Lemons: BK-16 Mod Discussion and Ideas : Completed Photo's

The Warrior said:
iwouldhurtafly, I liked that one so much, I wanted to see what it would look like more realistically.

Your rendering:

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My rendering of your idea:

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Okay, really thinking about doing this to my 16. But I only have one, so do I take the risk?
 
Alright, let's get SERIOUS here for a moment. Let's talk about the designs we have so far and what each design would be good for.
If I commit to a blade design and put in the hours of work to make it happen, I want it to at least be functional.

Now I'm someone who loves the organic shapes with nice curves and stuff but that one warrior made from iwouldhurtafly's rendition is looking promising. Lot's of you seem to like that styling as well. So tell me what you all think the advantages and disadvantages would be to a knife like that. What's that sucker gonna be good at?

Now let's talk about the modified wharnie design. I think that would be cool as well. So in your honest opinion, what are those blades good for? AND DON'T SAY PEELING APPLES!! If that's its only use, then I don't want one. But if it is a handy blade to have, then by all means we must go forth with the Wharnie!! But why? Tell me advantages and disadvantages please. I've never even held one so I don't know anything other than it looks cool.

I am working on a skinner design with some nice curves to satisfy my appetite, and will post some pics as soon as I get something descent. If you all have any input about skinners let us know.

I originally thought we'd make a pair of custom's but now I'm leaning more towards a threesome! lol :D

So please input your thoughts and ideas, I really like the group effort here and maybe if all goes well we can do a pass around for the Beckerheads when this is all over.
I will have the final say in the end designs but am open to all reasonable ideas and suggestions. I am putting my foot down now and saying the shiv is out. Looks cool, but I'm gonna overrule all your votes now and say NO!! haha
 
Might was well just use an old bandsaw blade...don't waste Becker steel on a shiv! :)
 
mrn8 said:
Might was well just use an old bandsaw blade...don't waste Becker steel on a shiv! :)
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My thoughts exactly!! At least someone is awake this morning!! Haha

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Heh. I made a shiv recently. Pretty thing, but useless.

The advantage of the wharn-like profile is the low tip. It's great for scoring, cutting on a surface, opening packages, etc. The advantage of the slightly curved version is that you can more easily use more of the blade, whereas the straight edge (as with the shiv) forces you to use the tip more than you might otherwise, concentrating wear on a tiny spot.

The dubfly version looks good and has many sensible elements. I like the rolled-forward handle where the guard used to be. That would be a neat thing to try. However I think the tip is still a bit too high to be practical outside of the kitchen, so I'd drop the tip a smidge (as in my drawing) to make it easier to reach (see above wharnie discussion). Also, I'd do that on the round one because the continuous curve is more pleasing to the eye and smoother to use. (though you can sharpen the flat-faced one into whatever you like - it's got the thin steel in the right place).
 
daizee said:
Heh. I made a shiv recently. Pretty thing, but useless.

The advantage of the wharn-like profile is the low tip. It's great for scoring, cutting on a surface, opening packages, etc. The advantage of the slightly curved version is that you can more easily use more of the blade, whereas the straight edge (as with the shiv) forces you to use the tip more than you might otherwise, concentrating wear on a tiny spot.

The dubfly version looks good and has many sensible elements. I like the rolled-forward handle where the guard used to be. That would be a neat thing to try. However I think the tip is still a bit too high to be practical outside of the kitchen, so I'd drop the tip a smidge (as in my drawing) to make it easier to reach (see above wharnie discussion). Also, I'd do that on the round one because the continuous curve is more pleasing to the eye and smoother to use. (though you can sharpen the flat-faced one into whatever you like - it's got the thin steel in the right place).
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Ok, So you vote for the tip to be brought down more towards the center of the blade, right? Makes sense to me. How bout where the taper starts? You like the dubfly or yours better? I've even drawn one out where it starts at the handle. So many options that will all work. And yes the modified handle guard could be interesting. Not sue how it would work till we tried it. I can add the choil thing but also bring the handle scales down just a bit as well. And yes I agree the curved blade is more useful that a straight line.

Thanks for your input!
 
