Let’s talk integrals!

Mo2 said:
It means it needs an explanation.
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I need your evidence, data, and so on. So please provide me with all detailed information, like which knives did you anodise under which environmental conditions (controlled temperature and so on) whith what equipment, supplies (like fluids) and callibrationreports so we can come to a honest conclusion. Now it can not be reproduced by our company and therefore i take your accusations very seriously because it harms our company. So unless you can provide me with this detailed reports i will ask you stop stop posting these unfouded accusations and recall them.

Our company invests a lot of money in controlled manufacturing and production. Processes like anodisation needs controlled environmental variables. We control & know exactly what result we get whith which controlled variables. Like making dough: using the same ingredients, when the humidity or the temperature differs, the result will differ. That's why i need all data from you. If not, quit with these accusations.

I will also ask the forum moderating team to review this topic.
 
Mo2 said:
Certification or not... It's not the same. It anos different at the same voltage as usa stuff, it's chalky and just not like it's, "equivalent". So post away, still doesn't change the facts that there ti is very different.
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I have noticed that the same titanium will anodize different colours depending on what the finish on the titanium is when it is anodized. For example i had a acid stonewashed Strider clip I anodized and the voltage that usually gives me a dark blue ano was coming out purpley bronze which I would normally use a lower voltage to get.

Chefget Chefget that pleroma is going to be my classy P’kal knife!
 
Mo2 said:
Link for reference
https://www.instagram.com/p/BldhyfCAMZT/

And another conversation here https://www.instagram.com/p/BlqQvvYgDfJ/
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The first link has no reference to grades of titanium being used at all.

The second link has Will Moon saying that he has no data to prove his claims that Chinese companies are using inferior titanium and it is just his opinion. He says multiple times that he has zero actual hard info or data.

Also he doesn’t mention WE knives even once.
 
Yeah, I agree with Henk, there were a few people making accusations, but it would only be fair to WE to provide some data. Just stating "This knife anodized blue with XX Volts and this knife anodized slightly different blue with XX Volts" is a little vague. So people with first hand experience should maybe clarify how they anodized. Henk said he'd provide their side of things which I appreciate.
 
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I thought this was about thread was about integral knives not titanium.
I have spoken to We about this and they assure me the ti they use is the real deal.
They have previously provided receipts for the M390 they use. They will prove up their ti as well. This blade is Damasteel. It has been questioned whether it is authentic as well. Anyone who knows about steel can clearly see what it is. Damasteel. It only comes from one place in the world.
So enough of the silly unfounded accusations.
My 702DS doesn't feel chaulky... lol.
I've never seen anyone achieve this glass like polish on ti before either. I dont know how they even pull this off, but it's awesome.
This is about integrals.
Integral knives are a challenge to execute because of their very nature, plus they are super cool looking and they feel different in a good way.
Back to integrals please... I would love to see more.
 
So it sounds like I'm wrong. I've seen countless remarks on this by people who do modifications. It would appear they are all doing it wrong and saying the wrong thing about there ti.

I'm glad we had the discussion and found out what the case really is because alot of these guys came to the same conclusion... The ti is not legit. And when I read there comments and see proof of such, that is my conclusion and need an explanation of why.

But It comes down to the prep work involved before anodizing. After talking to a professional who has shown me first hand proof.

Apparently they vapor hone their parts so if there's no prep work done before anodizing then they'll come out slightly different.

My sincerest apologies for causing drama based off of what most people have said and what I've read. Had I asked the right people there wouldn't have been any issues. But with so many people saying it I assumed it was right.

Why you have to prep it more on something that's been vapor honed vs most of the other knives on the market using usa grade 5 is beyond me. But the assumption is, is that it's not the same.
 
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Mo2 said:
So it sounds like I'm wrong. I've seen countless remarks on this by people who do modifications. It would appear they are all doing it wrong and saying the wrong thing about there ti.

I'm glad we had the discussion and found out what the case really is because alot of these guys came to the same conclusion... The ti is not legit. And when I read there comments and see proof of such, that is my conclusion and need an explanation of why.

But It comes down to the prep work involved before anodizing. After talking to a professional who has shown me first hand proof.

Apparently they vapor hone their parts so if there's no prep work done before anodizing then they'll come out slightly different.

My sincerest apologies for causing drama based off of what most people have said and what I've read. Had I asked the right people there wouldn't have been any issues. But with so many people saying it I assumed it was right.

Why you have to prep it more on something that's been vapor honed vs most of the other knives on the market using usa grade 5 is beyond me. But the assumption is, is that it's not the same.
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Good of you to admit you were wrong. It takes alot of courage to do that. I’m not being facetious at all, I really respect that.
 
Back on the topic of integrals...

There is a full thread in the Reate forums on the J.A.C.K. in case you haven't seen it.

Have we already posted a link to Doctor Frunkey's state of integrals address >

Good stuff!
 
wickettedge wickettedge a rundown...

Rassenti SNAFU Damascus
Rassenti SNAFU
Rassenti Druid
Descy Croc
Jerome Hovaere Clouds
Jerome Hovaere Deer Hunter
Hattori
Craig Brown Parabolic
Rassenti Alpha
Three Jerome Hovaeres
 
Lapedog Lapedog the knife was made by Alain Descy. Has a plunger that travels over the blade to lock it perfectly secure. Liked it so much I sent a piece of Eggerling Damascus off to France and Alain made this small bali...Alain passed in 2011 :(

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O Om28v don't know about my absolute favorite but the Hovaere Deer Hunter is an incredible carry! :)
 
I picked up all 4 varieties of The Future in m390, a burple We tiche, a Spyderco Nirvana, and have a flame ano cf Jack on preorder and will buy a second if I like it
 
Chefget said:
Lapedog Lapedog the knife was made by Alain Descy. Has a plunger that travels over the blade to lock it perfectly secure. Liked it so much I sent a piece of Eggerling Damascus off to France and Alain made this small bali...Alain passed in 2011 :(

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O Om28v don't know about my absolute favorite but the Hovaere Deer Hunter is an incredible carry! :)
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His work looks like the Max Knives balisongs. I assume he probably designed them because Max knives does work with Perrin, so they seem to collab with French designers.

Could I get some more pictures of that unique folder that show it better? Maybe a shot more from straight on to the side of it with the blade open? Is the body a folded over sheet of steel?

That sort of reminds me of the Crawford integral of which AG Russell is producing some versions. I think CRKT made some too.


Max Knives Descy
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Is this the knife pictured above? Awesome design. Is yours a custom?
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Crawford called these Interframes apparently.
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Wow! Really some nice beauties came along. Thanks for sharing guys!
Besides some Elijah designs, WE also will introduce more integrals and some will be really awesome.
 
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