, complete with a lot of great guys, an occasional difficult person, and moi, the Village Idiot.

Thanks Calvin! It is a community of sorts and hardly the idiot!
 
Hey just wondering...

If I buy a knife from the USA and get it shipped to Canada, are they going to charge me a customs charge? I'm asking because I once bought a pool cue from the USA and at the post office I had to pay an extra $50 in order to take it home because customs flagged it as "coniferous wood." That one hurt... cause I payed just $80 for the cue... why can't our countries just get along?

Any info would be appreciated
 
Hey just wondering...

If I buy a knife from the USA and get it shipped to Canada, are they going to charge me a customs charge? I'm asking because I once bought a pool cue from the USA and at the post office I had to pay an extra $50 in order to take it home because customs flagged it as "coniferous wood." That one hurt... cause I payed just $80 for the cue... why can't our countries just get along?

Any info would be appreciated

I buy cross border quite often because most of the good Schrade is in the USA. The rule is "Gifts" of $60.00 and under won't be charged any fees. Maybe that's as good a price point as any to try and hit for a 125OT. Any more than $60.00 and you will have to pay 12% or so (GST and PST/HST) on the TOTAL amount as an extra fee plus a 5 or 6 buck handling charge to pay them to do what you never wanted them to do in the first place. A $61.00 knife might turn into $75.00 so try and stay $60.00 or under.

It's crappy that Canada Customs treats these old knives as taxable like this. I see it as no different than going to a garage sale. There should be no sales tax on second hand items. I usually have Customs Papers drawn up as "X number of pieces of Collectable Cutlery". I think they get inspected less often that way than "Knives" do but that may just be me being hopeful. Really it's likely pretty random. A 125OT is definitely legal to import to Canada.

When I can't get a US seller to ship to me directly I use a parcel forwarding service which is a little more complex but do-able.

Before doing any bidding, message the sellers of items that are "maybes" and ask them to quote you on shipping to Canada if they would be willing. Most will I find. Canada isn't North Korea but some are sticklers and just won't do it.

Be careful, the info and procedures I suggest can be highly addictive and your Dad's new/old Schrade might be the start of your thousand knife obsession/collection! These vintage knives are like peanuts. Bet ya can't buy just one.
 
I have a good knife friend that lives in St Johns NL, Bay Roberts to be exact. He would verify the Canadian Customs does tax old knives. I have shipped quite few knives to Canada/Newfoundland, and would recommend you request USPS Priority Mail from your seller. It would ship in a sturdy box, not in a padded envelope. It costs 12.95. Insurance is costly, and is hardly worth it in my opinion, on an item costing $50.00 or $60.00.

There is one particular Ebay seller to avoid. He cleans and buffs the daylights out of knives like this and sells them as "near mint". PM or email me and I'll divulge. :grumpy:
 
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Having a knife shipped to Canada from the USA often brings problems. While some knives arrive in a relatively timely manner, others are held at Canada Post Customs for inspection. They are about 3 weeks backlogged so the knife arrives after about 1 month. If they open the package to check the knife, they often fail to re-seal it properly or re-wrap the knife in whatevet padding the seller used. I have received empty packages because the knife fell out after being inspected and poorly re-seal. Worst is: there is NOTHING you can do about it. Canada Post Customs has no mechanism for appeal or re-imbursement.
After too many bad experiences, i got a P.O. box inside the P.O. building in Northport, WA. and drive down to pick up my knives and then declare them and pay the taxes as i re-enter Canada. It's a far superior system and USPS is FAST, often delivering in 48 hours.
If you buy a knife from the USA it MIGHT come through O.K., but be prepared for a potential long wait or even a loss.
roland
 
Having a knife shipped to Canada from the USA often brings problems. While some knives arrive in a relatively timely manner, others are held at Canada Post Customs for inspection. They are about 3 weeks backlogged so the knife arrives after about 1 month. If they open the package to check the knife, they often fail to re-seal it properly or re-wrap the knife in whatevet padding the seller used. I have received empty packages because the knife fell out after being inspected and poorly re-seal. Worst is: there is NOTHING you can do about it. Canada Post Customs has no mechanism for appeal or re-imbursement.
After too many bad experiences, i got a P.O. box inside the P.O. building in Northport, WA. and drive down to pick up my knives and then declare them and pay the taxes as i re-enter Canada. It's a far superior system and USPS is FAST, often delivering in 48 hours.
If you buy a knife from the USA it MIGHT come through O.K., but be prepared for a potential long wait or even a loss.
roland

Canada Post Customer Service pdf: http://www.canadapost.ca/tools/pg/manual/PGcustserv-e.asp#1378220

Quote: "2. Damaged Mail or Missing Contents

When a Customer wishes to make an enquiry about damaged mail or missing contents, the Customer should:
keep all wrappings, packaging materials, invoices or mailing receipts if available, and the damaged item, and call Canada Post Customer Service at 1.800.267.1177 and provide details of the damage or loss, including all postal service identification numbers (such as Registered Mail or Xpresspost number)."