Okay, one more time. How about a dual drop?

iwouldhurtafly's:

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Dual drop 1:

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Dual drop 2:

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Animation, showing the drops:

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I really like the dual drop 2 version.
 
Dexwithers said:
Ok, So you vote for the tip to be brought down more towards the center of the blade, right? Makes sense to me. How bout where the taper starts? You like the dubfly or yours better?
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well... naturally I prefer my blade profile. *blush*
I think the proportions are a bit more balanced, but frankly that's personal preference. I don't think going all the way back to the scales buys you anything.
 
The Warrior said:
Okay, one more time. How about a dual drop?

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Not bad at all Warrior. Kind where the Modified wharnie tip would be?

Can you maybe try one just like that but with the wharnie curve instead of the straight drops?

Thanks Warrior, your visuals are so Awesome!!
 
Dexwithers said:
Can you maybe try one just like that but with the wharnie curve instead of the straight drops?

Thanks Warrior, your visuals are so Awesome!!
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Okay, shops closed. Not perfect, but gives you the idea:


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daizee said:
well... naturally I prefer my blade profile. *blush*
I think the proportions are a bit more balanced, but frankly that's personal preference. I don't think going all the way back to the scales buys you anything.
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Yah, all the way back to the scales would just be kinda overkill, but just ahead of the jimping gives you a fair balance. Daizee used the snubby while I used the flat faced one and yes his design is definitely more balanced. The tip on a clip point should center about the mid or centerline, but when I did that with the flat faced one it really just looked funky. So I brought the swedge back to the jimping, basically where it wouldnt be in the way, and brought the tip high of center just a smidge, again to look better. As far as function goes the better balanced design is going to win 9/10 but again like Daizee said its going to break down to personal preference. I dont know what the difference would be on a 4" or so blade.

As far as what the knife would be good for, well the clipped design allows you a better tip/further out slice, while still keeping the area closest to the handle stable. Also it improves penetration. In a practical application (in theory) that clipped design should be conducive for game cleaning. It allows you to drag the knife edge up slicing lets say the belly, while reducing the risk of getting into the guts of the animal. It also allows material to "shed" off the blade earlier towards the end of the blade making the cutting more efficient. In theory its a very practical type design that just flat out looks good. This mod would probably also lighten up the blade a lot, which could make it a lot more "handy". Overall the profile would be thinner, so it would probably slice and dice very well. The mod is fairly dramatic, which could be a downside work wise, but again you would just have play around with it and find what you are comfortable with.
 
Thanks Warrior.

Awesome points you guys. Thank you all for your input. I think we can come up with a cool tweener version here. And yea that thing would have great penetration potential.

Would be a great knife in the kitchen which is where I use my knives most anyway.
 
Also, I'm thinking the back end of the handle should be rounded off to make it a little shorter. I think it should have permanent scales either stabilized wood or micarta and stainless or brass pins. I also have some ideas with using homemade micarta with no pins as well. Might try that on one of them. So many options.


I need to pick up some paint stripper so I can strip them this weekend. I don't think we should etch the logos? Might look funny if the spine is brought down on some of them?

Maybe after I'm done shaping the blades, I'll make just a BK&T logo for one side and name each one on the other.
One will be "The Lemonade" for sure. Maybe just etch an image of a lemon on it. haha

I think I might wanna try some of those stabilized corncobs or pinecones on one of these. Hell, maybe all of them. Could be really cool.

Your thoughts and Ideas?
 
Dexwithers said:
Thanks Warrior.

Awesome points you guys. Thank you all for your input. I think we can come up with a cool tweener version here. And yea that thing would have great penetration potential.

Would be a great knife in the kitchen which is where I use my knives most anyway.
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On the clip the only other thing to consider would be how you would want to swedge it. Either sharpened, unsharpened, crowned (rounded) or flat. I kinda like the crowned idea cause you really dont see it much anymore, but I think it gives you some good function while being classy. Although a flat clip would be a lot easier to pull off. It would again break down into your preference and how you see this knife after its all done, with classic traditional stylings, modern tactical look, or a mix of modern materials with a traditional flair.
 
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