LETS SEE THOSE MAGNIFICENT HARNESS JACKS

afishhunter said:
Spear point, I believe.
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waynorth said:
Ask anything you like !! I can't promise I know the answers, though!! :rolleyes:
For antiques, Clips and Spears run neck and neck!!:)
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My guess was clips (for antiques) so I was not far off. Thanks to both of you for answering :thumbsup:

waynorth waynorth I just got my own Rider today via the french connection 😉
It is an amazing piece, one of the best #86s we've seen so far IMO. It is definitely up there with our 2021 BF knife. Nicely done!
Thank you very much for making stuff like this available for us.

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Jacques Mi said:
waynorth waynorth I just got my own Rider today via the french connection 😉
It is an amazing piece, one of the best #86s we've seen so far IMO. It is definitely up there with our 2021 BF knife. Nicely done!
Thank you very much for making stuff like this available for us.
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Glad you enjoy it, Jacques! Thanks for the compliment!!!
 
Campbellclanman said:
The Rider is just that isn't it Peter- it is very much a successful release - Thank you for sharing and Charlie thank you for those thoughts that came into fruition!
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Absolutely, I’d love to one day add an ebony to my collection as well. I agree with fishin1635 fishin1635 that it has a very vintage look but I am absolutely thrilled with my smooth white bone. Hasn’t left my side since I received it.

Charlie, thank you!
 
I very much like picking up the older Harness Jack Knives, Their use that they have had during their lifetime of course is the outcome of condition, I certainly do not mind picking up a used condition HJ that is still in respectable condition - it tells a story, and that is crucial in an Old Knife.

What I hate seeing- and there is a huge amount of this happening now and that is people " Cleaning up" to almost "mint" 🤮condition the Knife- nothing more disappoints me to see a now ruined knife.
No - I am not saying this to disguise the fact that my next few posts are all older, used and some fairly worn Harness Jack Knives, I have Mint ones as well, but I guess I am trying to say is I appreciate seeing a used survivor that may display a type of Punch etc or gorgeous bone- perhaps a less known Maker / Importer.

Here is a very basic and simple Harness Jack Knife- composite Covers - to a high end collector it would mean nothing, I picked this up because of the very well known Tang Stamp, and a great example of the Mayer Punch.
Syracuse NY, Patented 1908 by Moritz Mayer, I always enjoy see in the Mayer punch appearing in many-a-Knife.
I think if I am to seriously collect Harness Jack knives, why not have something like this- the Knife where the customer doesn't want the knife that has all the Bling- he wants a knife to do the Job.
The Working man- whom the Harness Knife or the Teamster knife was originally made for .....

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Campbellclanman said:
Here is a very basic and simple Harness Jack Knife- composite Covers - to a high end collector it would mean nothing, I picked this up because of the very well known Tang Stamp, and a great example of the Mayer Punch.
Syracuse NY, Patented 1908 by Moritz Mayer, I always enjoy see in the Mayer punch appearing in many-a-Knife.
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That's a great addition to your HJ collection, Duncan!!! Made by Camillus, of course, with an historical punch from the days when punch patents were competitive with each other, and were important to a society which used, and valued Horses, and their associated tack!!🏇🤠
 
Here's another that I nabbed while it was going past my Door, not a name you see often, Lawton Cutlery.

When I got this Knife, I wanted a darned good look at it, both Levines and Goins have Lawton Cutlery at 1895. (1890 - 1895).
Lawtons were a merchant / Importers and Jobbers of Cutlery.

I saw the Harness Jack had the Alvord Punch, and the correct Patent number stamped at the back of the Punch.
The weird thing is- Alvord didn't apply for patenting until 1906 - so you'd go straight away that something isn't right - but is it?

The Knife is itself is correct though- both Blades match the Springs perfectly, the super fine pits ( so fine you would not normally call them pits) along the Springs- runs perfectly along the Spine of the Blades as well, from my research the Font of the Tang Stamps is correct, these Blades have not been replaced, the Knife itself looks good.

While I was doing some research on the Knife, I saw Charlie asking the same questions on one of his Harness Jack Knives that had a Camillus Spiral Punch with Lawton Tang Stamps here https://www.allaboutpocketknives.co...php?f=35&t=3732&hilit=Lawton+Cutlery&start=15

I think Charlie's Harness Jack Knife in the AAPK Thread looks good, as does this one.

So I grabbed it to check it out, I am glad I did, I think the knife is not a Frankenstein E-bay put together. The Alvord Punch being Empire, the Shield has been used by a few companies - so all in all I am happy with the Knife, I am just left with that nagging question of the time differences - Charlie Sir did you ever get any other answers with your Harness Jack knife by Lawton with the Camillus Spiral Punch?


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Campbellclanman said:
Here's another that I nabbed while it was going past my Door, not a name you see often, Lawton Cutlery.

When I got this Knife, I wanted a darned good look at it, both Levines and Goins have Lawton Cutlery at 1895. (1890 - 1895).
Lawtons were a merchant / Importers and Jobbers of Cutlery.

I saw the Harness Jack had the Alvord Punch, and the correct Patent number stamped at the back of the Punch.
The weird thing is- Alvord didn't apply for patenting until 1906 - so you'd go straight away that something isn't right - but is it?

The Knife is itself is correct though- both Blades match the Springs perfectly, the super fine pits ( so fine you would not normally call them pits) along the Springs- runs perfectly along the Spine of the Blades as well, from my research the Font of the Tang Stamps is correct, these Blades have not been replaced, the Knife itself looks good.

While I was doing some research on the Knife, I saw Charlie asking the same questions on one of his Harness Jack Knives that had a Camillus Spiral Punch with Lawton Tang Stamps here https://www.allaboutpocketknives.co...php?f=35&t=3732&hilit=Lawton+Cutlery&start=15

I think Charlie's Harness Jack Knife in the AAPK Thread looks good, as does this one.

So I grabbed it to check it out, I am glad I did, I think the knife is not a Frankenstein E-bay put together. The Alvord Punch being Empire, the Shield has been used by a few companies - so all in all I am happy with the Knife, I am just left with that nagging question of the time differences - Charlie Sir did you ever get any other answers with your Harness Jack knife by Lawton with the Camillus Spiral Punch?


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That knife sure looks like Empire's work, Duncan!! Nice HJ - definitely an Alvord punch!!
 
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