Canada Post Claims (Create "Service Ticket"): https://www.canadapost.ca/cpo/mc/personal/support/helpcentre/default.jsf#ia0

I successfully navigated a $861.00 claim against Canada Post so I know their dispute process does work (though it's pretty slow). I had been storing a bunch of knives (1 box) and three boxes of books/photos at a friend's place in Toronto. I asked him to ship me the boxes and Canada Post screwed up and just left them on my doorstep when I was out. When I got home the smallest box (full of knives) was gone ie:stolen. I made a claim because the doorstep in the open is not a "safe drop" location. They paid me the $861.00 for my stolen knives quite readily.

I have purchased 101 items on ebay.com and they have all arrived so I guess my luck has been better. My last package took 4 days to clear Customs. The half-dozen before that they never inspected. I agree with Roland that IF Customs opens it they may well do a poor job of re-packing. I have had one or two knives get some minor scratches because of this.

I don't worry about having things shipped cross border but I've had no really bad experiences.

Roland, you should have asked for some advice/help when you received that empty box. I'm very confident I could have helped you get reimbursed. I'm tenacious when it comes to getting what's mine (and helping friends get what is theirs). Just for fun I phoned Canada Post and I was told that in your case you should have had seller file a claim with USPS and you should have filed a claim as well with Can Post. A process would then begin resulting in the USA seller being reimbursed (if insured only!). PayPal and eBay have their own “Buyer Protection” systems and opening a simultaneous claim through them would have been the way to go as well. The eBay "Buyer Protection Claim" should force the seller into making a USPS claim for you even if they are lazy or eBay will penalize them for the loss.

Generally, I recommend using insured USPS Priority when having packages shipped from the USA. It's fully tracked. Always request insurance if you want to sleep easy.

Aminomethylrx: I wouldn't worry too much about lost packages etc but Roland gave you good advice too. Knowing all potential risks is always a wise precaution.
 
Conversely, buying Canadian knives and hoping to get them at my house here in the U.S. can also be interesting. I have only bought two. One came right along and the other took a month. Another Canadian member who is on here all the time shared some very unhappy experiences with Canadian authorities a couple of years ago on this forum. He may chime in on that subject. Last month I bought an ebay knife from a good seller. It got stuck in Denver somewhere and I received it 17 days late (should have been one day from Denver). Out of nearly 700 mailorder transactions through ebay and hundreds more over several decades, those two experiences were the only "situations" I have ever had with the P.O., except for a lost envelope of photographs in 1959. BTW, I worked for the P.O. for 31 years and I did see a few "things." :eek: I have had at least one unpleasant experience with UPS, and I have seen signs in some business address storefront windows that say "NO UPS."
 
Dave you have been more successful than i. I haven't used Canada Post (i.e. Canadian address for receiving knives) for 5 years. I tried to make a claim with Canada Post Customs. It's a separate entity from Canada Post and 5 years ago they had no address even at which you could contact them. Parcels coming into Canada seem to be under different 'rules' than those being mailed within Canada.
roland
 
Still on the lookout guys. There are some nice ones out there now but the prices are steep. Hopefully one will be listed on ebay soon in great condition that won't break the bank.

Thanks for all your help
 
Still on the lookout guys. There are some nice ones out there now but the prices are steep. Hopefully one will be listed on ebay soon in great condition that won't break the bank.

Thanks for all your help

One more tip:

When searching for these knives make sure to search all possible misspellings of "Schrade" and also search both "125OT" (one twenty-five oh tee) and the incorrect "1250T" (one twenty-five zero tee). Botched listings see less traffic which equals better chance at a deal!
 
...and another tip if you only have the North American box ticked on the left of your searches for Schrade rather than Worldwide you could miss out on many rare Schrades...its an Ebay anomaly that a seller outside of USA can tick that he is happy to post to North America however a buyer search in USA will not show/reveal them without worldwide being ticked by the potential buyer, nor will it show them in the normal Schrade sale section without worldwide specifically ticked..how illogical is that!......so Ebay has advised me....Hoo Roo
 
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