Les Robertson would be proud part duh, Continuation from another thread

Stag is gods perfect handle material :)

Many miles on stag and wood handles

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I use antlers in all my decorating :)


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LOL. Those aren't scales. I can comprehend how that knife goes together and even make a drastically simpler version of it. ;)
canineforge said:
Looks easy to me. ;) :)

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Like the discussion here. Hope to get 6,000+ years out of this one. :eek:

- Joe
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Kevin Jones said:
Some seem to have problems with natural handle material and others don't. It probably depends where you live and how well you maintain your natural handles.
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Indeed Kevin, location and maintenance make a big difference, but may not still be enough. I have seen and have heard several factual accounts of damage in just shipping (think about the temperature and humidity extremes of air or ground shipping). Go figure right. It's the unpredictability of it that can be worry some, particularly if you live in a humid area subject to hurricanes and possible extended power outages ! I love wood, stag, and ivory, have some of each and no regrets, but if you are going to examine every seam on a perfectly fit knife with a razor eye, it's inherently risky.
 
knWWman1 said:
Indeed Kevin, location and maintenance make a big difference, but may not still be enough. I have seen and have heard several factual accounts of damage in just shipping (think about the temperature and humidity extremes of air or ground shipping). Go figure right. It's the unpredictability of it that can be worry some, particularly if you live in a humid area subject to hurricanes and possible extended power outages ! I love wood, stag, and ivory, have some of each and no regrets, but if you are going to examine every seam on a perfectly fit knife with a razor eye, it's inherently risky.
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Not to get off topic here but you are correct, I had an ivory handle that shrunk tremendously during shipping. Now I ship my knives in an oversize box and wrap the knife well in the large
1" bubble wrap. This not only protects against impact but acts as a very good insulation in maintaining a constant temperature and humidly for the knife.
 
I do not think materials play a huge role in the long run. For example look at Loveless knives which have proved to be a great investment. The big picture is key.

Will super trendy knives go up in value? Probably not...
...stand out and classic designs that are executed with the best of skill? I think they have a chance


I used to buy and sell jewelry for a living, the skill of the maker is almost everything when it comes to stones or precious metals. While knives are much different I still feel the final product is much more important than the raw materials.
 
Daniel Fairly Knives said:
I do not think materials play a huge role in the long run. For example look at Loveless knives which have proved to be a great investment. The big picture is key.
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Mr. Loveless favorite materials were green canvas micarta, stag and BG-42 stainless. I believe materials play a huge role in the long run. Inferior materials won't make it through the long run.
As for design the Loveless dropped hunter is probably the most well designed knife ever.
 
JBS TOOLMAKER said:
Mr. Loveless favorite materials were green canvas micarta, stag and BG-42 stainless. I believe materials play a huge role in the long run. Inferior materials won't make it through the long run.
As for design the Loveless dropped hunter is probably the most well designed knife ever.
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I agree, inferior materials will never stand the test of time. I'm just pointing out that micarta can go up in value just as much as anything else.
 
JBS TOOLMAKER said:
Mr. Loveless favorite materials were green canvas micarta, stag and BG-42 stainless. I believe materials play a huge role in the long run. Inferior materials won't make it through the long run.
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I stand to be corrected but I do not believe that Loveless ever made a single knife in BG-42. As for "Inferior materials" a trip to the Wallace Collection or the Royal Armouries will show you just how well "Inferior Materials" have survived wars and combat.

Tacticals have become very popular and it is the nature of the them that makers look for the strongest most inert materials available. However high end high quality traditional materials are still very much in demand.
 
MT Damascus said:
Bob definitely used BG-42.
Kris
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He probably did, but he mostly used 154CM and ATS-34...and that is what the shop is currently using as a standard blade steel. On a similar note about materials, black and green micarta are absolutely correct and accepted by Loveless collectors, but burgundy is not sought after. Going back to things making sense or not, I find burgundy micarta that is well aged to be perhaps the most interesting of the micarta colors, but "the market" does not agree.

Materials matter....it's a good practice for makers who make work that they want to hold as much value as possible to use the very best of the materials that they choose for those knives. Don't try to save a few dollars in order the make the knife less costly, most seasoned collectors can spot it at 10 feet.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Kohai999 said:
I find burgundy micarta that is well aged to be perhaps the most interesting of the micarta colors, but "the market" does not agree.
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not at this time, at any rate...but y'neva know what will be in demand in the future, n'est pas?
 
Kohai999 said:
He probably did, but he mostly used 154CM and ATS-34...and that is what the shop is currently using as a standard blade steel. On a similar note about materials, black and green micarta are absolutely correct and accepted by Loveless collectors, but burgundy is not sought after. Going back to things making sense or not, I find burgundy micarta that is well aged to be perhaps the most interesting of the micarta colors, but "the market" does not agree.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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Not sure I completely agree on this point, considering a few recent, unsolicited offers for this burgundy Hideout (that's not for sale).

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betzner said:
Not sure I completely agree on this point, considering a few recent, unsolicited offers for this burgundy Hideout (that's not for sale).
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That information was passed onto me by three different Loveless purveyors, Bob. I'd be happy if the information was incorrect.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Kohai999 said:
That information was passed onto me by three different Loveless purveyors, Bob. I'd be happy if the information was incorrect.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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I can see where it would absolutely be the case (ie, the micarta color) as it pertains to Loveless hunters. As a general rule, I can see where a dealer might say something like that, generalizing. And as I think about it, my favorite Loveless micarta has always been green. But there's no disputing the offers and the apparent interest in this piece in burgundy. Probably just one that's an exception, perhaps, who knows.
 
As a less informed Loveless admirer, wouldn't the rareness of the handle material merit special consideration ?

I go nutz over the green and black micarta on RWL's knives.

Doug
 
Now we are talking about one of my favorite handle materials :)

Where I said that Stag was gods perfect handle material ...... Micarta is mans
 
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